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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:05 am


Name: Penina Pearlman

Nickname: Nina

Age: 16

Birthday: July 16th

Sign: Cancer

Gemstone: Ruby

Blood Type: A-

Fav. Food: Fake out Philly Cheesesteak, Eggplant Parmesan

Hated Food: Meat, all meat. Yes, even the fishes

School: Meadowview High School (Co-Ed)

Hobbies:

sewing: Nina's Grandmother taught her how to sew when she was much younger. They would spend afternoons together sewing quilt patches or working on clothes for her dolls. She eventually started making clothes for herself as well as her helping her younger siblings mend their clothes when they were accident prone.

gardening: Nina started growing her own vegetables because while she likes to buy organic food it tends to be very expensive. She finds it's cheaper and easier to make sure the food is actually 100% organic if she grows it herself. She shares the surplus she has with her neighbors. Her younger siblings help her in the garden. They pick a new vegetable and fruit to try every year. Then they do a taste test to decide whether or not they should grow it again. It takes a lot of work, but in the end it's always well worth the work.

vegetarian chef club: She runs a cooking club that has cook outs and chili contests. They formed the club after eating out and finding that the vegetarian dishes were appalling. They wanted to let people know that you don't need to eat meat to get flavor and that vegetarians eat more than just salads. She advocates vegetarianism because of the cruelty people tend to show animals that they intend on eating and the impact factory farming has on the environment.

Virtues:

Peacemaker: Being the oldest Nina feels the need to help her younger siblings get along better. She has a way of diffusing a situation and helping both parties see eye to eye. Which takes a lot of patience when you have 4 sisters. She's also very good at solving arguments involving her friends. She sits down with the people that are arguing and tries to help them see the situation from the other person's point of view.

Organized: She keeps careful notes on all things she's expected to do in her phone. She has alarms to remind her of important events. She also keeps lists of everything she needs to get and from where.

Considerate: Nina has a hard time telling people no because she's afraid she'll hurt their feelings. She tends to take on too much sometimes in an attempt to satisfy everyone's needs and wants. She loves to help people. She's a softy when it comes to people.

Flaws:

Bossy: The way she does it is the best way. I mean she wouldn't do it if it weren't the right thing to do after all. If people would just realize how much better her way is they'd be so much happier.

OCD: Nina has extreme things have a place and need to be in it OCD. Things are sorted by color, size, and alphabetical order. She will have a panic attack if something is placed out of order in her things. She knows right away if someone has borrowed or gone through her things even if it's only a half an inch left of where it normally is.

PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION

Eyes: Roundish green eyes with silver flecks

Hair: dark purple with bangs. She normally wears it up in braided buns toward the back of her head.

Looks like this from the back.

Face: Heart-shaped face, freckles across her cheeks and nose

Clothes: sundresses, sandals. She likes greens, blues, and white. She has a weakness for flower shaped earrings, but hates necklaces.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:08 am


Penina's family is Jewish.

Jacob Pearlman - He is a judge. He promised his wife that if she would have enough children to spell out pearls that he would buy her all the pearls she wanted. He had half hoped that they would be boys, but after the birth of Penina he was over joyed to be a father of daughters. He is very much a proud father and attends all of his daughters' events. He has a weird sense of humor and named his first daughter Penina because of his wife's love of pearls.

Deborah Pearlman - The somewhat doting mother. Deborah is a doctor that spends as much of her spare time with her children as she possibly can. She tends to push them toward careers where she feels they will be able to support themselves with no problems. She is slightly disappointed that Penina is not interested in following in her foot steps, but she does her best to hide it. She has been pushing her toward culinary school after realizing how good she is at cooking.

Esther Pearlman - ( 14 ) Has hopes to be an astronaut. She is constantly harassing Penina to help her study astrology.

Abigail Pearlman - ( 14 ) Esther's twin sister. Abigail is more interested in the earth than the stars. She wants to be a Geologist. She is the sister that helps in the garden the most.

Rebecca Pearlman - ( 10 ) her favorite class is Math. Penina helps her with her math class.

Leah Pearlman - ( 8 ) Leah follows Penina around like a puppy. She tries to do everything she does. She even wears her hair the same way. She tried to get her mother to let her dye her hair, but thankfully their mother forbade it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:11 am


Some day you’ll know I was the one,

~reserved~

But tomorrow may rain so I’ll follow the sun.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:21 am


Some day you’ll know I was the one,

~reserved~

But tomorrow may rain so I’ll follow the sun.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:34 am


Crit Ahoy!

