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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:44 am


Clan Name: Kamitsuru
Village: Konoha
Element Affinity: Water
Description of Clan: The Kamitsuru are a clan known for their beauty and court prowess who up until 50 years ago were only found gracing the courts of feudal lords. Recently a branch has broken off and become ninja again like the clan's ancestors were in times of old. These ninja keep up their courtly heritage and instead put the unique blend of skills required to be an effective courtier to use as ninja.
Physical Appearance: Clan woman are always very attractive and clan men tend to be as well. All clan members have black hair and a dark brown almost black eye color.
History: This clan for a long time supplied the mistresses for various damiyos. If they weren't mistresses most of them could be found gracing the halls of various royal courts. Members of this clan are all descended from one woman who was serving at a court at the time when all members of her clan where killed out of fear of their kekkei genkai. She changed her name and due to her place in the feudal lord’s court was spared from the mob violence that eliminated so many kekkei genkei holders. This woman also lacked the gene to perform the clan’s kekkei genkei, a trait she passed on to all her descendents. Due to selective breeding the clan kept their beautiful appearance, however as about 50 years ago some clan members moved to Konoha and took up the ninja way of life, there is no longer any active selective breeding for this group taking place.
Habits and Social Structure: The clan in Konoha is quite small. They tend to rely on clan elders when it comes to deciding things.

Clan members of the branch who became ninja as small children are sent to be under the wing of family members still in feudal lord's courts until it is time for them to enter the academy. Even while in the academy any vacations, or times the clan can get away with it, the young clan members are spent back with relatives in feudal lords courts. This is so they learn courtly skills and behavior.

Quirks and Special Features:vAll members of the clan are trained to use two weapons from childhood, the Naginata and Court Tessen. They are also taught various "beauty" arts and dances.

Those who stay flowers of the court are allowed to use the name Kamitsuru. The ones who became ninja again had the condition that they change their name to Kamitori.

In game Stats:
  • +2 Dexterity
  • +3 Charisma
  • +2 Ninja Weapon Naginata per 10 levels
  • +2 Ninja Weapon Court Tessen per 10 levels

  • -3 Constitution
  • -2 Taijutsu per 5 levels

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Owner: Konako_Akari
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:21 am


You asked me to look at it but... Kanako, is this already finished? o.O

A few notes

  • Konoha is misspelled xD;
  • Description of clan is way too short. (The Yamanaka are known for their beauty as well. That's not enough to distinguish a certain group of people.) Also, the difference between shinobi and civilians lies within the ability to use chakra as only those born of shinobi lineages can manipulate chakra. In essence, the ancestor of this clan has to be a shinobi as well, it cannot be the clan conveniently became shinobi at a later time. Unless you are implying they were so talented with weapons that a major shinobi village was impressed enough to receive them.
  • In the history part - Kekkai Genkai? o.O But I don't see mention of one... If they have one, the history would probably more be along the lines of explaining how it developed, and etc. If they were murdered for being skilled weapon users, that is a possibility too in feudal courts.
  • Way too many in-game stats that have no basis as of the current clan description/history.

    Dexterity bonus is reasonable. Charisma however is a generalized ability that you train. That is because even if you are naturally charismatic, you'll be good at some aspects, but not at others. Seduction, therefore is a possibility in replacement of Charisma.

    There is no proof that this clan is capable in Alchemy and Diplomacy also is a trained Skill, similar to the generalized sense defining Charisma. Perform is too generalized, you can do it as Perform Dance. Read Lips also have no basis nor do I see necessity for this clan to have a Sense Motive bonus. Naginata usage bonus also have no basis.

