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HorsesOfTheNight

PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:31 pm


The first book we will be reading is Silent Spring by Rachel Carson.

Goals:
-To have chapters 1-5 read by 05/21.
-After we have read a set number of chapters we will dicuss them in this thread.
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:38 pm


Ok, got the pdf. Will have 1-5 finished by 5/21. This looks to be more fun than I'd thought...forgotten how cool this type of thing could be!

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 12:51 pm


Kyprian
Ok, got the pdf. Will have 1-5 finished by 5/21. This looks to be more fun than I'd thought...forgotten how cool this type of thing could be!


I picked a book that is creative non-fiction so that it would be more interesting to read.
PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:35 am


Just some quick notes about this book:
-Government organizations such as the EPA and DEP were non-existent at this time in history.
-Laws such as the Clean Water Act and the Clean Air Act were also non-existent at this time in history.

HorsesOfTheNight


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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:36 am


I really enjoyed reading the first five chapters of this book. Rachel Carson writes beautifully. I thought the first chapter was a great way to grab the attention of the reader. If she would have started off with facts I think some people might have stopped reading it after the first couple of pages.

In the second chapter Rachel Carson says “Nature has introduced great variety into the landscape, but man has displayed a passion for simplifying it (10).” This statement is very true. It does seem like people want reduce biodiversity in certain ecosystems. A good example of where biodiversity is being reduced is in lawns. I see people in my neighborhood putting ChemLawn on their yards to kill the “weeds” that occupy the yard with the grass. I personally like having biodiversity in my lawn. More biodiversity means that the ecosystem is stronger. Because my lawn has more biodiversity is remains green in the middle of the summer when all of the “perfect” lawns turn brown b/c of their lack of biodiversity.

I also liked Rachel Carson’s discussion of pesticides, herbicides, and insecticides. I can’t believe that is the 50’s and 60’s that they used chemicals such as DDT and arsenic to kill pests on crops. It is truly amazing how just a couple of ounces of some of these chemicals could kill and adult human within a couple of minutes. It was also very interesting to learn that these chemicals could destroy an entire food web.

Rachel Carson noted several times in the book that she did not want pesticides to be completely banned. She simply wanted these chemicals to be monitored carefully and to inform people of how deadly some of these chemicals could be. She also wanted people to know that these chemicals were having a negative impact on soil, surface water, and shallow groundwater wells (it is very difficult for pollutants to contaminate deep groundwater wells).

So what did you guys think of the first couple of chapters?
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:00 pm


HorsesOfTheNight
In the second chapter Rachel Carson says “Nature has introduced great variety into the landscape, but man has displayed a passion for simplifying it (10).” This statement is very true. It does seem like people want reduce biodiversity in certain ecosystems. A good example of where biodiversity is being reduced is in lawns. I see people in my neighborhood putting ChemLawn on their yards to kill the “weeds” that occupy the yard with the grass. I personally like having biodiversity in my lawn. More biodiversity means that the ecosystem is stronger. Because my lawn has more biodiversity is remains green in the middle of the summer when all of the “perfect” lawns turn brown b/c of their lack of biodiversity.

This is also true with farming. We now only eat a few different varieties of tomatoes and other fruits/vegetables. We've narrowed it down to those who can produce aesthetically pleasing end results. (Though, I prefer myself some wonderful carnival carrots over regular ole grocery store carrots.)

She also made a good point that if you have a mono crop, you're going to get more pests related to that particular crop. If you diversify, then those pests can't run rampant as they have competition/not a whole field of food.

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I also liked Rachel Carson’s discussion of pesticides, herbicides, and insecticides. I can’t believe that is the 50’s and 60’s that they used chemicals such as DDT and arsenic to kill pests on crops.

Oh come on, DDT is good for you! xd I was pretty shocked that they realized that DDT kills lice and then decided it was a good idea to spray soldiers with it. Absolutely no future thinking at all.


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So what did you guys think of the first couple of chapters?

I like her style of writing. With factual books I've found enjoyment really depends on how the author relays the information. If it's poorly relayed or tedious I'm not going to read it at all.

I highlighted a bunch of stuff; I'll have to go back through and post again with thoughts.

Chapters 6-10 by next week or ?

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HorsesOfTheNight

PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:34 pm


I was thinking chapters 6-11 by next Sat.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:15 pm


HorsesOfTheNight
I was thinking chapters 6-11 by next Sat.

Hey! Can we do them for this week? I am so sorry, but got caught up in a bunch of other stuff and before I knew it, it was Friday and I hadn't read a single thing. sweatdrop

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HorsesOfTheNight

PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:41 am


Sure! I had a busy week too. I also got a little behind. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:02 am


I've never been in a book club before, so I think I'll give this a shot. :3

I already got the .pdf and started on chapters 1-11, but I'm a slow reader, so I'd say that I -should- be caught up with you guys by this Saturday. ^^;

Edit: Scratch that. This is taking me a lot longer than I hoped.. ^^;

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:24 pm


Ok! So I have been reading, but I've been finding it difficult to remember what I've read to write here. xp

Soil - I found the soil chapter interesting. I wish it had gone more in depth with the soil, mostly because I'm really interested in how it affects plant health currently.

Can't remember the chapter, but the one where they powdered an entire city in pesticides. I would be absolutely livid if that happened to me. I can't believe they thought that was a good idea. I just can't believe how near sighted individuals in authoritative positions can be. It also makes me want to be a fly on the wall when they get pitched for the sale. rolleyes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:35 am


pirhan
Ok! So I have been reading, but I've been finding it difficult to remember what I've read to write here. xp

Soil - I found the soil chapter interesting. I wish it had gone more in depth with the soil, mostly because I'm really interested in how it affects plant health currently.

Can't remember the chapter, but the one where they powdered an entire city in pesticides. I would be absolutely livid if that happened to me. I can't believe they thought that was a good idea. I just can't believe how near sighted individuals in authoritative positions can be. It also makes me want to be a fly on the wall when they get pitched for the sale. rolleyes


Yeah, that was crazy how they thought nothing bad was going to the people who lived in those neighborhoods.

I will write more about the chapters when I get the time. My summer research project has been keeping me busy.

HorsesOfTheNight

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