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Romantic Conversationalist
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:23 pm
How do you determine what a book means, or what a book is about? Take To Kill A Mockingbird, as an example. The teacher has a question on the test that says "what is the book about? Who is the mockingbird?" What do you answer? You read the Cliff's Notes (just to get more insight and something else to read) and they gave you one answer. But your mom thinks it's about something else. Your older friend took this class last year and told you what the teacher thinks the meaning is. But maybe you see several meanings and mockingbirds in the book, and you think it is a matter of perspective.
Ever been in a situation like that?
I used to hate it when teachers would ask me what a book or piece of art was about. It could have so many meanings. And who determines which meaning is the true meaning? The author? The critic? The teacher? The educated English major who lives next door?
Then, one day, an art teacher told me something cool. She said that she once stood by one of her own sculptures as a woman told her how much she agreed with the meaning. Only, it wasn't the meaning my teacher had placed upon it. But she didn't say anything to the woman, because her interpretation was no less valid than anyone else's. She told the class that the artist doesn't get to decide what the definitive meaning of a piece is, but that every interpretation is as true as the artists'. Because that is the nature of art. I believe this, and I think the same thing applies to writing. What do you think?
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:51 pm
I have to say, I really agree with the last statment. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:13 am
I agree, absolutely. mad heart
Although I do hate it when people attempt to push you into agreeing with only one possible 'meaning' to a piece, as there is never only ONE valid meaning. Uhm. >____>;
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Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:05 am
You raise an interesting point, Fairgrass. It reminds me of when I first started getting interested in Clive Barker's works. I found something where he had been asked what the proper pronounciation of names in his novel Imajica were and he said that it was up to the reader to say it how they felt it should be said. I think that this can also be applied to analyzing what books can be about, or even other artistic mediums like movies.
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:08 am
There's resons why they say that, having a teacher for a mom I asked her that and its so that they know that you acculy read the book for one thing and that you can make a conclusion to what is in the book due to your personal experences and other stuff, she kept talking but then I just left because my computer was calling me.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:04 pm
I have to believe that like beauty, meaning, is in the eye of the beholder. What means something to you, may mean something completely different to someone else. The author, in the beginning, may not have meant to give a piece significant meaning at all. Perhaps they were just trying to tell a good story, but in some cases there is a specific concept they are trying to get across.
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:23 pm
Since the meaning of something is based on your interpretation of someinthg, then I have to say that I agree...or I read the post wrong and this means nothing sweatdrop I have been messing around with college stuff and cant really think ninja
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:42 pm
As what has already been highlighted, interpretations of text is based entirely on the individual and no one else. Although many people might find a same conclusion, there are alwards others that will point out different meaning and underlying themes. I would argue that people's interpretations are linked by their own experiances as, as we all learn differently in life through events that are only linked to ourselves, it would susbsequently cause us to view material in our own personal light. Should this own personal view be radically different from another's, the interpretation of a text/event will also be different.
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:25 am
I try to believe that every piece of art has multiple meanings, but I find such a thing dificult when the discussion turns to my own work. Perhaps I need to be more open-minded but a part of me will always believe that only one person will ever know what a piece of art was meant to say and that is the one who made it.
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:33 pm
I have difficulty assigning meanings to pieces of art. I don't think there is a meaning for them. I think the observer takes away and impression, idea, or lesson that to them is an individual relation to the object being observed.
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 3:15 am
I comepletly agree, when they ask what it is about, do they mean what you think it is about, what the teacher syays it is about what your friends say it is about...?
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 8:14 am
Agreed. 3nodding As an artist, I have a lot of pictures that could have so much meaning to it. I usually grab from my personal experiences, so I get flustered and keep rejecting guesses as to their true meaning from my friends. I don't want to explain something that's dear to me.
The same is with this book we read in class, called "Wish you Well" and the simple question was, "Who was the main protagonist" and I believed there was more than one; each of which are the main characters to the story which contribute symbiotically to the plot. I still got it correct on the test. o.o
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Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:24 pm
I agree as well, and while I know that teachers have to put stuff like that on tests to be sure we've read the book, I hate how they make it multiple choice. Reading tests should be free response in my opinion, but I guess that's just too hard for teachers...
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:07 pm
hmm, I understand, but you can't always believe that art in it's entirety is naive to it's own purpose and meaning... much of classic poetry is defined and has one meaning, one purpose, yet modern poetry, or poetry of young minds has a tendency to be too vague or too figurative to have enough substance for one single interpretation... so I do not believe you should attempt to identify what art is, to then figure out how it's meaning is found, because no one has agreed on it's boundaries and qualities since art was first conceived of....so just accept that some art allows you to explore new meanings within yourself, but also know that you must not be so care-free when analyzing certain pieces of art that exist for one single purpose, because if I write a book called the plague.... in which the story details the bubonic plague, and I am talking about world war 2 and the plague fascade is just an extended metaphor for it, if you say the meaning of the story lies within the aspects of the plague in and of itself, then you are wrong, but if you realize why I wrote the piece and the relationship between the plague I wrote about and world war 2, then you are discovering the true meaning behind my piece
i hope you understand...
The Plague is an actual novel...sorry if I bent everything just to create an argument
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:53 pm
I would just like to comment on how important, I feel as an artist and writer, it is that people really understand that art can be black and white. Black for one person and white for the next. That is, in itself, what art really is. The root of independant interpretation. You can learn a lot about people and yourself by listening and responding to meanings gleaned from art.
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