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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:32 am


I dont know what language to use when communicating with the gods and godesses..

Almost everything i read on the subject is in english.. so if i use my own language i have to translate stuff..
Is it common to use the language that the gods you talk to would understand the best, like some old nordic language for asatru?

How do you do it?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:48 am


Is it for a specific prayer, spell or ritual? Or is it for personal communication?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:59 am


WildBrain
I dont know what language to use when communicating with the gods and godesses..

Almost everything i read on the subject is in english.. so if i use my own language i have to translate stuff..
Is it common to use the language that the gods you talk to would understand the best, like some old nordic language for asatru?

How do you do it?


Personally, I speak English. It's my native language. I don't speak any other languages fluently. And the Gods communicate with me just fine.

It's a nice thought, to communicate with the Gods in their native tongues, but...if you don't speak it fluently, you may end up saying something incorrectly, and causing offense. Also, you may end up giving them the expectation that you comprehend them, and will continue to speak that language to them. You may find them getting annoyed that you can't understand them completely in their native language, and it may have been better if you hadn't started at all.

Which isn't to say you shouldn't engage those languages foreign to you in some way. Just make sure you learn them as completely as you can - ritual phrases, songs, prayers, praises, etc. - and that you know what they mean, and aren't just parroting things you don't understand at them.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:47 pm


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Which isn't to say you shouldn't engage those languages foreign to you in some way. Just make sure you learn them as completely as you can - ritual phrases, songs, prayers, praises, etc. - and that you know what they mean, and aren't just parroting things you don't understand at them.

That's very true! There are things in Hoodoo that you should learn, even if their not in your primary language, which was why I was thinking maybe similar situations would be in other religions.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:11 am


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Is it for a specific prayer, spell or ritual? Or is it for personal communication?


It is just for first contact so far..
The "this is me, who are you" kind of thing i guess.. smile
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:17 am


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I dont know what language to use when communicating with the gods and godesses..

Almost everything i read on the subject is in english.. so if i use my own language i have to translate stuff..
Is it common to use the language that the gods you talk to would understand the best, like some old nordic language for asatru?

How do you do it?


Personally, I speak English. It's my native language. I don't speak any other languages fluently. And the Gods communicate with me just fine.

It's a nice thought, to communicate with the Gods in their native tongues, but...if you don't speak it fluently, you may end up saying something incorrectly, and causing offense. Also, you may end up giving them the expectation that you comprehend them, and will continue to speak that language to them. You may find them getting annoyed that you can't understand them completely in their native language, and it may have been better if you hadn't started at all.

Which isn't to say you shouldn't engage those languages foreign to you in some way. Just make sure you learn them as completely as you can - ritual phrases, songs, prayers, praises, etc. - and that you know what they mean, and aren't just parroting things you don't understand at them.



One of my most fluent languages then, good idea.
This leads me in to my other question. Who should i try and contact first?
Since i come from sweden, tor and odin has always been known to me.. but i am not sure that is what i seek.. I´m having problem locating other "patheons(?)" to get an overview..

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:16 am


I'd do more research on any deity before trying to contact them. Get to know what they like and don't like so when you do contact them you don't end up offending them.

And I'm a bit confused by what you mean when you say "I´m having problem locating other "patheons(?)" to get an overview.."
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:31 am


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I'd do more research on any deity before trying to contact them. Get to know what they like and don't like so when you do contact them you don't end up offending them.

And I'm a bit confused by what you mean when you say "I´m having problem locating other "patheons(?)" to get an overview.."


ah, yes. I mean i dont know what dietys there is out there.. so many i haven´t heard of.
I have problem locating information about them.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:38 am


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ah, yes. I mean i dont know what dietys there is out there.. so many i haven´t heard of.
I have problem locating information about them.
That's what I thought but I wasn't sure.

Theoi is a great place to learn about the Greek deities.
I usually Google and cross reference or check sources when I'm looking up stuff on Kemetic deities.

