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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:47 pm
I see you want truth, you want people to believe what you have to say. Although the thing I'm not seeing is.. Where is your proof? I mean, sure, it sounds like it's quite indeed possible. But ask yourself this; Why would we have a government to lead us, if all they're doing is stressing themselves out. Talking to us, meeting in such large groups to debate, and everything else. Sure, they COULD be using it as a cover-up. But do you really, honestly believe people are THAT corrupt? Lolno. Why do people become corrupt, is the first question. It's usually money. What is the government gaining? The same amount they always have. The only "evil" corrupt are the people who supposedly buyout cancer cures, so they make money from the profit of selling treatment. Thats pretty ******** up. But there is no way to prove it.. I respect you people fighting a revolution, Che Guevara is one of my idols, although you need proof if you want people to take you seriously..
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:36 am
Proof is a fallacy and you're a moron.
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:33 am
DysFUNKtional Duck Proof is a fallacy and you're a moron. agreed. Everyone but fans of Red Dawn are going to be cocksuckers until THEY experience the jackboots knocking on their door, the police brutality, the foreclosure on the home they already own, or some similar act of personally lived tyranny. That's ok. The solution is simply to do an extended, rather than short investigation. Most people just do a bit of googling. One fake story does not invalidate 1000 atrocities. Search for a couple of months, see what comes up. Ask questions you know you shouldn't, to see what really happens. Then decide.
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:36 pm
The reason is to find the reason to believe this. If we already knew, why would we even BE here? My guess is that if it is true, they are either the stupidest collection of people trying to run the world, from seeing the plans, I've ever seen OR they are the greatest actors ever and therefor the worst future we have. I have a feeling it was the first one, though.
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:44 pm
sigh... it is ignorance such as this that keeps the illuminati in power. the deeper you dive into alot of these conspiracy theories the closer you get to the truth. the thing is people can't look at it from just an economical,religious,alchemical,historical, or conspiracy point of view. you have to look at EVERYTHING from EVERY DIFFERENT ANGLE YOU CAN THINK OF. only then can a person comprehend even the slightest lil bit of the way these people have been ruling our world for MILLENIA. then one must dig deeper still to find the truth of it all. i know none of us are master historians and economists or master truth seekers. thats why we have this guild. so that we can all come together and share our ideas bout the truth and maybe come up with some sort of answers
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:20 pm
starchild_777 sigh... it is ignorance such as this that keeps the illuminati in power. the deeper you dive into alot of these conspiracy theories the closer you get to the truth. the thing is people can't look at it from just an economical,religious,alchemical,historical, or conspiracy point of view. you have to look at EVERYTHING from EVERY DIFFERENT ANGLE YOU CAN THINK OF. only then can a person comprehend even the slightest lil bit of the way these people have been ruling our world for MILLENIA. then one must dig deeper still to find the truth of it all. i know none of us are master historians and economists or master truth seekers. thats why we have this guild. so that we can all come together and share our ideas bout the truth and maybe come up with some sort of answers Even On The Night Of The Apocalypse......
Welcome to History class sir. The Illuminati, THE REAL ONE; Bavarian. Was ended around the 1800s IIRC. They say one-fourth of the nation believes in s**t like this, but then again, one-fourth of the nation is retarded.
Everybodys an Optimist......
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:22 pm
Michael Noire DysFUNKtional Duck Proof is a fallacy and you're a moron. agreed. Everyone but fans of Red Dawn are going to be cocksuckers until THEY experience the jackboots knocking on their door, the police brutality, the foreclosure on the home they already own, or some similar act of personally lived tyranny. That's ok. The solution is simply to do an extended, rather than short investigation. Most people just do a bit of googling. One fake story does not invalidate 1000 atrocities. Search for a couple of months, see what comes up. Ask questions you know you shouldn't, to see what really happens. Then decide. Even On The Night Of The Apocalypse......
I'm a moron for not 100% believing what you people believe? Interesting ******** logic. You group of people don't really take kindly to those trying to learn, do you? I think my question has been answered. No one takes you seriously, 'cause your a bunch of shut-ins who only talk s**t via interwebz to make up for their lack of social skills. You make up bullshit so you can coverse to your fellow outcasts, forming a circle jerk of ignorance, and tryhardery. Congratulations.
Everybodys an Optimist......
