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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:10 pm
Usually, when you are having a discussion based on philosophy, ethics, or anything with a huge amount of subjectivity, conclusions based on own-personal experience, and little effort of being objective; people tend to believe that their opinion, which has been a result of analytic and autonomous thinking, is totally correct. AND IT IS! but for them, and only for each one of them. I was talking to an old 'friend' (in person), and I think this friend underestimates my ability to think analytically, and autonomously; and to some extent, my understanding of social sciences (since my undergraduate focus is in natural sciences); all of this regarding the understanding of human thoughts, psychological understanding, and so on. I believe so because in every one of our discussions I she makes personal comments about and directly towards me when we talk.
My point is: I strongly dislike to be judged upon (underestimates, critics, etc.) by anyone, to the point where I am asking on how to deal with this because I might react to it negatively to her and hurt her feelings. Specially because these same kinds of people tend to take my ---questioning-there-point as an attack, and usually get hostile which eventually leads to being critical, and damaging in a very (from my point of view) unconscious way. I think they don’t really think they are doing what I feel they are doing, because when I confront them, they act as if I’m completely twisting things.
Before you start to type in a serious answer, there is something I should be clear about. The judgments I’m talking about, and not so direct. They are actually indirect, but since I’m very much aware of them I feel them as direct. Also… the choice of words, tone, and body language insinuate that she is just kidding and joking around. Either way, the message is still there; and it bothers me.
I’m having lunch with her tomorrow because she insists I totally ditched and forgot about her. I did ditch. Please don’t tell me to ditch, because what I’m looking for is a standard attitude to deal with these kinds of persons in almost any situation.
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:29 pm
I know this is totally irrelevant, but I love your sig. xd
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:38 pm
DysFUNKtional Duck I know this is totally irrelevant, but I love your sig. xd Thank you. Brought a smile to my face, and I think I needed it. Turned out to be not-so-irrelevant after all; and just to return the compliment: I love your About Me.
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:28 pm
When the discussion gets down to personal attacks I usually abandon it. If you can't discuss the subject matter without making it an attack on me then I'm just not going to have a discussion with you. That's how I play it.
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:34 pm
Obscurus When the discussion gets down to personal attacks I usually abandon it. If you can't discuss the subject matter without making it an attack on me then I'm just not going to have a discussion with you. That's how I play it. Yup yup! Never feed the trolls.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:03 am
I feel that abandoning a conversion lets the other person feel like they've won, which really doesn't solve anything. So what you should do is play mind games with her! emotion_awesome
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:22 am
analytical thinking begins with a**l. That should be a hint. I was professionally trained at universities in analytical and critical thinking. The end results were fantastic. I became quite a**l - a full blown a*****e in fact. Speaking of facts, those are among the first things to either disappear or get routed or manipulated during this thinking process. Ethics get thrown out the window or mutated into some vague globalized monstrosity. Most facts aren't, most history isn't, most scientific evidence is falsified by skewing the numbers, and most perfect calculations are actually crude estimates. Most statistics are biased, and most reasonable discussions end in villainy. The best of intentions lead to the worst of results, and the road to hell is just a hop skip and a jump away.
I recommend keeping your soul. It will be more useful to you than a transmutation into a 2 meter talking sphincter.
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:18 pm
Tifey_Lewis DysFUNKtional Duck I know this is totally irrelevant, but I love your sig. xd Thank you. Brought a smile to my face, and I think I needed it. Turned out to be not-so-irrelevant after all; and just to return the compliment: I love your About Me. Thanks, doll. 4laugh
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:01 am
It's just society's usual ignorance, I wouldn't feel so bad about it. lol You sound very intelligent so I'm sure eventually you'll find out that you're different from others and they wont ever recognize that with sincerity so it's best to just avoid these topics and humor them with bullshit. However for arguments sake if you just wanna learn how to handle these situations all you have to do is let the other person speak their mind first, step 2 you'll have to develop some kind of unbiased opinion about what they just said and then you may speak your mind. At this point, because the other person got to say everything they were thinking without interruption they'll be more inclined to do the same for you when you start speaking. If however they start cutting you short you know that they're just another one of the ignorant and you basically have to humor them to avoid argument. I really hope I helped because I am SO ******** baked right now and I don't even know if I'm giving correct advice. @___@
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:40 am
KingLeonidas57 I feel that abandoning a conversion lets the other person feel like they've won, which really doesn't solve anything. So what you should do is play mind games with her! emotion_awesome baseball bats work at winning conversations as well.
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:32 am
Arcane_Ninja24 KingLeonidas57 I feel that abandoning a conversion lets the other person feel like they've won, which really doesn't solve anything. So what you should do is play mind games with her! emotion_awesome baseball bats work at winning conversations as well. xd
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:08 am
DysFUNKtional Duck Arcane_Ninja24 KingLeonidas57 I feel that abandoning a conversion lets the other person feel like they've won, which really doesn't solve anything. So what you should do is play mind games with her! emotion_awesome baseball bats work at winning conversations as well. xd biggrin
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:32 pm
Arcane_Ninja24 DysFUNKtional Duck Arcane_Ninja24 KingLeonidas57 I feel that abandoning a conversion lets the other person feel like they've won, which really doesn't solve anything. So what you should do is play mind games with her! emotion_awesome baseball bats work at winning conversations as well. xd biggrin wink
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:13 am
I don't blame you for ditching her. xd
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:48 am
ForeverHolson Obscurus When the discussion gets down to personal attacks I usually abandon it. If you can't discuss the subject matter without making it an attack on me then I'm just not going to have a discussion with you. That's how I play it. Yup yup! Never feed the trolls. but then they die! and its so much funnier when they annoy people...
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