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 Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:36 pm
Note: Once we get more members, discussions will be easier, right now they will be slow, as will the roleplays. Sorry.
I practice the Black Arts, and am a Witch, not a Wiccan, but I started with the basics and the lighter, somewhat gray areas I call Wicca, so I suppose I am a former Wiccan. I finish my year and a day in April. I do not know everything, but I've studied hard and learned quite a bit. I will help you where I can, and answer the questions I know, or, if I don't know the answer, I am willing to look around to find out as much as I can on a subject to help.
If you are comfortable, ask questions here, and either myself or Hatter will answer as soon as possible. If it is more private or you feel uncomfortable with posting in public, you can always PM me.
Sincerely,
Po
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:36 pm
Is there actually a set in stone age limit for practicing magic?
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IsysChrystalineRavensBane Crew
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:52 pm
Age limit? As in, you can't be a witch until you turn 'blank' old? No.
There is supposed to be a set amount of time(the year and a day) before one can be considered a witch. Its the time before you're initiated as a witch. Initiation isn't necessary if you're a solitary witch, and not all witches go through a year and a day. But many prefer to, because its kinda their schooling, the year and a day is where you study the basics of the craft, get a good feel for what you like and where your strong points are, growing into the witch you will become, making sure witchcraft is really what you want. But witches spend their whole lives gathering knowledge about their craft, many write Books of Shadows(journal or diaries) about their growth as a witch, and them pass it on to their offspring, so that they know all the things their mothers(or fathers knew). Some families pass the craft on in the family, so some people are born witches, or raised witches, there is no age limit to it. I was a born witch, my father's whole family are witches, but I was not raised a witch, because my mother is Christian.
Sorry that was so long, but I hope it answered the question...
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:49 pm
Can you give me a simple defintion of Wicca that I can pass on to my less accepting friends when they ask me about my religion? I'm having some issues defining it.
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:04 pm
Talking2Myself2 Can you give me a simple defintion of Wicca that I can pass on to my less accepting friends when they ask me about my religion? I'm having some issues defining it. Wicca believes that "God" is not one entity, but two, the Mother and Father, the Lady and the Lord, the God and the Goddess. Wicca is absolutely different for every person, because it is quite literally an individual's religion. With the base moral beliefs, 'An it harm none, do as ye will.' meaning, do whatever makes you happy, as long as it does not harm another being in anyway, and the Three Fold Law is hugely important, Whatever energy you put out into the world, it will come back to you 'Three Fold'. If it is negative, so the negative reflects back on you times Three, but if you give good, positive energy, it too will come back to you times Three. Wicca is also very huge on asking permission and paying homage to the Earth and the Elements. I hope that helps.
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:38 pm
Po_BirdFlight With the base moral beliefs, 'An it harm none, do as ye will.' meaning, do whatever makes you happy, as long as it does not harm another being in anyway.
You cannot go without harming anything. Even the flames on a candle harm something.
Wicca is not an Earth based worship religion either, the Rede isn't Wiccan, and the 3-fold law isn't universally followed.
"There is nothing to fear when you have nothing to lose."
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:05 am
Calelith Po_BirdFlight With the base moral beliefs, 'An it harm none, do as ye will.' meaning, do whatever makes you happy, as long as it does not harm another being in anyway.
You cannot go without harming anything. Even the flames on a candle harm something.
Wicca is not an Earth based worship religion either, the Rede isn't Wiccan, and the 3-fold law isn't universally followed.
"There is nothing to fear when you have nothing to lose."
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:54 pm
Po_BirdFlight Actually, the Three Fold Law is widely followed(Widely, as in not everyone follows it), but as I said, it is an individual's religion, I was giving her the basics so that she can explain what the main, more widely practiced points of Wicca are. Not really no and regardless the 3-fold law that does exist within Wicca is related to something ritualistic and therefor not really something that can be applied to everything. That wasn't really the basics and is more akin to what's called Eclectic No-Paganism. Quote: And the let it harm none(Rede) is directed at any spells or rite you do, so that your good intentions are known. The Rede is advice, that's what the word Rede means. And even if the Rede is only directed at spells or rituals, you're still gonna have to burn a candle with will HARM the air around you. You cannot go without harming SOMETHING. Quote: It may not originate in Wiccan, but many follow its guidelines. No it doesn't. Quote: The Earth and the elements are important in everything a Wiccan does spiritually and magickally. Not they're not. Wicca is a fertility witchcult. Sex is an important factor is Wicca. Please, unless you're a Thelemite do not spell magic with a k. It's not needed outside of the context of that belief system. Quote: They aren't rules, they are guide lines to keep people from practicing harmful arts. Harmful acts are not necessarily bad. There is no White or Black magic either, it has no color. Wicca has rules, they're called the Ardanes and it's 161 rules for Wicca. Quote: How about you go look up some Wiccan books or Google it before you trounce around declaring things. Why not, instead of telling to go look up Wiccan books, list the books I should read? Quote: Every practicing Wiccan I've ever spoke to or been in a coven with believes in the Three Fold Law and the Let It Harm None rules are important to base all that you do on GOOD. Just because they claim to be a Wiccan doesn't mean they are one. Quote: Wicca is a newer religion, much of what is teaches are a mix between White Magick, old WitchCraft beliefs and a few guidelines some of the more famous witches added into the mix. Wicca isn't that old true. But it's not a mixture of all those things. Quote: Wicca is modern day witchcraft, witchcraft in a way that is not so offensive to Christians. ...No. Quote: I gave her those basic ideas because, if you had read what she asked, she needed to explain Wicca to her friends, who aren't very accepting of Wicca. No, you gave her a general idea for what is called Eclectic Neo-Paganism Quote: I gave her a generalized view, with all the white magick, good based fundamentals. no, you didn't. Quote: Never did I say that every person practices any of those things, just that many do, and many feel it is very important, but it is different for every person who practices. Just because many do, does not make it correct.
