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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:35 pm


UK Riots: Government Prepares Troops, Martial Law

Eyewitnesses: Police stood back and allowed rioters to loot private businesses

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, August 9, 2011

Following numerous reports of failures on behalf of police to arrest looters or adequately respond to the riots in London that are now sweeping across the entire UK, curfews and troops on the streets are now being readied as authorities prepare to enforce martial law to quell massive civil unrest.

BBC News twice reported this morning that troops were being readied. The statement was first made by a reporter at 8:30am and then repeated by a Metropolitan Police representative who said “all options were on the table”.

U.K. Home Secretary Theresa May confirms that the government is considering “military support for the police”.

Curfews are also being discussed as authorities prepare to transform Britain into a locked down police state.

“Armoured vehicles have been brought in to clear the streets for the first time by police to tackle what senior officers say is the worst rioting and looting in living memory,” reports the Guardian.

“I have not heard of a curfew on mainland Britain in the past century. [It's] very difficult to impose. I’m not saying that it is definitely the way forward but it is something we have to consider,” Diane Abbott, Labour MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington told BBC Breakfast.

Former London mayor Ken Livingstone called for police to use water cannons to disperse the rioters.

Having started in poorer areas of London, the riots have now spread to other major cities including Bristol, Nottingham, Liverpool and Manchester.

There can be little doubt that the vast majority of the rioters are products of the country’s broken society, nihilistic youths who care little about political grievances and are primarily focused with exploiting the chaos to steal as much booty as they possibly can while getting off on mindless violence. This behavior ensures the public will overwhelmingly support whatever measures are proposed to deal with them, even to the point of outright martial law.

These youths should not be seen as the vanguard of some kind of genuine revolution against an abusive system. If that were the case they would be rioting outside of Downing Street, the Houses of Parliament and Buckingham Palace. Instead they are burning down private homes and businesses while looting high-end electrical goods and clothing.

But what has exacerbated the situation is the lackluster police response, with numerous reports from the public that police stood back and allowed looters to pillage both large department stores and private small businesses for hours on end.

During the initial riots in Tottenham on Sunday night, police were criticized for “standing back and allowing rioters to cause havoc.” This trend has continued throughout the three nights of mayhem, with eyewitnesses bewildered at how the police have obviously been ordered not to arrest looters and rioters in some instances.

Make no mistake about it, these riots will be hastily exploited by the system to turn Britain into an even more controlled and surveilled police state than it already is. The riots achieve absolutely nothing aside from making the establishment look reasonable in whatever response it takes, measures which will be fully supported by a public bombarded with images of chaos, looting and burning.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:32 am


Oh give me a break. A cop defends his life and you guys protest, saying that he had no right to.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:50 pm


Trust me, if I'm outnumbered and have nothing but a baton I'm going to let them loot whatever the ******** they want and just stand by and watch, especially if it's not my stuff they're looting. Police in Britain don't carry guns to the best of my knowledge.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:54 pm


A cop shoots a black guy and suddenly everyone loses it.
Now it's gotten to the point people have forgotten what the riot is about.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:03 pm


Captain_Shinzo
A cop shoots a black guy and suddenly everyone loses it.
Now it's gotten to the point people have forgotten what the riot is about.


^this
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:08 pm


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Oh give me a break. A cop defends his life murders a guy and you guys protest, saying that he had no right to.


London Riots Investigation Confirms Police Planted Bullet and Lied,
Murdered “Man Did Not Open Fire”

Posted by Alexander Higgins - August 9, 2011 at 5:15 pm

An independent investigation into the cause of the London riots reveals police planted a bullet and lied about the murder the man that sparked protests that turned into rioting across England.

London Police lied about the circumstances surrounding the shooting of Mark Duggan which have sparked the London riots reveals a much awaited investigation into the shooting.

Police officers said the man who was inside of a cab was shot to death in a gun fight with police officers after the man opened fire but the investigation into the incident reveals the police lied and the man never opened fire.

Adding to the scandal, the police pointed to a bullet that was lodged into a police radiation that officers reported barely missed a police officer.

Ballistic analysis now confirms that the bullet found in the radio was actually fired from a police issued firearms which means that the police shot their own radio to plant evidence to support their story to cover up their brutal execution of the man.

The incident is also a black eye to the corporate media which has ignored numerous reports about the circumstances surrounding the man’s death. Instead they have repeatedly acted as a stenographer for the government reporting the man’s death was a result of a gun fight with the police.