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:23 pm
Apparently, everything that is said can and will be used against us. Northe I see you want truth, you want people to believe what you have to say. Although the thing I'm not seeing is.. Where is your proof?Saying he doesn't see the proof and asking where the proof is. Also implying that the proof may exist. Northe I mean, sure, it sounds like it's quite indeed possible. But ask yourself this; Why would we have a government to lead us, if all they're doing is stressing themselves out. Talking to us, meeting in such large groups to debate, and everything else. Sure, they COULD be using it as a cover-up. But do you really, honestly believe people are THAT corrupt? Lolno. Why do people become corrupt, is the first question. It's usually money. What is the government gaining? The same amount they always have. The only "evil" corrupt are the people who supposedly buyout cancer cures, so they make money from the profit of selling treatment. Thats pretty ******** up. thorough overview of the entire subject, when it's not. Northe But there is no way to prove it.. Implying that valid proof doesn't exist, automatically making all answers to the question "Where is your proof?" null and void by default, also contradicting asking where the proof is in the first place. Northe I respect you people fighting a revolution,non-violent fighting... Northe Che Guevara is one of my idols, I do not even even know who that is. Northe although you need proof if you want people to take you seriously..Implying that all proof presented in the past is/was null, void, and invalid. Does anyone know if we have any new proof? I've been kinda' "living under a rock" lately when it comes to current events.. Proof?Such as something that is just 100% non-speculation? How about this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=1905s
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:50 pm
Northe Michael Noire DysFUNKtional Duck Proof is a fallacy and you're a moron. agreed. Everyone but fans of Red Dawn are going to be cocksuckers until THEY experience the jackboots knocking on their door, the police brutality, the foreclosure on the home they already own, or some similar act of personally lived tyranny. That's ok. The solution is simply to do an extended, rather than short investigation. Most people just do a bit of googling. One fake story does not invalidate 1000 atrocities. Search for a couple of months, see what comes up. Ask questions you know you shouldn't, to see what really happens. Then decide. Even On The Night Of The Apocalypse......
I'm a moron for not 100% believing what you people believe? Interesting ******** logic. You group of people don't really take kindly to those trying to learn, do you? I think my question has been answered. No one takes you seriously, 'cause your a bunch of shut-ins who only talk s**t via interwebz to make up for their lack of social skills. You make up bullshit so you can coverse to your fellow outcasts, forming a circle jerk of ignorance, and tryhardery. Congratulations.
Everybodys an Optimist...... Did we once say you have to believe all this stuff 100%? There are many things we disagree on. No one takes us seriously? Who are you speaking for? Because I know for a fact you're just one person that has no clue of the extended networking people have. Ignorant? How are we ignorant when we actually have knowledge? We have knowledge of both sides of the fence. The one mainstream breast feeds you with and the one of alternate media and self-research; this entails we are very knowledgeable and thus far from ignorant. Outcasts; maybe I'll agree with you there. But one thing for sure I know you haven't done your research and you expect us to hand you things. No, we just point you in the direction and let you decide for yourself. Too bad most people are too lazy to actually do any research. As for illuminati or what have you who cares what anyone calls it. There are secret meetings. There are secret societies. What they are called has little to no value; the fact remains there are sects that use secrecy and that IMO is proof enough to research into things.
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:08 pm
Not to mention you're kind of just blindly shooting into the dark. You want proof? Proof of what exactly? HAARP? Proof of secret societies? Proof of what exactly? You kind of just led us on demanding proof.
Corruption? Do you really think politicians care about how much our personal government makes when their bills are paid by lobbyist and their governmental salary is miniscule compared to who bought them? Now who pulls their strings if the politicians really don't care how much the government makes? Hmmm now who do those taxes go to if the politicians are already bought? Who owns America now if politicians are bought and they make the laws? If you wish to be naive about it we can say they fight in congress and debate just because different entities bought different people and those entities want different things. The common man does not pay for campaigns for politicians.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:13 am
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:18 am
CAN WE DO THIS WITHOUT RANDOMLY INSULTING PEOPLE!?!
Anyway... The point of this guild is to work to discover the truth. We don't have any solid proof, no, but we have hints and we're working to piece them together.
Some of the hints include: the story about the first president (before Washington) being taken out of text books, the real reason for Pearl Harbor being taken out of text books, and I have some personal "evidence" (for lack of a better word) as well... My cousin had his leg blown off by a mine while he was in Afghanistan, and if the government finds out that I told people, he will lose all phone privileges until he gets back.
But you're right, we have no proof. That's why we're looking for it.
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:57 am
Amras Tasatir CAN WE DO THIS WITHOUT RANDOMLY INSULTING PEOPLE!?! Anyway... The point of this guild is to work to discover the truth. We don't have any solid proof, no, but we have hints and we're working to piece them together. Some of the hints include: the story about the first president (before Washington) being taken out of text books, the real reason for Pearl Harbor being taken out of text books, and I have some personal "evidence" (for lack of a better word) as well... My cousin had his leg blown off by a mine while he was in Afghanistan, and if the government finds out that I told people, he will lose all phone privileges until he gets back. But you're right, we have no proof. That's why we're looking for it. This is the kind of secrecy Kennedy was talking about... It pisses me off that situation with said cousin. If only we had a true mainstream media that; that story could get out and no consequences happened to your cousin...
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:00 pm
Amras Tasatir CAN WE DO THIS WITHOUT RANDOMLY INSULTING PEOPLE!?! No. xd
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:44 pm
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