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 Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:22 pm
OK. Here's the thing. We have chakras. Everyone here knows I'm sure. Each Chakra is tied a musical note. So, I wanted to start getting into experiments using music for magic. I was hoping to find some other practitioners that played an instrument so I could get some secondary input. I might end up teaching you something you might end up teaching me something.
But before I go too in depth I want to gauge if there's even enough interest.
So where's my music nerds at?!?!?
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:44 pm
I am interested but I don't play my instruments that often and I am barely more than a beginner. The instruments I own are a piano, a violin and an accoustic guitar. But I do listen to music everyday.
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Underworld Priestess Crew
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:08 am
I think there would need to be a lot of research into Hinduism in order to make sense of how the Chakra and note relate. There are also tons of Chakras- but I don't know how many of them are associated with notes. sweatdrop
If you're talking about experiments- what is your hypothesis?
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:13 pm
Esiris I think there would need to be a lot of research into Hinduism in order to make sense of how the Chakra and note relate. There are also tons of Chakras- but I don't know how many of them are associated with notes. sweatdrop If you're talking about experiments- what is your hypothesis? Why do you think there would need to be a lot of research into Hinduism to make sense of how the chakras and notes relate?
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:27 pm
Pretty much, whatever comes to mind. I'd need to know what level of music theory people were familiar with. Or, start teaching them more music theory.
I have a few ideas, for instance,
1. The use of a magic pick. Maybe a metal pick preferably since energy seems to have a hard time sticking to plastic.
2. Meditating while we play the C scale, C D E F G A B C, and playing other scales as well, seeing if we all even HAVE the same musical pitches assigned to our chakras.
3. Using the instrument as an extension of your own energy. Which to be fair musicians do without realizing it, or they do realize it. It would just be sharpening and honing that. Using this extension of our energy to create a desired effect.
4. Studying what different music does to us and why, what music does what to us if we wake up listening to it, fall asleep to it, meditate to it, etc. etc. etc.
5. What out of tune music, tritones, chords and quarter tones do to energy,
6.Note progressions that hold some sort of magic, hey,they might exist,
And pretty much, any other ideas that come to mind. So if I missed anything or anyone has any more ideas. Please, Speak up. I don't want to explore this alone.
Also, if there is a method of exchanging videos via youtube or something that would be a huge help in these studies.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:09 pm
Satrevi Why do you think there would need to be a lot of research into Hinduism to make sense of how the chakras and notes relate? Understanding where a belief system comes from helps avoid people using their privilege to mistreat other cultures. 3nodding Without understanding where the beliefs come from- you're likely to end up with bad information and a lot of stuff that came from ignorant people or people making up stuff to make money. Besides- learning is a good thing. You used the word experiments- pretend you're doing a chemistry experiment instead of a spiritual one. You come up with your hypothesis, test it- making observations, then you record your results and draw your conclusions. But the hypothesis means you have to have a working knowledge to know what to test. If you're testing say- the pH of a lemon, you need to know that pH only works with liquids. To know how music works with chakras, you need to learn about what chakras are instead of what people sell you as chakras.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:15 pm
Esiris Satrevi Why do you think there would need to be a lot of research into Hinduism to make sense of how the chakras and notes relate? Understanding where a belief system comes from helps avoid people using their privilege to mistreat other cultures. 3nodding Without understanding where the beliefs come from- you're likely to end up with bad information and a lot of stuff that came from ignorant people or people making up stuff to make money. Besides- learning is a good thing. You used the word experiments- pretend you're doing a chemistry experiment instead of a spiritual one. You come up with your hypothesis, test it- making observations, then you record your results and draw your conclusions. But the hypothesis means you have to have a working knowledge to know what to test. If you're testing say- the pH of a lemon, you need to know that pH only works with liquids. To know how music works with chakras, you need to learn about what chakras are instead of what people sell you as chakras. Point taken, but there are different belief sets even if they are extremely personal involving chakras as well. You know, I'm glad you spoke up. I honestly have no clue about how Hinduism views, believes in Chakras. I know they're there, Chakras are something that is widely believed in, but, we happen to know to be truth. Long story short, I'm not the best at phrasing things, and I would love your help and knowledge concerning where your chakra traditions come from. ^That. Let's go with the latter. That's the one.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:04 pm
