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 Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:54 am
This is a bit of a rant, but I have become very fed up with this whole "pro-choice" nonsense.
If am sick of people claiming to be "pro-choice" being anti any choice but abortion. I have been told that my decision to have my child was the wrong one by many a "pro-choicer". Apparantly, if you have a sick child, you have no "choice" but to kill him. Also, if you are in college and get married and have a family you have made the "irresponsible choice" and should be condemed.
I know that there ARE some people who are pro-choice, but more and more I am running into "pro-aborts" or perhaps more abtly "anti-children" or "anti-nonperfect-children" and I am sick and tired of having to justify my decision to give my son life to these supposedly "open minded" individuals.
Feel free to post your expierences with those who are a far cry from "pro-choice".
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:00 am
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:05 am
I think it's slightly different then mine. Mine points out why telling us we have to be vegetarians who don't use antibiotics and don't step on bugs accidentally on the sidewalk in order to be "pro-life" is like telling them they have to support rape, child abuse, ,and theft in order to be "pro-choice." This one is more like, they're not really being pro-choice when they condemn certain choices.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:20 pm
lymelady I think it's slightly different then mine. Mine points out why telling us we have to be vegetarians who don't use antibiotics and don't step on bugs accidentally on the sidewalk in order to be "pro-life" is like telling them they have to support rape, child abuse, ,and theft in order to be "pro-choice." This one is more like, they're not really being pro-choice when they condemn certain choices. I dont think it's the same problem really. Broorel was talking about no-choice-choicers, who are more like pro-abortion than -choice. Lymelady, again was talking about the definition of pro-life and pro-choice.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:32 pm
I know that there ARE some people who are pro-choice, but more and more I am running into "pro-aborts" or perhaps more abtly "anti-children" or "anti-nonperfect-children" and I am sick and tired of having to justify my decision to give my son life to these supposedly "open minded" individuals.
You just made me remember that America might slowly be turning into something like Nazi Germany. We only want the perfect people now. They're so hypocritical saying women have rights to choose when it comes to keeping her child, and then they turn around and get pissed off at the ones who keep their children.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:47 pm
I'm not anti-choice, just agaisnt unjust killing. If it's not for self-denfence, surivival, and things like that then you have and shouldn't have a right to kill. I'm not stopping them (not my place to physically stop them) but that doesn't mean I can't speak my mind about it. Besides most seem pro-abortion and anti-adoption ( hey that's a choice too), not pro-choice. My family agree about that, they said they don't sound too pro-choice.
They got mad at when when I said it was population control, irresponasible and pratically murder (in my eyes anyways) not birth control. That is what the pills are, they prevent pregnancy not end it. Same for Morning after pills, you take them right away within a few hours before (if it ever does) attach itself to the uterous. Even then it's just a zygote with at the time is cells (difference between them and a fetus) which at the point don't have much problem but past that I do cause that's when it really starts to devolp. This is all just my personal opinons and beliefs.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:52 pm
I think the anti-children ones are just the most vocal, most obnoxious, and most intentionally offensive. The ones who are all "eww, whiny brats, let's kill 'em all!!" Mm-hm. Let's see if I can convince your mother infanticide is a good idea, kay? Ohhh, so you're an exception.... rolleyes
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:37 pm
I guess youre refering to "guest number one" rolleyes
I love how its "anti-choice" when you oppose abortion but its progressive thinking when you try to enact gun ownership restrictions or abolish the death penalty or various other restrictive laws (to a certain extent murder and theft etc)
If personal choice is the true crux of the issue why arent all pro-choicers anarchistic communists, where you can choose anything you want?
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:43 pm
Eh, I'd rather be a liberitarian than a communist. I'm sorry it's impossible for all people to be equal and classless and there is no point in trying to make it that way.
I still like my views when it comes to the death penalty. Either shoot them once the verdict is in or keep serial killers in solitarty until a person gets death that matches their target person. Then let the serial killer have their way.
