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 Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:07 pm
Just a spot o' thought on the entire matter of drinking and the like. I cannot think of one reason to go with it what's not either horrendously stupid or just pathetic.
Legitimate reasons to drink? You're a pathetic excuse for a sentient being who needs to throw away rationality for some reason or another. Usually something along the lines of severe depression formed from incompetent morons hitting a new low, insecure twits who rely on it for social interaction, or something along those lines.
Stupid ones? There are dumbasses out there who'll ******** up their bodies just to see what it's like. Generally those too timid to attempt something masochistic, yet still wanting to degrade themselves for no particularly good reason.
O' course, now, I've gotta also disagree with myself in one area. It mostly stems around wine. There are people who have enough money to toss it around on something needlessly extravagant, and do so with expensive wines'n the like. I do suppose there are those who simply enjoy the taste, but I'd still laugh at any one of those who would be so incompetent as to overdo it.
Or really spend all that much on it. As there's almost certainly something else which effects the taste buds in a similar fashion whilst not requiring such resources or provoking such aftereffects,
An ending statement would probably be along the lines of "An overwhelming majority of those who would even touch something as base as alcohol are truly pitiable creatures, for reasons of inadequacy or stupidity."
Expand or retort, if you would.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:18 pm
How do you always manage to say exactly what I think in the manner I'm afraid to say it in? xp
It's strange, I suppose, that I have such views on alcohol. I don't know any alcoholics. I haven't seen families get torn apart by drunk parents or innocent victims hit and killed by drunk drivers. And I could count the number of times I remember my parents having any on one hand. But then again, one shouldn't need to have personal experience with a matter to have an opinion on it, especially one as society-ruining as alcohol. Still doesn't explain why I have such strong feelings about it that your post could have been mine were I a little bit bolder, but what can you do?
While I believe in the "your body, your choice" philosophy, it only extends to things that don't hurt anyone else. Alcohol has killed countless non-drinkers and ruined the lives of many more. And let's be fair here: people have different views on what "moderation" is. One person's "social drinking" is another person's "drunk off my a**". And technically speaking, any amount can muddle the mind and/or launch addiction. If you ask me, drinking is just a bad thing all around. Plain and simple.
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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:58 pm
I personally don't see anything wrong with drinking, as long as one is prepared to not drive and is in a safe environment. But my parents also raised me that way. When a person knows they get violent and do terrible things while drinking, they should stop. But as long as nothing harmful comes out of it, I think it's fine.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:18 am
I suppose being sensible with the matter is the most important part. This may also apply for all other drugs and drug-like substances (what falls into these categories is another discussion). For some people, this may mean to never begin with it in the first place.
Whether or not you drink, I suppose I can respect you. As long as you can make it without alcohol.
Personally: I am a pathetic animal who drink alcohol. I like the taste of beer, cider or champagne. But I am slightly curious 'bout that expensive high class beer which may be fairly common in and around the German area.
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Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:06 am
But why take the risk of potentially causing something negative for.... Well, basically nothing?
If I felt like throwing grenades into a golf course, nothing goes wrong so long as no unsuspecting golfers come by and get hit, right? I mean, I'm potentially putting a good number of people's lives at risk, forcing them to use more caution, and overall gaining nothing out of it, but there's no real downside, right?
There's nothing wrong with drinking so long as you're prepared not to drive in the same way that there's nothing wrong with lobbing live grenades so long as you're prepared not to attempt to throw them directly at someone.
And for the taste, with sensibility, is perfectly acceptable. A good number of cultures are entitled to it, it's part of the society, and they have a way that it works. However, if any man from a beer centered country were to act in some unsavory way due to the ale, it wouldn't be right to count him as above it all.
I do enjoy the fact that no atrocities were caused by it, though. At least I hope there weren't.
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:32 pm
You do know that you don't have to get drunk, right?
My church offers libations of Eight Purification Sake at New Years and the monthly purification Matsuri for health and of course for Izuchi-sama. Mind you it's just a small drink, and there's nothing wrong with that.
In fact I'm far too lazy to bring up all that research about drinking wine for vein health, or how drunks live longer.
I hate drunks, but life isn't so black and white.
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:41 pm
Honney Boy You do know that you don't have to get drunk, right? My church offers libations of Eight Purification Sake at New Years and the monthly purification Matsuri for health and of course for Izuchi-sama. Mind you it's just a small drink, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact I'm far too lazy to bring up all that research about drinking wine for vein health, or how drunks live longer. I hate drunks, but life isn't so black and white. M'thinks that I went some way to imply that I never would. Which would further imply that, yes, I know that. Shinto? People who get sick alot early in life have healthier immune systems. There are a trifle few things that are, in fact, black'n white.