Nickname: This one I had to ask about. Why Abbie? This struck me as a slightly unusual nickname, when my first thought on nickname might have been Penny (from Penia) is her middle name Abigail? What's the backstory on this unexpected nickname? Inquiring minds want to know!

Hobbies: Since she hates meat of all kinds, does she also exclude it from her cooking, or does she cook with it because other people eat it? If she entirely excludes it from her cooking, I might call it vegetarian cooking(and/or baking) but that's just for a little more 'meat' so to speak on this hobby. Pun possibly intended.

Virtues and Flaws:

You've got some potentially interesting stuff here, like Peace Maker, though it reads very sparsely at the moment. Does she also use her Peace Maker skills on other people, or does she save these attempts to calm troubled waters for close friends and family? Is there a limit to her patience, for example?

Faithful: She's faithful, though this makes me wonder how she'd react when other people don't necessarily follow her 'never behind the back' policy? High School is an absolutely brutal place for this as we're all familiar, and relationships can change at the drop of an rumor. How do these savage, youthful politics affect her?


Just Can't Say No: This is a good one, I think and can lead to her being taken advantage of. ((This could lead to interesting in character conflicts with faithful.)) What's the upper limit before she finally has to give up and say no?

Forgetful: This is the only flaw I'm seeing that seems like it could really make people outright dislike her, or something about her. It also seems like it could get a little bit interesting in places where people aren't expecting a little cell phone alarm to go off.

Muse Gone Bad: I'm having a little trouble seeing how this is going to be a strong negative unless it's regular enough that it's causing her to loose sleep and possibly contributing to the forgetfulness. It's an interesting character trait but (personally) it feels like it lacks serious punch as a flaw.

She seems like a sweet, very ordinary girl, overall. I just feel like she could use a little more definition I guess? Otherwise she definitely seems to have potential!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:36 am


Some day you’ll know I was the one,

I changed her name this morning and forgot to change her nickname.

I'll work on the rest. Thank you.

But tomorrow may rain so I’ll follow the sun.

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zippedsiren

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:59 am


I would just keep in mind that there is a Penelope and a Penny (also goes by Penelope) exist as shop characters. So you might want to think about which name she's going to go by since there can't be too much overlap in names (there can be some! but there can't be like, 5 Pennys running around). But if she prefers her full real name, there's no issue : )

: )

Good luck!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:08 am


Some day you’ll know I was the one,

Thank you. I changed her nickname.

But tomorrow may rain so I’ll follow the sun.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:14 pm


The only thing I can think of is that your hobbies seem to be mostly solitary. She cooks, which is awesome, but her family seems to be the only beneficiary. How do these hobbies get her out into the world? How can they introduce her to people? Does she have a veggie stand at a local market? Does she ever sew commissions for her classmates? Does she even have time for a social life?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 10:16 pm


First off, I notice you posted this same character twice in the stamping thread! I'm sorry, but you can only have one post in the stamping thread at a time -- it's unfair to other players to "reserve" a spot for more crit or stamp down the road like that. You can only post again after you have recieved crit or a stamp from RP staff: the RP staff members are Natsube, Nessy, Orestae, Akina Tokuwa and myself.

So in the interest of fairness towards other players, your next request in the stamping will have to be skipped over. However, you are free to post again after you have considered the following crit and made revisions.


Formatting:

Right now your profile is a bit difficult to read because it has several run-on sentences or sentence fragments. In other words, there aren't very many commas where it would be appropriate to put them. When you're revising, I would recommend going through your sentences and fixing the structure where appropriate -- I'm not going to go through all the rules of comma usage in this post, but you can find some tips here if you need them.


HOBBIES:

First off, I would combine Vegetarian Cooking and Vegetarian Chef Club into the same hobby. They both talk about her being a vegetarian chef, so the fact that she's in a club for it is part of that interest, not an entirely different one! The way you have it described makes me think she's pretty adamant about the vegetarian lifestyle, does she express this in ways other than just cooking meatless dishes? Why did she choose to cut meat out of her diet -- health reasons? Ethical reasons? Does she try and convince her family and friends to go vegetarian?

For her Gardening hobby, you need more information on why she likes to garden. What got her into it? What makes it so rewarding? Is the yearly taste test a family tradition that she really looks forward to?

I would do some similar expansion for Sewing since it's a very, very bare trait right now. I really doubt that her height was her main motivation for learning this skill -- she'd have had to start doing it at a younger age to be really good at it, and it shouldn't have been too difficult to find clothes that fit when she was still growing! So, I'd look for more reasons for why she picked up this skill and why she keeps on doing it. For example, did she ever have to repair clothes for her younger siblings to avoid getting in trouble with her parents?