Or at least do medicinal testing on them while we wait to kill them. They should be at least beneficial to society.
And if you touch my guns to take them from me you're gonna have a fight on your hands. I can toss this 100 lbs (I gained 5 lbs) body around.
And pro-abortion is also anti-choice.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:50 pm
Vivnox Eh, I'd rather be a liberitarian than a communist. I'm sorry it's impossible for all people to be equal and classless and there is no point in trying to make it that way. I still like my views when it comes to the death penalty. Either shoot them once the verdict is in or keep serial killers in solitarty until a person gets death that matches their target person. Then let the serial killer have their way. Or at least do medicinal testing on them while we wait to kill them. They should be at least beneficial to society. The problem with that is that, considering the fact that death is kinda final, we like to give them plenty of chances to prove their innocence before we carry out the verdict. As for the second two, there's this little thing called "cruel and unusual punishment" and it's kinda illegal. sweatdrop While I'd love to be able to treat murderers the way they treat other people, if you open that can of worms then you have to worry about it spreading; And reverting to cutting off the hands of thieves, or cutting out the tongues of perjurers, etc. Quote: And if you touch my guns to take them from me you're gonna have a fight on your hands. I can toss this 100 lbs (I gained 5 lbs) body around. Yay for the 5 lbs!
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 9:07 pm
Vivnox Or at least do medicinal testing on them while we wait to kill them. They should be at least beneficial to society. The British do this to murderes in which execution is th eonly out come. They give them a lethal enjection, and then remove the brain for medicle science. Or so I have heard...or perhaps thats only for traitors to the country. And as for my gin right. I only have one thing to say to the liberals tryign to take them away form me. You can have my gun the day you can dodge bulets.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:36 am
Vivnox Eh, I'd rather be a liberitarian than a communist. I'm sorry it's impossible for all people to be equal and classless and there is no point in trying to make it that way. I still like my views when it comes to the death penalty. Either shoot them once the verdict is in or keep serial killers in solitarty until a person gets death that matches their target person. Then let the serial killer have their way. Or at least do medicinal testing on them while we wait to kill them. They should be at least beneficial to society. And if you touch my guns to take them from me you're gonna have a fight on your hands. I can toss this 100 lbs (I gained 5 lbs) body around. And pro-abortion is also anti-choice. anarchistic communism goes a step (well a few steps) past libertarianism. Basically, no rules, no rulers, everyone fend for yourself.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:16 am
My favourite was the person who went off on me because I said I'd keep a child that was concieved through rape. Apparently I'm a tool because of it. XD
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:34 am
Yes, damn you and your compassion. You are a monster! twisted
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:05 am
Vivnox Eh, I'd rather be a liberitarian than a communist. I'm sorry it's impossible for all people to be equal and classless and there is no point in trying to make it that way. I still like my views when it comes to the death penalty. Either shoot them once the verdict is in or keep serial killers in solitarty until a person gets death that matches their target person. Then let the serial killer have their way. Or at least do medicinal testing on them while we wait to kill them. They should be at least beneficial to society. And if you touch my guns to take them from me you're gonna have a fight on your hands. I can toss this 100 lbs (I gained 5 lbs) body around. And pro-abortion is also anti-choice. What happens when, ten years down the road, we find through some new form of evidence (that is comparable to DNA testing today) that they're innocent? Sorta like now how we're releasing men from jail who have been there for 10 and 20 years only to find through DNA testing that he has committed no crime. Now we have a perfectly innocent man who has gone insane from a decade or two of solitary confinement, who have been beaten and mutilated by other prisoners, who lack organs they have a right to maintain regardless of their crime (I would argue that even criminals have a right to bodily integrity), and he or she is further mutilated from scientific experiments. And he was punished so severely without a chance for reprieve because of what? My opinion of the death penalty is ambiguous... I feel as if someone I know was murdered I'd want the murderer dead. But I also fear that if I were charged with murder (falsely, or I actually did it) I'd rather not die.
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