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Hiei Rising Dragon

PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 1:58 am


I've noticed something. It actually started quite a while ago when I first heard someone preaching the "bisexuality is a fad and isn't real" debate, but for the sake of breaking things down, I'll start with an incident last summer.

I was with a friend of mine, who is very openly gay, and was very lonely at the time. He's one of those types who always has to be in a relationship of some sort, so when we were handing out, a couple of us decided we'd try to introduce him to someone. He told us what he was looking for in a partner, and at one point, I asked him how he'd feel about dating a bisexual man, and his immediate answer was "No". When I asked him why, he said he'd never date a man who has touched a woman.

A couple months later, I was at the Queer-Straight Alliance at school and I don't recall what led up to the conversation, but I think it was another incidence of trying to fix someone up with a date. The person in question made an offhanded remark about dating a bisexual person, and the guy sitting by me said, very bluntly, "No. Bisexual people will break your heart."

Yet again, another conversation at school where we were discussing gay stereotypes. I recall a friend of mine saying that bisexual people were actually the most promiscuous as opposed to gay people.

Then we move on to what you read in reports and articles, about bisexuality being a fad. I'm not saying this is true, in fact, I wholeheartedly disagree with it. However, it's a very real argument. After I broke up with my last partner (who was bi), someone told me straight to my face that she wasn't really gay, she was just sexually experimenting and claiming to be gay. Yes, there is an entire story behind this, but you can imagine it's a bit painful and I don't want to go into it.

There's also the stereotype of bisexual people always being the ones to be in threesomes or polygamous relationships. Is this true? I don't know. I could tell you my personal experience, but that's not what I'm typing for.

The point being, I'm starting to feel that the ones being truly discriminated against are bisexuals, even more so than homosexuals since they seem to be shunned by both the gay and straight communities. However, as I said, I don't want to talk about my personal experiences here.

Let me make two things clear:
1. I am very, very, very, very, very homosexual. There is absolutely nothing about heterosexual intercourse that appeals to me. In fact, the thought kind of disgusts me. As such, I have no idea what it's like to have equal attraction to both sexes and have never experienced the discrimination I'm talking about firsthand.
2. My personal experiences are not yours. That's why I've made this thread. I've only lived in one state and only been on this earth for 20 years, I'm not even halfway through college.

That's why I've made this thread. I'd really like to know what others have experienced and what your thoughts are. Is bisexual discrimination a problem? Will it grow into one? If you are bi, have you ever experienced discrimination because you're bi?
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:52 am


I've never faced bisexual discrimination. I've seen a lot of comments - especially on Gaia - that are biphobic (wtf is that a word?) but I've never had to deal with it personally.
The reasoning of the discriminators goes beyond me. I'm a monoamorous pansexual, I haven't had a need to "experiment" with anyone to know who I am and who I'm attracted to, I've never cheated (but I have been cheated on and been an unofficial 'second one'), I don't want to have a three- or moresome and yet with that logic I should have had a billion partners considering I don't even settle with just two.
Hell, I'm 20 and I haven't even had sex yet, despite having been in relationships already.

It's fear of the unknown, incapability of understanding other people and the belief that one defines the rest of a group. None of the "facts" about bisexuals are true, except perhaps the fact that for many, bicuriosity is a phase in finding themselves and also a "fad" with many attentionwhores. True bisexuality exists however and we/they (depending whether you include pan- and polysexuals in the bi-group or not) are not different from any other sexuality, our/their wants are no more special than anyone else's and no trait defines us/them all aside the fact we/they are capable of feeling attraction to both sexes.

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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:36 pm


Bi is real, its just given that stereotype because of "bar-sexual" people.
Their the ones who do things like make out ect with members of the same sex, to gain attention from the oposite sex.

People dont want to date them because their labeled as sluts, or just experimenting.
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:01 pm


I've heard of bis being told they were "in a phase" the most, according to some of my friends. I suppose people would not belive that they are (partially?) homosexual because they still have that attraction to the opposite sex. It's really sad, how everyone (gays, straights, bis, trans, and everything I havent included) dsicrimiate against each other.

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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:42 pm


I am extremely bisexual. I have never cheated, never lied, and never hurt anyone. Quite frankly, it is indeed the opposite for me. No, I do not like threesomes or anything like that. I am not in a phase, although many think I am. I have never had sex before in my life, whether with female or male. True, I'm only 17, but I've had a few relationships with women, as well as with men. I suppose it is a bit of a problem, because many see us as experimenters and they seem to think we want to attract attention to ourselves. It's kind of like assuming gay men have high-pitched voices and lesbians wear mens clothing. I have indeed experienced discrimination. My best friend's ex boyfriend of about two days ago didn't like her hanging out with me, as she is bisexual as well. At one point, he thought she was cheating on him with me. My Mother treats me like an alien. I suppose maybe it's just my opinion, but I don't think we're any different from gays, lesbians, trannies, or any other kind of description of our sexuality.
PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:45 pm


Personally I have said I don't know whether there is truly bi-sexuality...like I've come across a lot of bisexual men who say they are bisexuals and turn up later in life to simply go as gay, same with some of my girl friends who say they are bisexual but in then end they either identify themselves as a lesbian or simply just stay heterosexual....a lot of the female bisexuals I know have almost entirely dated men and maybe one or two girls compared to the six or seven guys they dated, and then the male bisexuals who have dated maybe one or two girls and have tons of boyfriends and have had sex with only men....now I have not met any "real" bisexuals but in my experience the bisexuals I've known favor one gender over the other and in the end just stick with the favored gender. Then I've also met bisexuals who say they like the same gender but when I try to hook them up with one they freak out saying they don't want to, which leads me to believe that they are not really a bisexual. As for those other things I don't think so like there are probably people like that but not all bisexuals want that only those who give bisexuals a bad name just like the homosexuals who give us a bad name and make straight people believe we're all having an orgy in any LGBT club.