VIRTUES:

For Peacemaker, you need to tell us HOW she is able to solve an argument. Right now it looks like she's just somehow magically able to make a fight stop. That is not going to work very well in an RP, where it's up to other players to decide how their characters react to yours! So instead of saying "she can stop fights!" tell us a way she thinks and acts that might be useful in getting people to settle down during a dispute. Why does she think people getting along is so important? What does she do in her attempts to help keep the peace, and how does this make her admirable?

Furthermore...

Quote:
Being the oldest Nina feels the need to help her younger siblings get along better. She has a way of diffusing a situation and helping both parties see eye to eye. Which takes a lot of patience when you have 4 sisters. She's also very good at solving arguments involving her friends. Her limits are people that try and trick her into eating meat or anyone that messes with her garden. If either of these two things were to happen she'll fly off the handle at the offending party.


These last two sentences don't really have anything to do with this trait -- they're listing a couple of her pet peeves, not contributing to the description of her Peacemaker virtue. Trait descriptions really need to stay on topic in order to read well, so that part of the description should be removed when you're revising.


Your Faithful virtue also has the problem of veering off topic in the description:

Quote:
Nina will stick with a person/project through thick and thin. She is faithful to her customers and her friends. She would never go behind a friend's back even if there was the slightest chance it would be beneficial because if it were really beneficial it could also be done in the open. Highschool has been rough of Nina. With all the rumors she has a hard time keeping friends. She tends to be very blunt about what she expects from people. If she hears a rumor she tends to pick the person apart about whether they actually know it's true or they just heard it might be true. Thankfully she does have one really good friend that she's had since she was very young. When it comes to her 'never behind the back' policy she's very much either you tell or I'll tell. Which doesn't always win her many popularity contests.


None of this stuff in bold tells me anything about how she's a faithful person or how she's a likable person because of it. D: It's good to include extra information on your character, but not when it's not really related to the subject being addressed in that specific part of the form. The bolded part should be replaced with more information about this virtue. Describe what viewpoints she has that give her this trait, how she acts on these views and how this makes her likable!

It's also worth noting that Loyal / Faithful is a REALLY COMMON trait in character profiles. Loyalty to your friends is such a common theme and expectation both in the real world and in fictional worlds that saying Penina is loyal / faithful doesn't add anything unique or interesting to her personality. You can keep the trait and expand it if you really want to, but I would at least add one more virtue that's more unique to her character. The goal should be to describe her in a way that sets her apart from her peer group.


FLAWS:

Just Say No strikes me as "Too Nice," which... really isn't an actual flaw. You talk about how she cares about people, wants to help people and is considerate towards people's feelings. These are all admirable traits, so this is a virtue and not a flaw! So, I'd possible restructure this into a Considerate virtue.

With Forgetful: again, this is looking more like a virtue than a flaw. You're talking about the measures she takes to avoid forgetting things, so I'm not seeing a forgetful individual when I read this characteristic. With all the notes she makes for herself and the lists that she makes, I'm seeing someone who's really Organized. So, just like her Just Say No Flaw, you should rework this a bit and put it in her virtue set if you want to keep this trait.

I'm a bit confused with Muse Gone Bad. Are you trying to say she's really impulsive? The way it's written now, it doesn't exactly work as a flaw. Flaws need to be negative traits. This is reading off as more of a quirk than a negative characteristic.


In short, your flaw set is full of traits that aren't really flaws. A flaw is an aspect of your character's personality that gives others a reason to look DOWN on them. They make your character somehow irritating, annoying, or otherwise unpleasant to be around. A flaw that genuinely reflects badly on your character IC does not mean players will dislike her OOC -- as a matter of fact, a good flaw means players will be more interested in RPing with her because it will make her a LOT more fun to play with than if there were nothing about her that made her dislikable. The latter is really boring to try and play against.

You need to take another look at the interests and behaviors you imagine your character having now, and see if you can pull out anything that could work as a solid flaw. A lot of times a virtue has a bad side to it when it's taken too far: for example, if she's so interested in being the Peacemaker in social situations, is it possible that she can get Bossy and try way too hard to get people under control? Penina is also really adamant about getting across a certain image about vegetarians -- does this extend to other things she gets passionate about? Maybe she can get really Preachy about her beliefs, and tries to push her ideas so hard her peers just want her to shut up.

There's a lot of fun things you can do here, you just have to be willing to give her some bad traits that are... well, actually bad. <3

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