    Clans should have a direct focus. If this clan had always trained with mastering usage of the Tessen fan, then it should be that singular focus.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:46 am


I'll fix it
The original clan anchestor WAS a ninja

The kekkei genkei is not important it died out

I'll remove the charisma part

I'll tell you the basis of the skills

Alchemy Is very important in dececting poisions (and making them) somthing that is critacal in cour life

Diplomacy is nessesary to please patrons members of the clan have a natural tallent because those who did not would end up offending the wrong person and dieing because of it (they are also thought this from an early age)

Performing a variety of things is nessesary when it comes to pleaseing patrons . it was one of the main things taught to nobble woman

Reading Lips is one of the most valuable assets in court life. you can know what people are saying about you even when they do not want you too

Sense Motive. this is something that acumulated over time rather like Diplomacy

Naginata where the main weapon used many japanese noble woman

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:55 am


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Clan Name: Koriniau
Village: Kanoha
Element Affinity: Water
Description of Clan: The Koriniau Are a clan known for their beauty, and court prowess who up until 50 years ago where only found gracing the courts of feudal lords. Recently a stand has broken off and become ninja again like the clan's ancesstor was in times of old. these ninja keep up their courtly haritage and instead put the unique blend of skills required to be an efective courtier to use as ninja
Physical Appearance: Clan woman are always very attractive this is due to clan history. clan men tend to be as well. All clan members have black hair and a dark brown almost black eye color
History: This clan for a long time supplied the mistresses for various dynamos. If not mistresses most of them could be found gracing the halls of various royal courts. Members of this clan are all descended from one woman who was serving at a court at the time when all members of her clan where killed out of fear of their kekkei genkai. She changed her name and due to her place in the feudal lord’s court was spared from the mob violence that eliminated so many kekkei genkei. This woman also lacked the gene to perform the clan’s kekkei genkei, a trait she passed on to all her descendents. Due to selective breeding the clan kept their beautiful appearance, however as about 50 years ago some clan members moved to konoha and took up the ninja way of life, there is no longer any active selective breeding for this group taking place.
Habits and Social Structure: The clan in konoha is quite small. They tend to rely on clan elders when it comes to deciding things.
Quirks and Special Features: All members of the clan are trained to use two weapons from childhood, the Naginata and Court Tessen. They are also taught various “beauty” arts and dances
In game Stats: +5 Dexterity +2 charisma per 5 levels +2 alchemy +3 Dipomancy +3 preform +3 read lips +3 sence motive +5 Naginata +2 naginata per 5 levels +5 court tessen +2 court tessen per 5 levels +7 sediction – 7 Intimidate –5 Sleight of Hand -6 Survival –7 all other weapons besides shurikan, Kunai, Naginata, and court tessen –3 taijutsu -5 puppet play
Technique List: None yet
Owner: Konako_Akari

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:56 am


The problem, Kanako, is even if they were important, those aren't skills you are born with but rather trained. Course, you might have special lessons for this clan that might encourage raising those areas quickly, but you are not going to be naturally talented in all these areas. In-game is a reference to that really - literally thanks to the blood lineage type bonuses. Even the Uchiha don't get a Sense Motive bonus until activating Sharingan.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:06 pm


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The problem, Kanako, is even if they were important, those aren't skills you are born with but rather trained. Course, you might have special lessons for this clan that might encourage raising those areas quickly, but you are not going to be naturally talented in all these areas. In-game is a reference to that really - literally thanks to the blood lineage type bonuses. Even the Uchiha don't get a Sense Motive bonus until activating Sharingan.


you're right. I added this: "Clan members of the branch who became ninja as small children are sent to be under the wing of family members still in feudal lord's courts until it is time for them to enter the academy. Even while in the academy any vacations, or times the clan can get away with it, the young clan members are spent back with relatives in feudal lords courts. This is so they learn court skills and behavior."

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:08 pm


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The problem, Kanako, is even if they were important, those aren't skills you are born with but rather trained. Course, you might have special lessons for this clan that might encourage raising those areas quickly, but you are not going to be naturally talented in all these areas. In-game is a reference to that really - literally thanks to the blood lineage type bonuses. Even the Uchiha don't get a Sense Motive bonus until activating Sharingan.