Satrevi Point taken, but there are different belief sets even if they are extremely personal involving chakras as well. Oh yeah! There are lots of different energy systems. 3nodding I just think it treads into using cultural privilege to mistreat others when we call them a name that has a specific meaning from another culture. Quote: You know, I'm glad you spoke up. I honestly have no clue about how Hinduism views, believes in Chakras. I know they're there, Chakras are something that is widely believed in, but, we happen to know to be truth. Long story short, I'm not the best at phrasing things, and I would love your help and knowledge concerning where your chakra traditions come from. ^That. Let's go with the latter. That's the one. I don't really work with that stuff- I have other things I do. My Roommate took a college course on Hinduism and Chakras- she recommends Wheels of Life. It was used as one of her text books- her prof was a Hindu from India.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:15 pm
Esiris Satrevi Point taken, but there are different belief sets even if they are extremely personal involving chakras as well. Oh yeah! There are lots of different energy systems. 3nodding I just think it treads into using cultural privilege to mistreat others when we call them a name that has a specific meaning from another culture. Quote: You know, I'm glad you spoke up. I honestly have no clue about how Hinduism views, believes in Chakras. I know they're there, Chakras are something that is widely believed in, but, we happen to know to be truth. Long story short, I'm not the best at phrasing things, and I would love your help and knowledge concerning where your chakra traditions come from. ^That. Let's go with the latter. That's the one. I don't really work with that stuff- I have other things I do. My Roommate took a college course on Hinduism and Chakras- she recommends Wheels of Life. It was used as one of her text books- her prof was a Hindu from India. Oh, awesome. We're on the same page using different words. Sweetness.
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:19 pm
Satrevi Oh, awesome. We're on the same page using different words. Sweetness. Cool! Good luck on the research!
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:29 pm
Ok. So I thought of where to start today. You know how some rituals have drums going on in the background? It's that simple. Rhythm and beat.
So anyone interested in helping. Just play something very rhythmic and STAY ON BEAT STAY ON BEAT STAY ON BEAT! And work with some energy while you do this. Tell me what you feel.
We'll get more complex as we look into this more. I just figure that rhythm and beat would be the first place to start. Plus, great exercise and practice for further research.
Play, something. Anything. Just make it rhythmic, and something you can keep a beat to and do it well. Whether you try to place a shield while playing your music, or pouring energy into the instrument, or simply conducting energy via sound waves. Or directing the sound waves at something you want to enchant. Just do something. Anything. And we'll get back to each other.
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:11 pm
Satrevi Ok. So I thought of where to start today. You know how some rituals have drums going on in the background? It's that simple. Rhythm and beat. So anyone interested in helping. Just play something very rhythmic and STAY ON BEAT STAY ON BEAT STAY ON BEAT! And work with some energy while you do this. Tell me what you feel. We'll get more complex as we look into this more. I just figure that rhythm and beat would be the first place to start. Plus, great exercise and practice for further research. Play, something. Anything. Just make it rhythmic, and something you can keep a beat to and do it well. Whether you try to place a shield while playing your music, or pouring energy into the instrument, or simply conducting energy via sound waves. Or directing the sound waves at something you want to enchant. Just do something. Anything. And we'll get back to each other. Differnet beats produce different effects. 3nodding
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:59 am
I have a cold, and placing schoolwork before studying this. I'll look into it and see what I find. But not for a few days until I figure out how much homework I have and get over being sick. Well, I might not have a cold but I highly suspect I do.
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:07 pm
So, here's what I noticed. Now, I just tried to project energy, didn't give the energy any definition or purpose, just let it do what it willed. So, gathering and creating is more like it.
i found out that it's easier to lock onto a lower note. It's harder to lock onto a high note, definitely inspired creative energy and temporarily or seemed to improve my skill, more research to come. Faster beats produce energy differently
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:56 pm
So, haven't continued this study since I've been focusing on school and getting involved with my local community of like minded people. Yeah, we'll leave it at that.
I was hoping there'd be more interest in this study.
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