There's a lot of work that goes into learning more about the deities.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:03 am


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ah, yes. I mean i dont know what dietys there is out there.. so many i haven´t heard of.
I have problem locating information about them.
That's what I thought but I wasn't sure.

Theoi is a great place to learn about the Greek deities.
I usually Google and cross reference or check sources when I'm looking up stuff on Kemetic deities.

There's a lot of work that goes into learning more about the deities.



Thank you! I will look it up!

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:19 am


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This leads me in to my other question. Who should i try and contact first?
Since i come from sweden, tor and odin has always been known to me.. but i am not sure that is what i seek.. I´m having problem locating other "patheons(?)" to get an overview..


There's many different pantheons out there:
Norse, Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Irish, Welsh, Scottish, Manx, Gaulish, Slavic, Hellenic (Greek), Roman, Etruscan, Kemetic (Egyptian), Caananite, Babylonian, Sumerian...and that's just the mainly-European lot! North America, South America, and Asia all have many different pantheons of their own.

Pantheon.Org can be helpful. Take the time to browse, and see where your interests or attractions lie.

Ok... if you're just looking to make an introduction, keeping things simple is the best way.

1) Research. Look up the deities you're interested in. Read their lore. Learn about the culture they came from, and how they were worshipped by that culture. Some deities may be tied to a specific geographic location, or a specific people. Some cultures are not open to outsiders. Doing a bit of reading first will help you learn what's what. You don't have to go overboard, but a little research goes a long way.

2) When you decide you're ready to introduce yourself, make yourself a little space. Choose a place that's not going to be disturbed. If it's appropriate, you can do this outside - so long as you won't be interrupted wherever you choose. Make sure the environment is appropriate to the deity or pantheon - cold places are not as welcoming to deities of warm climates, and vice-versa. Choose a time of day that is appropriate for the gods you're trying to contact.

3) Make a simple offering of something the deity/pantheon might like. It's like inviting a friend over for tea or coffee - you're showing them your hospitality. You might have a glass of a beverage they'd like, a candle of an appropriate colour, or other things they like: flowers, leaves, incense, minerals, feathers, shells, a vessel of clean water, a living plant, etc. Don't stress too much over right or wrong: at this point, there's some leeway because it's just an introduction.

4) Introduce yourself! Light whatever needs lighting, and say hi. It doesn't have to be formal. Tell them who you are, and that you're seeking, just starting out, and wanted to meet them/get to know them. Just speak honestly, and plainly. And you don't have to speak out loud - you can do it silently.

5) Be patient. You may not receive a response right then - or at all. Don't panic. People often contact many different deities, or pantheons, before they find the one that's right for them. Some Gods will just not be interested in you, and that's ok. It takes time.

6) Be aware. Deities don't always speak in words. Sometimes they come in dreams. Sometimes they give us signs to follow in nature, or in our everyday lives. They want to see us do some thinking, figure things out for ourselves. Keep an eye out for unusual happenings that might relate to what you're seeking.

At the same time, try not to be paranoid, or over-enthusiastic. Not everything is a sign - sometimes a bird is just a bird. It's easy to get swept up in new feelings and energy from this sort of discovery process - the experiences are new and exciting! - but try to keep it balanced with rational thought and logic. Take note of the things you see or experience, and see if they lead you onwards, or are just something neat but coincidental.

7) Don't get hung up in ancestry, or nationality. It's great if we connect with the spirituality and religion of our ancestors, or our current homelands. But it's equally as likely that you may be called to serve the Gods of other peoples or places - you may be missing out if you constrain yourself to only certain things from the start.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:05 pm


I communicate with deities through my own Native language. If I learn a prayer in the native language of those deities I would use that prayer (so long as I clearly understood what the prayer was for and what the words mean). I think that for most deities using the language you are native to in order to speak is a natural thing. After all it's your primary language of communication isn't it?

Sometimes if I don't have the "right words" I may use symbols in my communication. Symbols are a powerful language and is one that applies to most any language. Granted every culture has their own views for the symbols, but symbols are considered to be the language of the collective unconscious.

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