Sky News reports:

Man Shot By Police ‘Did Not Open Fire’

The victim of a police shooting did not fire at officers before he was killed, according to a report by the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

More: http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/08/09/london-riot-investigation-police-planted-bullet-lied-murdered-man-open-fire-52881/

Source: http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16046775


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Oh give me a break. A cop defends his life and you guys protest, saying that he had no right to.


London rioters are not 'protesters', admits BBC
Corporation receives more than 60 complaints over its choice of language when describing rioters and looters
Josh Halliday guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 10 August 2011 17.49 BST
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/10/london-rioters-not-protesters-bbc

The BBC's head of newsgathering has admitted that the corporation should not have described the London rioters as "protesters" after Saturday night, when a peaceful demonstration provided the initial spark for three days of escalating disturbances across the capital.

The BBC was criticised on Tuesday for continually referring to the looters and rioters as "protesters" – three days after the peaceful protest over the death of Mark Duggan in Tottenham.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's The Media Show, Fran Unsworth conceded that its presenters should have dropped the term earlier.

"I think it was probably OK [to use the term "protesters"] on Saturday when the whole incident started off in a peaceful protest in Tottenham," Unsworth said. "But since then I don't think we should have been using 'protesters', clearly they are looters and rioters and that's how we should have been describing them."

Unsworth said: "We try not to be too prescriptive, but yes we have said actually that they're not protesters they're clearly rioters and looters. They are more descriptive terms and we should try and be as accurately descriptive as we can be."

Unsworth confirmed that the BBC had received 62 complaints from viewers on the language issue – but pointed out that 54 of those came after it was highlighted in the Daily Telegraph.

A Telegraph leader on Tuesday claimed the BBC "stupidly insisted" on calling the rioters "protesters".

Mary Hockaday, the head of the BBC multimedia newsroom, rebutted that claim in a post on the corporation's editors' blog on Wednesday.

"It's simply not true to suggest the BBC has portrayed these events as protests," she said. "Our role as with any story is to accurately reflect what is happening – from the original protest in Tottenham on Saturday night through to the subsequent riots and looting.

"We have clearly reported the riots, looting and mayhem of the past few days. The word protest or protester may have cropped up in live fluid coverage, as has been the case with other broadcasters, but none of our audiences to any platform can have been left in any doubt that we have been reporting riots and looting."

Separately, the BBC on Wednesday apologised for a BBC News channel interview with the prominent writer and campaigner Darcus Howe, who presenter Fiona Armstrong accused of taking part in riots in the past.

During a live interview, Armstrong said: "You are not a stranger to riots yourself I understand, are you? You have taken part in them yourself."

Howe replied: "I have never taken part in a single riot. I've been part of demonstrations that ended up in a conflict.

"Stop accusing me of being a rioter and have some respect for an old West Indian negro, because you wanted for me to get abusive. You just sound idiotic – have some respect."

The BBC said in a statement: "We'd like to apologise for any offence that this interview has caused."

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A cop shoots a black guy and suddenly everyone loses it.
Now it's gotten to the point people have forgotten what the riot is about.


^this that ↓



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:16 pm


It's the same situation that happened in 1994(ish) in Los Angeles with the Rodney King shooting where it wasn't a matter of a minority getting shot and killed, but rather excessive police brutality against someone the rest of society feels was well within acceptable reason for defending himself to the extent he did.


Basically it's a text book definition of how violence breeds more violence.

And that can include indirect violence through economic forms of punishment including taxes, fines, fees, etc and other means that can cause frustrations for people who might be the first victims. Which leads to some non complacent people who get arrested and sentenced and stricter laws that affect the other people who were good who now become more frustrated and become non complacent and furthermore get arrested and punished and more laws are put in place. The process repeats itself until eventually it starts leading to everyday antagonistic situation such as where minorities feel cops are deliberately antagonizing them to pick a fight (and I felt that way even as a white male). Eventually it reaches the point where encounters become fatal and questionable... But then the moment the police do something that is viewed as beyond their power, all hell breaks loose and everyone explodes.

You then enact or enforce more laws (martial law) which further continues the cycle of frustration as people are now being physically controlled and punished even for something minor like they're 14 years old being out too late. That causes conflicts with riot police and it continues to escalate into all out war.

At this point you either have regime change, or it does become a police state. Lybia is at this point, Egypt did it already and did it with relative amounts of peace because they kept their whits about them. North Korea is an example of the final product which became a total dictatorship and totalitarian nation state.

The U.S is gradually working that way too, but they have so much more wealth than most people have in other nations that it will take a while before they become so deprived of every basic need that they say enough is enough.....

