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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:33 pm
I have an extreme dislike for the negative connotation of this word. It encourages the mindless following of rules and disallows the exploration of superior alternatives. Refusing to kiss somebody's a** is not a bad thing, and the way they use that word makes it sound like it is. And it irritates me.
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:51 am
It depends on the insubordination in question. There are some jobs where you just do as your told. Its not your job to question your superiors so just get on and do it. For example, if you're a shop assistant and your boss tells you to go move some stock to a totally ridiculous and idiotic place, you do it. Because when it comes back, it goes back to your boss for being a retard.
There are also jobs where you need to have some common sense and if your superior tells you to do something completely retarded you may be given a little leeway in whether you follow that or not.
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:32 am
From what I understand: There are no such job where you have to follow every idiotic order your superior give you. Or at least there's legal rights for the employees in Norway. If you don't agree with a decision: discuss it.
That said; if there's nothing productive to do in the workplace (for the time being), you may as well take on some useless minor projects 'till something comes up. At least for good measure, or to provide a good impression. This got nothing to do with being an a** licker, since it's probably better for you than lying 'round for hours with nothing to do.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:28 pm
Gakre From what I understand: There are no such job where you have to follow every idiotic order your superior give you. Or at least there's legal rights for the employees in Norway. If you don't agree with a decision: discuss it. That said; if there's nothing productive to do in the workplace (for the time being), you may as well take on some useless minor projects 'till something comes up. At least for good measure, or to provide a good impression. This got nothing to do with being an a** licker, since it's probably better for you than lying 'round for hours with nothing to do. I'd say the only job in America that requires you to always do as you're told by a superior is being enlisted in the military.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:47 am
Jedi Sasquatch Gakre From what I understand: There are no such job where you have to follow every idiotic order your superior give you. Or at least there's legal rights for the employees in Norway. If you don't agree with a decision: discuss it. That said; if there's nothing productive to do in the workplace (for the time being), you may as well take on some useless minor projects 'till something comes up. At least for good measure, or to provide a good impression. This got nothing to do with being an a** licker, since it's probably better for you than lying 'round for hours with nothing to do. I'd say the only job in America that requires you to always do as you're told by a superior is being enlisted in the military.
If things goes wrong or the order goes against certain regulations, both the superior and the guys following the order will have share the responsibility of the action(s).  There may be risks for for not complying (depending on the situation). However; saying "I was only following orders" has not been considered a valid excuse for nearly a century now.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:34 am
Gakre Jedi Sasquatch Gakre From what I understand: There are no such job where you have to follow every idiotic order your superior give you. Or at least there's legal rights for the employees in Norway. If you don't agree with a decision: discuss it. That said; if there's nothing productive to do in the workplace (for the time being), you may as well take on some useless minor projects 'till something comes up. At least for good measure, or to provide a good impression. This got nothing to do with being an a** licker, since it's probably better for you than lying 'round for hours with nothing to do. I'd say the only job in America that requires you to always do as you're told by a superior is being enlisted in the military.
If things goes wrong or the order goes against certain regulations, both the superior and the guys following the order will have share the responsibility of the action(s).  There may be risks for for not complying (depending on the situation). However; saying "I was only following orders" has not been considered a valid excuse for nearly a century now. In the American military, disobeying orders is considered a crime worthy of punishment no matter what those orders are. That's still how it works. It's horrible, but it's just how it goes.
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:52 am
Jedi Sasquatch Gakre Jedi Sasquatch Gakre From what I understand: There are no such job where you have to follow every idiotic order your superior give you. Or at least there's legal rights for the employees in Norway. If you don't agree with a decision: discuss it. That said; if there's nothing productive to do in the workplace (for the time being), you may as well take on some useless minor projects 'till something comes up. At least for good measure, or to provide a good impression. This got nothing to do with being an a** licker, since it's probably better for you than lying 'round for hours with nothing to do. I'd say the only job in America that requires you to always do as you're told by a superior is being enlisted in the military.
If things goes wrong or the order goes against certain regulations, both the superior and the guys following the order will have share the responsibility of the action(s).  There may be risks for for not complying (depending on the situation). However; saying "I was only following orders" has not been considered a valid excuse for nearly a century now. In the American military, disobeying orders is considered a crime worthy of punishment no matter what those orders are. That's still how it works. It's horrible, but it's just how it goes.
How are the regulations of breaking civil laws in the US army? I know a Norwegian solider would receive twice the punishment they're convicted. It would happen regardless of the crime, country he's jailed in or whether (or not) he was in service.
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