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 Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:12 am
US Bishops are claiming that the government requiring birth control coverage to its citizens is an attack on religious rights. Why don't we see this sort of argument coming from Catholic Bishops in other countries where birth control is provided by the government like in Europe and Canada? If it was actually an attack on religious freedom wouldn't we hear outcries from Catholics in other countries as well?
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:47 am
right because letting people have options is an attack on the rights of people in the US rolleyes
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:15 am
Americans and their protesting their rights...
Wait... if the birth control is optional... why the complaining? I do not get it.
What about that microchip thing that will be inserted under the skin and then can be used to access to credit card and s**t... for medical reasons...?
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:35 am
Qyp Americans and their protesting their rights... Wait... if the birth control is optional... why the complaining? I do not get it. What about that microchip thing that will be inserted under the skin and then can be used to access to credit card and s**t... for medical reasons...? I'm paranoid and I don't like to be tracked so I'm against the microchip stuff. The argument over here in the States that the US Bishops is making is the following; if you require employers to include birth control in insurance plans you are violating religious rights of the employer who would be ethically opposed to the use of birth control. It sounds nonsensical to me since you know, the employee doesn't have to use it if they themselves are opposed to it.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:16 am
rmcdra Qyp Americans and their protesting their rights... Wait... if the birth control is optional... why the complaining? I do not get it. What about that microchip thing that will be inserted under the skin and then can be used to access to credit card and s**t... for medical reasons...? I'm paranoid and I don't like to be tracked so I'm against the microchip stuff. The argument over here in the States that the US Bishops is making is the following; if you require employers to include birth control in insurance plans you are violating religious rights of the employer who would be ethically opposed to the use of birth control. It sounds nonsensical to me since you know, the employee doesn't have to use it if they themselves are opposed to it. Insurance is... optional.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:31 am
Some people just need something to complain about and instead of finding real issues that need to be changed they focus on little things that are exaggerated. I'm sure there is some psychological explanation, but I'm no psychologist.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:41 am
Qyp rmcdra Qyp Americans and their protesting their rights... Wait... if the birth control is optional... why the complaining? I do not get it. What about that microchip thing that will be inserted under the skin and then can be used to access to credit card and s**t... for medical reasons...? I'm paranoid and I don't like to be tracked so I'm against the microchip stuff. The argument over here in the States that the US Bishops is making is the following; if you require employers to include birth control in insurance plans you are violating religious rights of the employer who would be ethically opposed to the use of birth control. It sounds nonsensical to me since you know, the employee doesn't have to use it if they themselves are opposed to it. Insurance is... optional. Yeah right now in the States there is no government provide medical insurance unless you are recognized as disabled by the state or a government employee. Everyone here pretty much has purchase medical insurance on their own. Because of this people with pre-existing conditions have to pay more for medical insurance and it can be very expensive for those making minimum wage. Some companies offer medical insurance to their employees but most that do offer insurance, employees have to pay an amount out of their pay check in order to get it.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:53 pm
Could it be, that in the other countries, the freedom of religion isn't as important? Don't live there, so don't know. As far as it being an attack, I don't see it as one... but, I don't see the need of employers having to pay for women to have birth control. I mean if it's optional, then shouldn't it be the family, or at the very least come out of the lady's pocket or the insurance that is covering her? If that's the case then why not have them cover the cost of condoms and other things? They are optional as well.... instead of education.... eh, my rant is over
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:41 pm
glitterboypilot Could it be, that in the other countries, the freedom of religion isn't as important? Don't live there, so don't know. As far as it being an attack, I don't see it as one... but, I don't see the need of employers having to pay for women to have birth control. I mean if it's optional, then shouldn't it be the family, or at the very least come out of the lady's pocket or the insurance that is covering her? If that's the case then why not have them cover the cost of condoms and other things? They are optional as well.... instead of education.... eh, my rant is over It's not the employers themselves that are paying for the birth control but it's the insurance companies that the employers get that are providing it. Employers that provide insurance must have an insurance plan that provides birth control. This is what the objection is.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:25 pm
rmcdra glitterboypilot Could it be, that in the other countries, the freedom of religion isn't as important? Don't live there, so don't know. As far as it being an attack, I don't see it as one... but, I don't see the need of employers having to pay for women to have birth control. I mean if it's optional, then shouldn't it be the family, or at the very least come out of the lady's pocket or the insurance that is covering her? If that's the case then why not have them cover the cost of condoms and other things? They are optional as well.... instead of education.... eh, my rant is over It's not the employers themselves that are paying for the birth control but it's the insurance companies that the employers get that are providing it. Employers that provide insurance must have an insurance plan that provides birth control. This is what the objection is. and they will raise their prices of primeims(too tired to care about spelling or even if that is the right word) Thous everyone will be paying for sally's birth control drugs. the same drugs, that are an option and can cause women to become permanently sterile... I know 3 who are because of the drug category.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:19 pm