(also in the villages what age is a good age to start at? (so they become genin at 12)
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:11 pm


Adding that tidbit is good at all, but unfortunately I can't offer any help in bending the Training system. It's really if you train well, you are rewarded well. So the bonuses have to go. (It's up to you to train those skills as per logically according to your clan traditions.) :[

In terms of cons, too, it is an uneven balance because very likely those are skills you are never going to use. Why would a graceful geisha-like clan use Puppet Play?

Plus, Sense Motive is definitely too much because it is the counter for Intimidation, Seduction, and Diplomacy. That's why Uchiha's is temporary, and only when the Doujutsu is active.

As for the shinobi Academy, I see Students as young as 8 and as old as 12.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:01 pm


ProtoXtreme
Adding that tidbit is good at all, but unfortunately I can't offer any help in bending the Training system. It's really if you train well, you are rewarded well. So the bonuses have to go. (It's up to you to train those skills as per logically according to your clan traditions.) :[

In terms of cons, too, it is an uneven balance because very likely those are skills you are never going to use. Why would a graceful geisha-like clan use Puppet Play?

Plus, Sense Motive is definitely too much because it is the counter for Intimidation, Seduction, and Diplomacy. That's why Uchiha's is temporary, and only when the Doujutsu is active.



As for the shinobi Academy, I see Students as young as 8 and as old as 12.


so I have to get rid of all of them? or can I keep a few?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:09 am


+3 Strength
-3 Dexterity
+2 Intelligence
-2 Chakra.


That is what I recommend. It's simple and it works well with the Naginata. Though, only strength based weapons would be used with your clan, so you wouldn't want Dex weapons like Shuriken and throwing Kunai.


Also, this is what a clan should look like, the Inuzuka for example.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:25 am


Qyp
+3 Strength
-3 Dexterity
+2 Intelligence
-2 Chakra.


That is what I recommend. It's simple and it works well with the Naginata. Though, only strength based weapons would be used with your clan, so you wouldn't want Dex weapons like Shuriken and throwing Kunai.


Also, this is what a clan should look like, the Inuzuka for example.


The court tessen is a dextarity based weapon though
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:29 am


I've revised it is this good?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:37 am


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+3 Strength
-3 Dexterity
+2 Intelligence
-2 Chakra.


That is what I recommend. It's simple and it works well with the Naginata. Though, only strength based weapons would be used with your clan, so you wouldn't want Dex weapons like Shuriken and throwing Kunai.


Also, this is what a clan should look like, the Inuzuka for example.


The court tessen is a dextarity based weapon though

Oh dang...

Well, how about...

+3 Strength
+2 Dexterity
-3 Constitution
-2 Chakra.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:38 am


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+3 Strength
-3 Dexterity
+2 Intelligence
-2 Chakra.


That is what I recommend. It's simple and it works well with the Naginata. Though, only strength based weapons would be used with your clan, so you wouldn't want Dex weapons like Shuriken and throwing Kunai.


Also, this is what a clan should look like, the Inuzuka for example.


The court tessen is a dextarity based weapon though

Oh dang...

Well, how about...

+3 Strength
+2 Dexterity
-3 Constitution
-2 Chakra.


so the one i have now does not work? ok...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:46 am


Konako_Akari
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Konako_Akari
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+3 Strength
-3 Dexterity
+2 Intelligence
-2 Chakra.


That is what I recommend. It's simple and it works well with the Naginata. Though, only strength based weapons would be used with your clan, so you wouldn't want Dex weapons like Shuriken and throwing Kunai.


Also, this is what a clan should look like, the Inuzuka for example.


The court tessen is a dextarity based weapon though

Oh dang...

Well, how about...

+3 Strength
+2 Dexterity
-3 Constitution
-2 Chakra.


so the one i have now does not work? ok...

Proto said you had to many stats... sweatdrop

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