Unfortunately that's going to take a LONG time because some people aren't even realizing now as American Banks start charging fees/interest on savings accounts, the people that have a savings account are too STUPID to realize that they are not letting the bank "save" their money at all! Which is why they paid the customer for giving them money, Your savings is actually a LOAN to them to pay you interest!!!! It's basically a CD with no withdraw terms so it has a small interest payment....

A bank charging a fee/interest on a savings account is exactly the same as if the worlds stupidest banker gave me $100,000 loan for no reason at all and I decided to charge HIM interest on his loan to me. "If you are going to give me your money to do what I want without you knowing, I'm going to charge you a fee." rolleyes
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:32 pm


Obscurus
Trust me, if I'm outnumbered and have nothing but a baton I'm going to let obey my orders to stand down and let them loot whatever the ******** they want and just stand by and watch frustratedly, especially if it's not my stuff they're looting. Police in Britain don't carry guns to the best of my knowledge.





Police Ordered To Stand Down

# Yard insiders: Officers were 'told just to try and contain violence'

# Complaints by public that looting mobs were being allowed to continue

# Tactics finally changed on Monday as armoured vehicles moved in

# Met Police took three days to issue pictures of offenders


Quote:
Scotland Yard insiders have revealed teams were frustrated at their inability to wade in and arrest troublemakers while they looted and burnt out shops.



It was only on Monday night, when the riots escalated still further, that tactics changed and armoured vehicles called Jankels were used to disperse the crowds.

On Tuesday night, some 16,000 officers also flooded London's streets - almost triple the previous night's deployment - and they were finally given the green light to confront the gangs.

The Met has also come under fire for taking three days to issue any images of suspects - and then only releasing 12 grainy pictures. The Mail Online managed to produce another 30 with ease.




In contrast, Greater Manchester Police were issuing images online via social network sites within hours of similar violence in their area.

In Birmingham, police tracked down suspected rioters hours later and smashed into their homes to arrest them.

Officers mounted raids on around a dozen properties across the city and made seven arrests. They also recovered apparently looted items.

The police's tactics have led to much public criticism from residents and business owners, who are bemused at the 'soft' approach when their livelihoods are being ruined.

Eye witnesses have told of ranks of police standing by while mobs of youths rampaged and stole from shop fronts and terrorised residents.

However, it has been suggested that the approach may also have been dictated by the sheer scale of the problem with teams unable to spare officers to make arrests on the spot.

There have also been calls for far more robust measures - including plastic bullets, water cannon and even the Army - to quell the chaos.







It has been suggested that the softer approach has been sparked by controversy over the death of Ian Tomlinson during the G20 riots and wider criticism of policing during protests.

Mr Tomlinson was struck by a policeman wielding a baton during the G20 protests in 2009 and shoved to the ground.

He suffered massive internal bleeding and died minutes later. The officer involved is now awaiting trial for manslaughter over his death.

Scotland Yard was also heavily criticised in the High Court in April for using 'kettling' during the G20 demonstrations.






Judges ruled the Met had broken the law in the way it kettled 5,000 protesters because it was 'unjustified' and an unlawful deprivation of liberty.


Police were ordered to 'stand and observe' rioters as they laid waste to London's streets instead of confronting them, it was claimed today.

Scotland Yard insiders have revealed teams were frustrated at their inability to wade in and arrest troublemakers while they looted and burnt out shops.

They had apparently been told to try and contain any violence but not to haul away offenders who would instead be identified through video footage later, according to The Times.






Judges ruled the Met had broken the law in the way it kettled 5,000 protesters because it was 'unjustified' and an unlawful deprivation of liberty.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2024412/London-riots-Police-soft-looters-ordered-stand-observe.html#ixzz1Uccrr8zt
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:52 pm


SUPREMEMASTER1
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Oh give me a break. A cop defends his life murders a guy and you guys protest, saying that he had no right to.


London Riots Investigation Confirms Police Planted Bullet and Lied,
Murdered “Man Did Not Open Fire”

Posted by Alexander Higgins - August 9, 2011 at 5:15 pm

An independent investigation into the cause of the London riots reveals police planted a bullet and lied about the murder the man that sparked protests that turned into rioting across England.

London Police lied about the circumstances surrounding the shooting of Mark Duggan which have sparked the London riots reveals a much awaited investigation into the shooting.

Police officers said the man who was inside of a cab was shot to death in a gun fight with police officers after the man opened fire but the investigation into the incident reveals the police lied and the man never opened fire.