glitterboypilot rmcdra glitterboypilot Could it be, that in the other countries, the freedom of religion isn't as important? Don't live there, so don't know. As far as it being an attack, I don't see it as one... but, I don't see the need of employers having to pay for women to have birth control. I mean if it's optional, then shouldn't it be the family, or at the very least come out of the lady's pocket or the insurance that is covering her? If that's the case then why not have them cover the cost of condoms and other things? They are optional as well.... instead of education.... eh, my rant is over It's not the employers themselves that are paying for the birth control but it's the insurance companies that the employers get that are providing it. Employers that provide insurance must have an insurance plan that provides birth control. This is what the objection is. and they will raise their prices of primeims(too tired to care about spelling or even if that is the right word) Thous everyone will be paying for sally's birth control drugs. the same drugs, that are an option and can cause women to become permanently sterile... I know 3 who are because of the drug category. And the problem? Viagra is an optional drug and it's covered by insurance providers with no one giving it a second glance. It has the risk of giving people heart failure. Everyone has to pay for Jimmy to have a hard-on. Edit: I'm looking on webmd.com and I don't see anything about birth control pills causing sterility. Are these women sure it's actually caused by birth control pills? I would think to see something on WebMD about it since you know they cover most misc. topics concerning drugs and diseases.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:27 pm
rmcdra glitterboypilot rmcdra glitterboypilot Could it be, that in the other countries, the freedom of religion isn't as important? Don't live there, so don't know. As far as it being an attack, I don't see it as one... but, I don't see the need of employers having to pay for women to have birth control. I mean if it's optional, then shouldn't it be the family, or at the very least come out of the lady's pocket or the insurance that is covering her? If that's the case then why not have them cover the cost of condoms and other things? They are optional as well.... instead of education.... eh, my rant is over It's not the employers themselves that are paying for the birth control but it's the insurance companies that the employers get that are providing it. Employers that provide insurance must have an insurance plan that provides birth control. This is what the objection is. and they will raise their prices of primeims(too tired to care about spelling or even if that is the right word) Thous everyone will be paying for sally's birth control drugs. the same drugs, that are an option and can cause women to become permanently sterile... I know 3 who are because of the drug category. And the problem? Viagra is an optional drug and it's covered by insurance providers with no one giving it a second glance. It has the risk of giving people heart failure. Everyone has to pay for Jimmy to have a hard-on. See didn't know that, Viagra should be taken off.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:53 pm
glitterboypilot rmcdra glitterboypilot rmcdra glitterboypilot Could it be, that in the other countries, the freedom of religion isn't as important? Don't live there, so don't know. As far as it being an attack, I don't see it as one... but, I don't see the need of employers having to pay for women to have birth control. I mean if it's optional, then shouldn't it be the family, or at the very least come out of the lady's pocket or the insurance that is covering her? If that's the case then why not have them cover the cost of condoms and other things? They are optional as well.... instead of education.... eh, my rant is over It's not the employers themselves that are paying for the birth control but it's the insurance companies that the employers get that are providing it. Employers that provide insurance must have an insurance plan that provides birth control. This is what the objection is. and they will raise their prices of primeims(too tired to care about spelling or even if that is the right word) Thous everyone will be paying for sally's birth control drugs. the same drugs, that are an option and can cause women to become permanently sterile... I know 3 who are because of the drug category. And the problem? Viagra is an optional drug and it's covered by insurance providers with no one giving it a second glance. It has the risk of giving people heart failure. Everyone has to pay for Jimmy to have a hard-on. See didn't know that, Viagra should be taken off. Why? Are these not medical problems?
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:57 pm
rmcdra Edit: I'm looking on webmd.com and I don't see anything about birth control pills causing sterility. Are these women sure it's actually caused by birth control pills? I would think to see something on WebMD about it since you know they cover most misc. topics concerning drugs and diseases. They swear it as much as, one would swear the moon is white on most nights. Whether they are telling the truth, it is a side effect of taking two drugs, drugs and street drugs(I know one is a pothead for lack of a better word), a preexisting condition, or they are just lying. I don't know, I just know they swear that they can't now.
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:01 pm
rmcdra glitterboypilot rmcdra glitterboypilot rmcdra glitterboypilot Could it be, that in the other countries, the freedom of religion isn't as important? Don't live there, so don't know. As far as it being an attack, I don't see it as one... but, I don't see the need of employers having to pay for women to have birth control. I mean if it's optional, then shouldn't it be the family, or at the very least come out of the lady's pocket or the insurance that is covering her? If that's the case then why not have them cover the cost of condoms and other things? They are optional as well.... instead of education.... eh, my rant is over It's not the employers themselves that are paying for the birth control but it's the insurance companies that the employers get that are providing it. Employers that provide insurance must have an insurance plan that provides birth control. This is what the objection is. and they will raise their prices of primeims(too tired to care about spelling or even if that is the right word) Thous everyone will be paying for sally's birth control drugs. the same drugs, that are an option and can cause women to become permanently sterile... I know 3 who are because of the drug category. And the problem? Viagra is an optional drug and it's covered by insurance providers with no one giving it a second glance. It has the risk of giving people heart failure. Everyone has to pay for Jimmy to have a hard-on. See didn't know that, Viagra should be taken off. Why? Are these not medical problems? Yes they are medical conditions, Not one, everyone should have to be paying for. Just so, Jack and Jill can get it on... I don't want to come of, mad or something, I really don't mind helping people. It is just, why should someone else pay for there fun, when their is so much more that that could be directed at, that are Actually life savers.
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