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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:10 pm


In my experience, I've noticed that the people who hate us bis tend to be either of the following:

1. The people that are the TYPE of christian that's both homophobic and sexphobic.

2. Femminists (the really radical type)

3. Gays that either have attachment issues or are desperate for attention.

Also, part of it might be stemmed from the human obsession to put people into EXTREMELY DEFINATE categories, which is one of the reasons people tend to stereotype things. So when something tends to fit into more than one of of these "definate" categories, retaliation from miscellanophobia (the fear of randomness) occurs.
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 4:34 am


ive seena bit of bisexual discrimination. most of it being people assuming i have lots of sex with different people

i am worried sometimes that people may think im faking being bi since ive never had much sexual interaction with women but thats becasue of my own insecurities. no one has ever called me barsexual that i know of.

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 4:59 am


Im bi Sexual and i have had encounters and relationships with both sexes. When you think of being bi, you can break it down as you like both equally; One a bit more than the other. I have had plenty of discrimination as being a black Bi Male. I have been shunned like a leper before. I have also been turned down by guys and girls that i have liked because of my Bi Status. To be technical im a Poly-Amorous Bi Sexual. I have noticed that Blacks hate me because of my Bi status and Gays hate me somewhat because of my Bi status.
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:47 am


I'm bisexual and the people who know always ask how many I've been with and yada yada. I know one girl who won't even so much glance my way because she thinks I'm a whore and that I'm just "part of the trend." I'm just like "Oh.. >__>"

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Eyes of Blue Fire

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 5:35 pm


I was bi for about a year two years ago, or confused, so bi was my only consideration at the time. I saw it as my experimental stage, yes, but I knew that I was really attracted to girls. Nothing about herterosexual intimacy is interesting to me, except my friends', but not in a romantic way. I faced alot of hardships with discrimination here, and I think that it's messed up, because as I clearly show, lesbians aren't all that much different as far as relationship thinking because my thoughts on relationships are the exact SAME as they were when I first started experimenting. My parents were the worst about it, believing bisexuality to be a phase that I would eventually get over and be straight in a few months. My girlfriend and I are both lesbians, but it's not because I believe bisexuals are loose and want more partners. I've met an equal amount of homosexuals, bisexuals, and heterosexuals who have had multiple partners at once. Yes, it's a discrimination problem. Hope I was of help to you. :3
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:14 pm


Eyes of Blue Fire
I was bi for about a year two years ago, or confused, so bi was my only consideration at the time. I saw it as my experimental stage, yes, but I knew that I was really attracted to girls. Nothing about herterosexual intimacy is interesting to me, except my friends', but not in a romantic way. I faced alot of hardships with discrimination here, and I think that it's messed up, because as I clearly show, lesbians aren't all that much different as far as relationship thinking because my thoughts on relationships are the exact SAME as they were when I first started experimenting. My parents were the worst about it, believing bisexuality to be a phase that I would eventually get over and be straight in a few months. My girlfriend and I are both lesbians, but it's not because I believe bisexuals are loose and want more partners. I've met an equal amount of homosexuals, bisexuals, and heterosexuals who have had multiple partners at once. Yes, it's a discrimination problem. Hope I was of help to you. :3

Wait, so, you never were interested in men at all? So... why did you think you were bisexual? D:

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Eyes of Blue Fire

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:18 pm


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I was bi for about a year two years ago, or confused, so bi was my only consideration at the time. I saw it as my experimental stage, yes, but I knew that I was really attracted to girls. Nothing about herterosexual intimacy is interesting to me, except my friends', but not in a romantic way. I faced alot of hardships with discrimination here, and I think that it's messed up, because as I clearly show, lesbians aren't all that much different as far as relationship thinking because my thoughts on relationships are the exact SAME as they were when I first started experimenting. My parents were the worst about it, believing bisexuality to be a phase that I would eventually get over and be straight in a few months. My girlfriend and I are both lesbians, but it's not because I believe bisexuals are loose and want more partners. I've met an equal amount of homosexuals, bisexuals, and heterosexuals who have had multiple partners at once. Yes, it's a discrimination problem. Hope I was of help to you. :3

Wait, so, you never were interested in men at all? So... why did you think you were bisexual? D:


I was attracted to both. Initially I was interested in men, but due to a series of events that lie too personal for me to speak of, my trust and my attraction faded to see that really, all I am, or ever could be interested in, are women. And as of about a year and a half, it's been one woman in particular. Thank GOD she took me about half a year into a pitiful crush. Or else I don't know what I would do.
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:27 pm


Eyes of Blue Fire
I was attracted to both. Initially I was interested in men, but due to a series of events that lie too personal for me to speak of, my trust and my attraction faded to see that really, all I am, or ever could be interested in, are women. And as of about a year and a half, it's been one woman in particular. Thank GOD she took me about half a year into a pitiful crush. Or else I don't know what I would do.

Ah, thanks for clearing that for me. whee

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Eyes of Blue Fire

PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 6:30 pm


Chakatai Khan
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I was attracted to both. Initially I was interested in men, but due to a series of events that lie too personal for me to speak of, my trust and my attraction faded to see that really, all I am, or ever could be interested in, are women. And as of about a year and a half, it's been one woman in particular. Thank GOD she took me about half a year into a pitiful crush. Or else I don't know what I would do.

Ah, thanks for clearing that for me. whee


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