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 Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:36 pm
Now this... kind of pisses me off...
I understand it was a survey, but do we really need a survey pretending to be pregnant when this is an epidemic all over the country? To me, since I had a baby at 18, this seems kind of disrespectful.
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:12 pm
I'm a little annoyed too. Don't pretend your prank is altruistic in nature stressed
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:15 pm
God your posts are always missing the point...It wasnt a survery nor a prank, it was her dedicated to finding out the stereotypes of teen pregnancy in order to do some sort of paper for a social experiment.
I think what she did was admirable.
She's going to go far.
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:49 pm
Call Me Apple God your posts are always missing the point...It wasnt a survery nor a prank, it was her dedicated to finding out the stereotypes of teen pregnancy in order to do some sort of paper for a social experiment. I think what she did was admirable. She's going to go far. Thing is the resources and information of what she claimed to seek are well documented. Just because not every community has those resources available makes for a poor indicator that people are ill-informed or lack "research". The reasons those resources aren't there vary. The funds may not exist, or the resources are close enough that "saturating" like that is problematic, or there's even the possibility of zoning laws. Besides, how well did she document her "research"? What was the hypothesis? How did she collect data? How can her information be applied in a practical way for an organization like, let's say, Planned Parenthood? Yeah, real altruistic! She was out to fool people whether you feel it was altruistic or not. She convinced her peers and teachers she was pregnant then announced, "Ta-da! I fooled you!" in front of the whole school. The concept of a prank is to trick people, though we like to think of it today as something playful. Pranks are not always meant to be playful. My reason for using prank falls under the premise that it was meant to deceive for pretty much personal gain that isn't all that benevolent.
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:10 pm
4shi She was out to fool people whether you feel it was altruistic or not. She convinced her peers and teachers she was pregnant then announced, "Ta-da! I fooled you!" in front of the whole school. The concept of a prank is to trick people, though we like to think of it today as something playful. Pranks are not always meant to be playful. My reason for using prank falls under the premise that it was meant to deceive for pretty much personal gain that isn't all that benevolent. When you participate in psych experiments at university, you get used to them saying "Now, we told you that this experiment was about blah, but it was actually about...." very quickly. It's extremely common to use deception in the fields of psych and sociology. In fact after two or three of them you go in with the expectation that the experiment is about something different than their original claims, and spend time trying to guess what it is. Accurate results may genuinely hinge on successful deception, so they ask you questions afterwards about whether or not you'd guessed it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:44 am
4shi Thing is the resources and information of what she claimed to seek are well documented
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:18 am
Sanguina Cruenta 4shi She was out to fool people whether you feel it was altruistic or not. She convinced her peers and teachers she was pregnant then announced, "Ta-da! I fooled you!" in front of the whole school. The concept of a prank is to trick people, though we like to think of it today as something playful. Pranks are not always meant to be playful. My reason for using prank falls under the premise that it was meant to deceive for pretty much personal gain that isn't all that benevolent. When you participate in psych experiments at university, you get used to them saying "Now, we told you that this experiment was about blah, but it was actually about...." very quickly. It's extremely common to use deception in the fields of psych and sociology. In fact after two or three of them you go in with the expectation that the experiment is about something different than their original claims, and spend time trying to guess what it is. Accurate results may genuinely hinge on successful deception, so they ask you questions afterwards about whether or not you'd guessed it. But you willing participate in a university experiment. She didn't perform her study on the willing. When you watch teh video she admits this. Plus, there is no indication this was for an assignment. I ask what her hypothesis is. No one can provide it. It was "what is it like". You don't have to look very far to find that out. She didn't need to fake it. With that in mind it seems less well-intentioned.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:02 am
She wanted to know for herself.
Several who reads books and/or statistics of it still don't understands what it truly means.
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:48 am
Could have been worse, she could have actually gotten pregnant for her curiosity and aborted it when she was through. At least people aren't going that far...
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:48 pm
Insatiable Design Could have been worse, she could have actually gotten pregnant for her curiosity and aborted it when she was through. At least people aren't going that far...
This is why we need sex ed that kids will actually learn from... Not cut it from schools because it's a touchy subject...
