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 Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:24 am
I wasn't introduced to phantom until i was a lot older, but I've adored the movie "Beauty and the Beast" for as long as I can remember, and in my early teens I fell in love with the movie "Rigoletto" (not to be confused with the opera). So my question is this: Do other phantom fans find that their phantom obsession stems from an over-all love for men who are deformed/ugly/insane/mean/in desperate need of a woman's love?
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:56 am
I tend to like that sort of genre...
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:13 am
Samara_Lin I wasn't introduced to phantom until i was a lot older, but I've adored the movie "Beauty and the Beast" for as long as I can remember, and in my early teens I fell in love with the movie "Rigoletto" (not to be confused with the opera). So my question is this: Do other phantom fans find that their phantom obsession stems from an over-all love for men who are deformed/ugly/insane/mean/in desperate need of a woman's love?
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:09 pm
You gotta admit angst and love go together well. XD
But actually I just randomly picked up the book way back when. But I can see where Beauty and the Beast and maybe even The Huncheback of Notre Dame would come into play for introduction.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 8:03 pm
...Yes.
I actually got into PotO before anything else with similar themes, but it has had a pretty profound effect on me.
For example, I came up with this story when I was twelve that has a subplot with certain PotO paralells. I didn't realize it at that time, but it did. I assumed it was from other sources, but the basic inspiration was from what I didn't remember at the time, from PotO.
One day, when I was strugging to develop the story, my mom bought the Beauty and the Beast DVD, and I watched it. Something in it struck me, and in one very strange moment, I had the skeleton of my story and the names of some characters. I'd never been hit with so many ideas in such a short period. I didn't think it was possible. I didn't, at the time, realize how Beauty and the Beast was so similar to PotO, and why it had affected me that way.
But yeah, I was really affected by PotO, and it just kind of stuck with me. It instilled in me that spark that developed into a love of the villinized, deformed and generally ostracized guys in fiction. That love turned into my condition right now, a member of the guild, and an aspiring writer.
So, in short, yes, I do find that I have a general appreciation for stories with similar themes, and it seems to have made an impression on me. A very deep, lasting impression.
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:30 pm
Alexis makes her phandom sound pretty.
All I've got is "I found this book in middle school and I liked it." The story of my life. XD
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:35 pm
Utakan You gotta admit angst and love go together well. XD But actually I just randomly picked up the book way back when. But I can see where Beauty and the Beast and maybe even The Huncheback of Notre Dame would come into play for introduction.
So I blame the library for my problems xd
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:53 am
I like Beauty and the Beast as a kid, but mostly because of the pretty songs, not the angsty Beast and Beauty's wonderful compassion. Now that I'm older (aka: a phan. BTW: did you know we have a Wikipedia entry? Phantom Phans. CHeck it out) I like Beauty and the Beast because of its parallels to PotO. I think my opinions on any disfigured/desperate character I see now would be affected by my love for Erik and any parallels b/w them, not for the character himself.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:41 pm
*rushes over to Wikipedia*
Yes, I adore Beauty and the Beast, and I saw Rigoletto a year after I saw PotO while on a bus to NYC.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:52 pm
Fallen_Syrien I've always loved "Beauty and the Beast", mainly fro the song and dance, but now that I"m older I can see the beauty (No pun intended) in helping someone more disfigured than us. These stories just show us that love, no matter how deep, can save a soul from ultimate distruction. Here, here.
My ideas and interests tend to lean more towards a psychological approach --
If you were to take a character who is disfigured in some way, then how differently would they act, compared to you or me? Erik was crazy and violent, but also shy and caring at the same time. The Beast was ashamed of himself, and pretended not to care. Darth Vader was corrupted, but ends up truly fighting his darker nature.
I guess that's why I'm going to study psychology.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:55 pm
Hannibal Lecter M.D. Fallen_Syrien I've always loved "Beauty and the Beast", mainly fro the song and dance, but now that I"m older I can see the beauty (No pun intended) in helping someone more disfigured than us. These stories just show us that love, no matter how deep, can save a soul from ultimate distruction. Here, here.
My ideas and interests tend to lean more towards a psychological approach --
If you were to take a character who is disfigured in some way, then how differently would they act, compared to you or me? Erik was crazy and violent, but also shy and caring at the same time. The Beast was ashamed of himself, and pretended not to care. Darth Vader was corrupted, but ends up truly fighting his darker nature.
I guess that's why I'm going to study psychology. Same here, I wanna be a Psych/Art Major. Also I am pathetically romantic and I LOVE dark, angsty love stories.
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:05 pm
BakaTulip Same here, I wanna be a Psych/Art Major. Also I am pathetically romantic and I LOVE dark, angsty love stories. I plan to go into psychiatry.
I have a fondness for unhappy endings -- as long as they're played right. They're just out of the ordinary.
And my dad always laughs at me because every weird-a** movie they watch, I happen to like. I guess I'm just an art-house, indie-film girl at heart.
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:02 pm
okay, here's another thought for you all : I've recently gotten into Furuba (aka Fruits Basket), and I seriously think Kyo has an Erik complex, and so do almost all of the Juunishi, in different ways. What's the general opinion?
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:33 pm
Uh...duh? I actually planned to write a crossover for the two, but someone beat me to it. It's be easy to cast PotO Furuba-style:
Christine: Tohru
Raoul: Yuki
Erik: Kyo
Carlotta: Kagura (or Akito)
Managers: The Mabudaichi trio (Yes, there are only two managaers, but for the sake of the analogy, give me a break)
Meg: Machi
That's as far as I'm going right now.
Furuba is kind of like PotO in the love-triangle, but with more angst exploded all over it (if that's even possible, 'cause Erik was pretty damn angsty.)
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:25 am
For whatever reason, I used to be scared of the Beast. I preferred...what was it...I forget. Then again, it could be because BatB was shoved in the back of our video collection.
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