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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:00 pm
I don't know I think it's ridiculous to hide your kid from such things, it comes to a point where it gets ridiculous. One time when I was on vacation and we were riding a trolley, they started singing 100 bottles of beer and some lady shouted pop every time they said beer and it sucked the fun out of it. They might as well know sooner or later because they are going to find out what beer is sometime. I'm not saying they should know things like hardcore sex stuff and stuff like that (though they should basic biology, of course) but other then that parents shouldn't do that. Perhaps they just want there kids to stay young forever and innocent but by the time you're 6 I think parents need to let go and let you explore and know things.
Also, there's this 16 year old kid Named Curtis at my school. His parents have pretty much dumped innocence on him. He thinks the holocaust couldn't have happened cause that would've been too violent and whenever he hears the word "sex" uttered, even when it's just a syllable (such as when the subject is sexual orientation, Sexual harrassment, or sex discrimination) he covers his ears and cowers into the fetal position. I guess his parents made him this way due to attachment issues, but that's no excuse to deny him the real world. He's 16! Don't they understand the consequences in the long run? They're pretty much ruining his life! It's not gonna be pleasant when he finds a gun. He won't know what it is and could accidentally shoot himself. But seriously, denying the holocaust on account of the violence ? He thinks "wars" are just minor childish arguments. I notified the some of the staff at my school about this situation yet no one's doing anything about it. I'm really concerned about this kid. He'll most likely end up in a mental institution, or he'll end up like my distant 50-year-old uncle (he's a NEET). Did I mention Curtis is 16?
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:40 pm
My gosh, that's the most horrible thing I've ever heard about. A 16 year old not knowing about the holocaust and thinking wars are childish? That is too sad.
Though people want others to be innocent, it's not all that great. Your school should really do something about that, or at least try to make him understand that the holocaust is real and wars are something that is in human nature. There will always be wars, whether it's from a small squabble or something huge like terrorists. It's not going to change, at least not in this century.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:00 am
I'd think it's mostly preventative, if someone exposed their kids to that kind of stuff too much, that makes them think that that sort of thing is acceptable. On another note, if their kids start reciprocating that kind of behaviour, it makes the parents look bad.
But, finding that spot that's, "just right", instead of too far to either side would take work, and the apathetic nature of people today means that many of them would much rather eliminate those factors entirely than have to deal with them at all.
And personally, I think what's happening with this Curtis guy is just as much his own fault. Sure, he may be complacent enough that he thinks the world is made of sunshine and rainbows, but to be blunt, he'd have to be an idiot regardless to not question and consider what he's taught on some level.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:13 am
Elektro7 I'd think it's mostly preventative, if someone exposed their kids to that kind of stuff too much, that makes them think that that sort of thing is acceptable. On another note, if their kids start reciprocating that kind of behaviour, it makes the parents look bad. But, finding that spot that's, "just right", instead of too far to either side would take work, and the apathetic nature of people today means that many of them would much rather eliminate those factors entirely than have to deal with them at all. And personally, I think what's happening with this Curtis guy is just as much his own fault. Sure, he may be complacent enough that he thinks the world is made of sunshine and rainbows, but to be blunt, he'd have to be an idiot regardless to not question and consider what he's taught on some level. Though, if he thinks the world's made of sunshine and rainbow, he probably might thimk that lies don't exist either.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:28 am
... I doubt he could really be that deluded. Although if he is, then he's lying to himself, whether he knows it or not, and that can only lead to him going to a bad place emotionally with the unparalelled amount of denial. And to be perfectly honest, I'd hope he'd stay there, good riddance, people like that are ruining the world.
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:00 am
My oldest child is 6 and I tell her about everything. I want her to know what the world is really like prepare her so she doesn't have to find out the hard way. I explain everything, I don't try to scare her just inform her. Knowledge is a better protector then blissful ignorance.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:13 pm
I think that he needs to know these things. This can be considered brainwashing, but I dont think that it falls directly under psycological abuse unless the parents are deliberatly conditioning hin to get that response.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:51 pm
Mayor Twihard I think that he needs to know these things. This can be considered brainwashing, but I dont think that it falls directly under psycological abuse unless the parents are deliberatly conditioning hin to get that response. Take it from me, it's obviuos they are.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:52 pm
Shilberu Erikku Mayor Twihard I think that he needs to know these things. This can be considered brainwashing, but I dont think that it falls directly under psycological abuse unless the parents are deliberatly conditioning hin to get that response. Take it from me, it's obviuos they are. Thats not good. Does the kid have any mental issues?
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:53 pm
how can that 16 year old learn about social studies and history if he doesn't believe in war? that i just too childish. he has to grow up. maybe look some things up on google : D
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:05 pm
Mayor Twihard Shilberu Erikku Mayor Twihard I think that he needs to know these things. This can be considered brainwashing, but I dont think that it falls directly under psycological abuse unless the parents are deliberatly conditioning hin to get that response. Take it from me, it's obviuos they are. Thats not good. Does the kid have any mental issues? I guess artificially but not at all naturally
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:26 pm
Well, he is going to get a wake up call one day.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:13 pm
Well, it depends on what the parents did. My parents kept me fairly innocent until I was like umm 11? I was usually at home before that cause TV was my life back then. I never new anything about most things. I thought the worst word in the english language was "stupid". I did believe in war, though. I don't deny most things. Mostly because I was gullible and still pretty am. I go to church a lot. Like twice a week. I learn things there as well as in school. My parents really didn't do anything to keep me "innocent" they just let me do my own thing while disciplining me when i did something bad. I chose to be somewhat innocent or whatever. I like doing good things and I try to stray from the bad things even now (15).
In my opinion, its not the parents' fault (fully) unless they really "brainwashed" him by teaching him certain values. I also believe it's the boy's fault for listening. I mean, he should have his own mind to think with. He should be developed enough for that. I can't really say what I think unless you say for sure and with facts not just a hunch that they actually did something or said something throughout his childhood. Even though it might look obvious, the parents might not have done that much. Some people choose not to believe certain things for whatever reason they have.
There's also the possibility that he's special? That's how my cousin is. He's thirty something and still acts like a child.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:46 pm
Shilberu Erikku Mayor Twihard I think that he needs to know these things. This can be considered brainwashing, but I dont think that it falls directly under psycological abuse unless the parents are deliberatly conditioning hin to get that response. Take it from me, it's obviuos they are. Unless you actually know the situation, and I mean know, not just hear wha the guy doesn't know, then you don't need to be saying things like that. It's called slander.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:48 pm
xXx_Gwee_xXx how can that 16 year old learn about social studies and history if he doesn't believe in war? that i just too childish. he has to grow up. maybe look some things up on google : D There are people who homeschool their children which means they can control what their child does and does not learn. Besides, there are a whole lot of people who don't believe the holocaust ever happened. I mean, there are people who STILL believe the earth is 6000 years old, despite all of the evidence to dispute it. Throw fanatical religious people into the mix (because that's generally the people who do it) and you will see some interesting things that are taught.
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