Adding to the scandal, the police pointed to a bullet that was lodged into a police radiation that officers reported barely missed a police officer.

Ballistic analysis now confirms that the bullet found in the radio was actually fired from a police issued firearms which means that the police shot their own radio to plant evidence to support their story to cover up their brutal execution of the man.

The incident is also a black eye to the corporate media which has ignored numerous reports about the circumstances surrounding the man’s death. Instead they have repeatedly acted as a stenographer for the government reporting the man’s death was a result of a gun fight with the police.

Sky News reports:

Man Shot By Police ‘Did Not Open Fire’

The victim of a police shooting did not fire at officers before he was killed, according to a report by the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

More: http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2011/08/09/london-riot-investigation-police-planted-bullet-lied-murdered-man-open-fire-52881/

Source: http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16046775


The rose in spring
Oh give me a break. A cop defends his life and you guys protest, saying that he had no right to.


London rioters are not 'protesters', admits BBC
Corporation receives more than 60 complaints over its choice of language when describing rioters and looters
Josh Halliday guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 10 August 2011 17.49 BST
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/10/london-rioters-not-protesters-bbc

The BBC's head of newsgathering has admitted that the corporation should not have described the London rioters as "protesters" after Saturday night, when a peaceful demonstration provided the initial spark for three days of escalating disturbances across the capital.

The BBC was criticised on Tuesday for continually referring to the looters and rioters as "protesters" – three days after the peaceful protest over the death of Mark Duggan in Tottenham.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's The Media Show, Fran Unsworth conceded that its presenters should have dropped the term earlier.

"I think it was probably OK [to use the term "protesters"] on Saturday when the whole incident started off in a peaceful protest in Tottenham," Unsworth said. "But since then I don't think we should have been using 'protesters', clearly they are looters and rioters and that's how we should have been describing them."

Unsworth said: "We try not to be too prescriptive, but yes we have said actually that they're not protesters they're clearly rioters and looters. They are more descriptive terms and we should try and be as accurately descriptive as we can be."

Unsworth confirmed that the BBC had received 62 complaints from viewers on the language issue – but pointed out that 54 of those came after it was highlighted in the Daily Telegraph.

A Telegraph leader on Tuesday claimed the BBC "stupidly insisted" on calling the rioters "protesters".

Mary Hockaday, the head of the BBC multimedia newsroom, rebutted that claim in a post on the corporation's editors' blog on Wednesday.

"It's simply not true to suggest the BBC has portrayed these events as protests," she said. "Our role as with any story is to accurately reflect what is happening – from the original protest in Tottenham on Saturday night through to the subsequent riots and looting.

"We have clearly reported the riots, looting and mayhem of the past few days. The word protest or protester may have cropped up in live fluid coverage, as has been the case with other broadcasters, but none of our audiences to any platform can have been left in any doubt that we have been reporting riots and looting."

Separately, the BBC on Wednesday apologised for a BBC News channel interview with the prominent writer and campaigner Darcus Howe, who presenter Fiona Armstrong accused of taking part in riots in the past.

During a live interview, Armstrong said: "You are not a stranger to riots yourself I understand, are you? You have taken part in them yourself."

Howe replied: "I have never taken part in a single riot. I've been part of demonstrations that ended up in a conflict.

"Stop accusing me of being a rioter and have some respect for an old West Indian negro, because you wanted for me to get abusive. You just sound idiotic – have some respect."

The BBC said in a statement: "We'd like to apologise for any offence that this interview has caused."

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A cop shoots a black guy and suddenly everyone loses it.
Now it's gotten to the point people have forgotten what the riot is about.


^this that ↓



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:57 pm


Yeah...after my post I started thinking that the media is most likely not telling us something or is twisting the truth big time.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:36 pm


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So they're not allowed to do their jobs because people are complaining that they were doing their jobs? Or they are doing their jobs, just not immediately but later when they can catch the offenders alone? Or is it both?

It sounds like a huge ******** because the police want to do their jobs but they're not allowed to do their jobs because when they do their jobs people get hurt. This makes my head hurt a little.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:39 pm


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So they're not allowed to do their jobs because people are complaining that they were doing their jobs? Or they are doing their jobs, just not immediately but later when they can catch the offenders alone? Or is it both?

It sounds like a huge ******** because the police want to do their jobs but they're not allowed to do their jobs because when they do their jobs people get hurt. This makes my head hurt a little.
Don't forget their jails are full up now so they can't even really bring people in.
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