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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 7:06 pm
Ok. If someone died, but they were recuscitated (like someone gave them CPR), would their life being brought back be considered another birth and therefore make a second natal chart necessary, or would the event just be recorded in the original natal chart?
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:39 am
hmmm... this is interesting.. because I've had a classmate who told us he came back to life.. not just once.. but three times.. so your question made me think..
But I don't think a second natal chart would be necessary. I don't consider being brought back is another birth. Just record the event in the original natal chart of that person. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:11 pm
What are we considering to be death here? True death isn't something you come back from. Defining what makes a body dead is tricky business though.
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:05 pm
Obscurus What are we considering to be death here? True death isn't something you come back from. Defining what makes a body dead is tricky business though. Death like...your heart stops beating, your lungs stop breathing, the doctors consider you dead and start shocking you with paddles, you are walking through a strange tunnel with a light at the end of it,....that kind of death. Or, really, even a ressurection type death. I think that's what I was really wondering about anyway. Like if Jesus looked at his chart before the crucifixion, would he see: .....something horrible happens to me, then I die,.....but wait....my chart goes on. That's strange. or would he see: ...something horrible happens to me, then I die.... with nothing more afterwords. P.S. - I looked at your blog.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:30 am
Gandalf_the_Girl Obscurus What are we considering to be death here? True death isn't something you come back from. Defining what makes a body dead is tricky business though. Death like...your heart stops beating, your lungs stop breathing, the doctors consider you dead and start shocking you with paddles, you are walking through a strange tunnel with a light at the end of it,....that kind of death. Or, really, even a ressurection type death. I think that's what I was really wondering about anyway. Like if Jesus looked at his chart before the crucifixion, would he see: .....something horrible happens to me, then I die,.....but wait....my chart goes on. That's strange. or would he see: ...something horrible happens to me, then I die.... with nothing more afterwords. P.S. - I looked at your blog. Quote: Death like...your heart stops beating, your lungs stop breathing, the doctors consider you dead and start shocking you with paddles Ummm... Defibrillators are used to stop your heart as a means to reset your hearts natural rhythm. Not used to start your heart back up. Wiki can tell you about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DefibrillationThat's all I really have to add to this convo.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:50 am
broken_bleeding_angel Gandalf_the_Girl Obscurus What are we considering to be death here? True death isn't something you come back from. Defining what makes a body dead is tricky business though. Death like...your heart stops beating, your lungs stop breathing, the doctors consider you dead and start shocking you with paddles, you are walking through a strange tunnel with a light at the end of it,....that kind of death. Or, really, even a ressurection type death. I think that's what I was really wondering about anyway. Like if Jesus looked at his chart before the crucifixion, would he see: .....something horrible happens to me, then I die,.....but wait....my chart goes on. That's strange. or would he see: ...something horrible happens to me, then I die.... with nothing more afterwords. P.S. - I looked at your blog. Quote: Death like...your heart stops beating, your lungs stop breathing, the doctors consider you dead and start shocking you with paddles Ummm... Defibrillators are used to stop your heart as a means to reset your hearts natural rhythm. Not used to start your heart back up. Wiki can tell you about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DefibrillationThat's all I really have to add to this convo. Oh. ....I'm just going by movies. They always show a patient flatline, then use the paddles on them. Guess that must be one of those Hollywood inaccuracies. Thanks for the info.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:55 am
Gandalf_the_Girl broken_bleeding_angel Gandalf_the_Girl Obscurus What are we considering to be death here? True death isn't something you come back from. Defining what makes a body dead is tricky business though. Death like...your heart stops beating, your lungs stop breathing, the doctors consider you dead and start shocking you with paddles, you are walking through a strange tunnel with a light at the end of it,....that kind of death. Or, really, even a ressurection type death. I think that's what I was really wondering about anyway. Like if Jesus looked at his chart before the crucifixion, would he see: .....something horrible happens to me, then I die,.....but wait....my chart goes on. That's strange. or would he see: ...something horrible happens to me, then I die.... with nothing more afterwords. P.S. - I looked at your blog. Quote: Death like...your heart stops beating, your lungs stop breathing, the doctors consider you dead and start shocking you with paddles Ummm... Defibrillators are used to stop your heart as a means to reset your hearts natural rhythm. Not used to start your heart back up. Wiki can tell you about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DefibrillationThat's all I really have to add to this convo. Oh. ....I'm just going by movies. They always show a patient flatline, then use the paddles on them. Guess that must be one of those Hollywood inaccuracies. Thanks for the info. Yeah Hollywood is one of the worst places to to collect any information, unless it pertains to movies and actors. XD No problem.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:05 pm
Gandalf_the_Girl Obscurus What are we considering to be death here? True death isn't something you come back from. Defining what makes a body dead is tricky business though. Death like...your heart stops beating, your lungs stop breathing, the doctors consider you dead and start shocking you with paddles, you are walking through a strange tunnel with a light at the end of it,....that kind of death. Or, really, even a ressurection type death. I think that's what I was really wondering about anyway. Like if Jesus looked at his chart before the crucifixion, would he see: .....something horrible happens to me, then I die,.....but wait....my chart goes on. That's strange. or would he see: ...something horrible happens to me, then I die.... with nothing more afterwords. P.S. - I looked at your blog. If they're trying to resuscitate you then you're not really dead yet. Defining death is tricky in medical terms. Are they dead when there's no more brain activity? Or when the heart stops? Both? See what I'm getting at? How much do you know about astrology? A natal chart isn't really a timeline of your life laid out like a road map. Also, thanks for checking out my blog. xd
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