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:10 pm
Calelith Po_BirdFlight Actually, the Three Fold Law is widely followed(Widely, as in not everyone follows it), but as I said, it is an individual's religion, I was giving her the basics so that she can explain what the main, more widely practiced points of Wicca are. Not really no and regardless the 3-fold law that does exist within Wicca is related to something ritualistic and therefor not really something that can be applied to everything. That wasn't really the basics and is more akin to what's called Eclectic No-Paganism. Quote: And the let it harm none(Rede) is directed at any spells or rite you do, so that your good intentions are known. The Rede is advice, that's what the word Rede means. And even if the Rede is only directed at spells or rituals, you're still gonna have to burn a candle with will HARM the air around you. You cannot go without harming SOMETHING. Quote: It may not originate in Wiccan, but many follow its guidelines. No it doesn't. Quote: The Earth and the elements are important in everything a Wiccan does spiritually and magickally. Not they're not. Wicca is a fertility witchcult. Sex is an important factor is Wicca. Please, unless you're a Thelemite do not spell magic with a k. It's not needed outside of the context of that belief system. Quote: They aren't rules, they are guide lines to keep people from practicing harmful arts. Harmful acts are not necessarily bad. There is no White or Black magic either, it has no color. Wicca has rules, they're called the Ardanes and it's 161 rules for Wicca. Quote: How about you go look up some Wiccan books or Google it before you trounce around declaring things. Why not, instead of telling to go look up Wiccan books, list the books I should read? Quote: Every practicing Wiccan I've ever spoke to or been in a coven with believes in the Three Fold Law and the Let It Harm None rules are important to base all that you do on GOOD. Just because they claim to be a Wiccan doesn't mean they are one. Quote: Wicca is a newer religion, much of what is teaches are a mix between White Magick, old WitchCraft beliefs and a few guidelines some of the more famous witches added into the mix. Wicca isn't that old true. But it's not a mixture of all those things. Quote: Wicca is modern day witchcraft, witchcraft in a way that is not so offensive to Christians. ...No. Quote: I gave her those basic ideas because, if you had read what she asked, she needed to explain Wicca to her friends, who aren't very accepting of Wicca. No, you gave her a general idea for what is called Eclectic Neo-Paganism Quote: I gave her a generalized view, with all the white magick, good based fundamentals. no, you didn't. Quote: Never did I say that every person practices any of those things, just that many do, and many feel it is very important, but it is different for every person who practices. Just because many do, does not make it correct.
Love Po
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:46 am
Po_BirdFlight we all know you're a close-minded and a religious tyrant.
Do you know what it means to be close-minded and a religious tyrant because I really do not think you do.
I suggest you watch this video clip on what Open-minded really means.
"There is nothing to fear when you have nothing to lose."
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:14 pm
This realy doesn't have to do with magic or wicca itself, but I need some tips on how to tell my not so open minded Christian family that I'm Wiccan.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 6:46 pm
BanefulBekkah This realy doesn't have to do with magic or wicca itself, but I need some tips on how to tell my not so open minded Christian family that I'm Wiccan.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:53 pm
Oh dear Nyx, that is something I'm a little scrambled on myself. My mother has exorcised me twice, and has very twisted ideas of Wicca. I hope your family wouldn't go that far, but at this point, I would not put it past a Christian. I literally had to move out for my mother to stop harassing me after she found out(that, and my tattoos, she wasn't thrilled about those). I have avoided my family every since. Honestly, I'd either not say a word of it until after you move out of their house(if you haven't already), simply because if fecal matter hits the fan, you won't be under their roof to live with their reaction. If you feel like they won't react too bad, or might eventually get over it, I'd try breaching the subject gently, like ask questions about their view points, give little bits of yours without outing yourself, so they slowly soften to the idea. Try not to let them find out, instead eventually tell them yourself. Its always worse when they find out on their own, they feel like you're keeping secrets or lying to them... I'm not being helpful right now, I was miserable in that area. My fight with my mother eventually ended with a.) me getting the hell out of there(as in moved an entire city away), I had just turned 21 anyway, and b.) telling my mother that the reason I didn't want to go to heaven was because she would be there... it was not pretty.
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