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Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:56 pm
Aakosir Insatiable Design Could have been worse, she could have actually gotten pregnant for her curiosity and aborted it when she was through. At least people aren't going that far...
This is why we need sex ed that kids will actually learn from... Not cut it from schools because it's a touchy subject...I don't think there's that many actually abusing abortion, but you're right about sex ed. Schools need to teach more than abstinence and light run downs of reproductive organs. I think that would help remove some of the stigma as well for teen parents, because it changes the whole attitude toward sex.
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:06 am
Insatiable Design Aakosir Insatiable Design Could have been worse, she could have actually gotten pregnant for her curiosity and aborted it when she was through. At least people aren't going that far...
This is why we need sex ed that kids will actually learn from... Not cut it from schools because it's a touchy subject...I don't think there's that many actually abusing abortion, but you're right about sex ed. Schools need to teach more than abstinence and light run downs of reproductive organs. I think that would help remove some of the stigma as well for teen parents, because it changes the whole attitude toward sex.
The whole "sex is taboo" is not helping at all... If parents could open up more and not be embarrassed discussing it with their kids, I think would help a lot. I could tell my mom anything. I don't see how it is so hard to have a good relationship with your kids, but I know there are parents who just have no clue. Maybe combined classes with teens and parents would help open up that gap.
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:13 am
4shi She was out to fool people whether you feel it was altruistic or not. She convinced her peers and teachers she was pregnant then announced, "Ta-da! I fooled you!" in front of the whole school. The concept of a prank is to trick people, though we like to think of it today as something playful. Pranks are not always meant to be playful. My reason for using prank falls under the premise that it was meant to deceive for pretty much personal gain that isn't all that benevolent. Six months though for a prank? And having to put up with the social stigmas and stereotypes that entire time? Personally I fail to see how any type of gain could possibly make up for what she had to deal with being seen as a teen mom. I'm with Call Me Apple here. Sometimes if you really want to bring an issue into the light you have to dive right in to the issue at hand. I can't remember her name but there was a journalist earlier in the century whom faked being psychotic in order to get admitted into a psych ward and find out what conditions were really like. Obviously no one was listening to the patients, so it took someone from the outside getting into a role and finding out what life was really like for them. I don't think we're far off here either. No one's obviously listening to the teen moms enough to make a change in the social stigmas and the way we treat them, so what will happen now that someone that wasn't actually pregnant exposed the behavior? At the very least, it'll bring more attention to the issue than the teen moms themselves did.
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Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:03 am
Lateralus es Helica 4shi She was out to fool people whether you feel it was altruistic or not. She convinced her peers and teachers she was pregnant then announced, "Ta-da! I fooled you!" in front of the whole school. The concept of a prank is to trick people, though we like to think of it today as something playful. Pranks are not always meant to be playful. My reason for using prank falls under the premise that it was meant to deceive for pretty much personal gain that isn't all that benevolent. Six months though for a prank? And having to put up with the social stigmas and stereotypes that entire time? Personally I fail to see how any type of gain could possibly make up for what she had to deal with being seen as a teen mom. I'm with Call Me Apple here. Sometimes if you really want to bring an issue into the light you have to dive right in to the issue at hand. I can't remember her name but there was a journalist earlier in the century whom faked being psychotic in order to get admitted into a psych ward and find out what conditions were really like. Obviously no one was listening to the patients, so it took someone from the outside getting into a role and finding out what life was really like for them. I don't think we're far off here either. No one's obviously listening to the teen moms enough to make a change in the social stigmas and the way we treat them, so what will happen now that someone that wasn't actually pregnant exposed the behavior? At the very least, it'll bring more attention to the issue than the teen moms themselves did.
The guys could be all talk and no support, like my husband was. They could have been raped, which in that case I would have aborted... It would have caused too much emotional stress to carry the baby then give it up for adoption. I think there's a book my mom read like that. Then there could be those stupid cases where it's "it's not going to happen to me". Or just from plain ignorance.
It's more like a stereotype than stigma, I think. And we all know about stereotypes... But anyways, I think the issues is on both sides, not just one. The teens aren't listening to the facts and warnings and society will never listen to anyone, but the media... And I don't understand how a pretender will get the word out any better than those who actually lived it and are still living it.
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