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:45 pm
Divine_Malevolence Honney Boy You do know that you don't have to get drunk, right? My church offers libations of Eight Purification Sake at New Years and the monthly purification Matsuri for health and of course for Izuchi-sama. Mind you it's just a small drink, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact I'm far too lazy to bring up all that research about drinking wine for vein health, or how drunks live longer. I hate drunks, but life isn't so black and white. M'thinks that I went some way to imply that I never would. Which would further imply that, yes, I know that. Shinto? People who get sick alot early in life have healthier immune systems. There are a trifle few things that are, in fact, black'n white. Your ranting implies that the only reason to drink is to get drunk, and since getting drunk is for losers, bring back Prohibition. Most religions, Catholics, Jews, Shintoist, just to name a few, have ceremonial libations. Telling them they can't do that or they'll get drunk and be stupid seems a bit strange to me. (Also the gods do like a nice libation.)
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:53 pm
Honney Boy Divine_Malevolence Honney Boy You do know that you don't have to get drunk, right? My church offers libations of Eight Purification Sake at New Years and the monthly purification Matsuri for health and of course for Izuchi-sama. Mind you it's just a small drink, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact I'm far too lazy to bring up all that research about drinking wine for vein health, or how drunks live longer. I hate drunks, but life isn't so black and white. M'thinks that I went some way to imply that I never would. Which would further imply that, yes, I know that. Shinto? People who get sick alot early in life have healthier immune systems. There are a trifle few things that are, in fact, black'n white. Your ranting implies that the only reason to drink is to get drunk, and since getting drunk is for losers, bring back Prohibition. Most religions, Catholics, Jews, Shintoist, just to name a few, have ceremonial libations. Telling them they can't do that or they'll get drunk and be stupid seems a bit strange to me. (Also the gods do like a nice libation.) I stated that most reasons are as such, being caused by either stupidity or insecurity, and never mentioned any restoration of law what are destined by nature to fail. I mean, perhaps I might enforce prohibition should I ever take over the world, but that would be done by constantly monitoring the BAC of everyone alive and causing the instant injection of a deadly neurotoxin should it go above .05. And you're really speaking to the wrong person if you want to bring in religion as something that would be damaged by my actions. That sort of incentive will do anything but dissuade.
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:56 pm
Divine_Malevolence Honney Boy Divine_Malevolence Honney Boy You do know that you don't have to get drunk, right? My church offers libations of Eight Purification Sake at New Years and the monthly purification Matsuri for health and of course for Izuchi-sama. Mind you it's just a small drink, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact I'm far too lazy to bring up all that research about drinking wine for vein health, or how drunks live longer. I hate drunks, but life isn't so black and white. M'thinks that I went some way to imply that I never would. Which would further imply that, yes, I know that. Shinto? People who get sick alot early in life have healthier immune systems. There are a trifle few things that are, in fact, black'n white. Your ranting implies that the only reason to drink is to get drunk, and since getting drunk is for losers, bring back Prohibition. Most religions, Catholics, Jews, Shintoist, just to name a few, have ceremonial libations. Telling them they can't do that or they'll get drunk and be stupid seems a bit strange to me. (Also the gods do like a nice libation.) I stated that most reasons are as such, being caused by either stupidity or insecurity, and never mentioned any restoration of law what are destined by nature to fail. I mean, perhaps I might enforce prohibition should I ever take over the world, but that would be done by constantly monitoring the BAC of everyone alive and causing the instant injection of a deadly neurotoxin should it go above .05. And you're really speaking to the wrong person if you want to bring in religion as something that would be damaged by my actions. That sort of incentive will do anything but dissuade. Yes, gods forbid you care about the people involved. After all if it weren't for them getting in the way all the time... If you're not working towards fascism, then what was your point? "Drunks are bad?"
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:03 pm
Honney Boy Divine_Malevolence Honney Boy Divine_Malevolence Honney Boy You do know that you don't have to get drunk, right? My church offers libations of Eight Purification Sake at New Years and the monthly purification Matsuri for health and of course for Izuchi-sama. Mind you it's just a small drink, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact I'm far too lazy to bring up all that research about drinking wine for vein health, or how drunks live longer. I hate drunks, but life isn't so black and white. M'thinks that I went some way to imply that I never would. Which would further imply that, yes, I know that. Shinto? People who get sick alot early in life have healthier immune systems. There are a trifle few things that are, in fact, black'n white. Your ranting implies that the only reason to drink is to get drunk, and since getting drunk is for losers, bring back Prohibition. Most religions, Catholics, Jews, Shintoist, just to name a few, have ceremonial libations. Telling them they can't do that or they'll get drunk and be stupid seems a bit strange to me. (Also the gods do like a nice libation.) I stated that most reasons are as such, being caused by either stupidity or insecurity, and never mentioned any restoration of law what are destined by nature to fail. I mean, perhaps I might enforce prohibition should I ever take over the world, but that would be done by constantly monitoring the BAC of everyone alive and causing the instant injection of a deadly neurotoxin should it go above .05. And you're really speaking to the wrong person if you want to bring in religion as something that would be damaged by my actions. That sort of incentive will do anything but dissuade. Yes, gods forbid you care about the people involved. After all if it weren't for them getting in the way all the time... If you're not working towards fascism, then what was your point? "Drunks are bad?" "Drunks are morons in nearly every way." Sometimes, people don't work toward anything. And there are some people who I just can't care about. Those who willingly intoxicate themselves or outright refuse to think with any logic are deserving of apathy. Surpassed most notably by rapists, who I'd murder by stringing them up by a noose and leaving them with their feet on the floor until they eventually pass out due to natural sleep deprivation and hang. Something tells me that it'd take a very long time for them to die in such a way.
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:05 pm
Putting religion aside, I drink casually. One here one there, never going overboard. I wouldn't allow myself to get drunk because I couldn't forgive myself if something happened while I couldn't decide properly.
Part of that reason is because my grandmother used to be an alcoholic way before my time, and another is that I see me friends going and doing idiotic things while drunk. ><;;
That said, to each their own, tbh. I'm not gonna judge them for going and getting smashed, that's their business owob
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:09 pm
Divine_Malevolence Honney Boy Divine_Malevolence Honney Boy Divine_Malevolence Honney Boy You do know that you don't have to get drunk, right? My church offers libations of Eight Purification Sake at New Years and the monthly purification Matsuri for health and of course for Izuchi-sama. Mind you it's just a small drink, and there's nothing wrong with that. In fact I'm far too lazy to bring up all that research about drinking wine for vein health, or how drunks live longer. I hate drunks, but life isn't so black and white. M'thinks that I went some way to imply that I never would. Which would further imply that, yes, I know that. Shinto? People who get sick alot early in life have healthier immune systems. There are a trifle few things that are, in fact, black'n white. Your ranting implies that the only reason to drink is to get drunk, and since getting drunk is for losers, bring back Prohibition. Most religions, Catholics, Jews, Shintoist, just to name a few, have ceremonial libations. Telling them they can't do that or they'll get drunk and be stupid seems a bit strange to me. (Also the gods do like a nice libation.) I stated that most reasons are as such, being caused by either stupidity or insecurity, and never mentioned any restoration of law what are destined by nature to fail. I mean, perhaps I might enforce prohibition should I ever take over the world, but that would be done by constantly monitoring the BAC of everyone alive and causing the instant injection of a deadly neurotoxin should it go above .05. And you're really speaking to the wrong person if you want to bring in religion as something that would be damaged by my actions. That sort of incentive will do anything but dissuade. Yes, gods forbid you care about the people involved. After all if it weren't for them getting in the way all the time... If you're not working towards fascism, then what was your point? "Drunks are bad?" "Drunks are morons in nearly every way." Sometimes, people don't work toward anything. And there are some people who I just can't care about. Those who willingly intoxicate themselves or outright refuse to think with any logic are deserving of apathy. Surpassed most notably by rapists, who I'd murder by stringing them up by a noose and leaving them with their feet on the floor until they eventually pass out due to natural sleep deprivation and hang. Something tells me that it'd take a very long time for them to die in such a way. Yet you're the one who would choose a name akin to "Hound of the Gods." Not surprising. And yet, there are people who will never do anything in this world who will never touch a drop of the bad bad juice. For example, one person who, if nothing else managed to change the world was a virgin, a vegan, and a pacifist. Yet if you went around saying that if people put there energy into changing the world like that Mr.Hitler did, you'd get some odd looks. So, I take it you're of the "Rule the world on top of a pile of corpses rather than be a the bottom of your corpse pile" sort then. Drunks are bad. I agree, but I guess you don't live around meth addicts.
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:20 pm
I'm assuming you mean my screenname, which means "Ill will of the gods". It was inspired by a want for an oxymoron combined with something of a love for mythology.
Religion in any work of fiction can prove to be exhilarating. Especially when the gods exist in said work of fiction.
There are smart people in the world. This is not unknown to me.
Vegans defy nature.
No, my plot to rule the world involves actions which would attempt to avoid casualties altogether. There would be a possibility for massive amounts of casualties, but success would be measured on how much everyone else sought to avoid that.
I would put meth addicts in a padded cell and tape them going through withdrawal. That would be fun.
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:26 pm
Divine_Malevolence I'm assuming you mean my screenname, which means "Ill will of the gods". It was inspired by a want for an oxymoron combined with something of a love for mythology. Religion in any work of fiction can prove to be exhilarating. Especially when the gods exist in said work of fiction. There are smart people in the world. This is not unknown to me. Vegans defy nature. No, my plot to rule the world involves actions which would attempt to avoid casualties altogether. There would be a possibility for massive amounts of casualties, but success would be measured on how much everyone else sought to avoid that. I would put meth addicts in a padded cell and tape them going through withdrawal. That would be fun. I take it you don't say these things out loud.
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