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 Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:43 am
Σnter: Ҥʘɭɭɵψ ЯӭdempϮiσӥ ▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄
→ ✛ Like she couldn't say that to me in a not-so-monotone-voice.Though,it wasn't even my choice to go to her nor was too happy that i had to go but now i have her telling me that a girl my age is depressed?I don't understand her at all,not to mention she keeps saying that i have a anger or 'resentment'(as she calls it) to my childhood and will not accept the fact that i'm the person i am now.
She asked about what happiness is and when i answered her,i was wrong.I don't understand on how i was wrong i thought my answer was pretty good,"I think 'Happiness' is something of a personal matter to me,i make myself happy by what i do and your definition of 'Happiness' is what means makes you smile and give you joy.Everyone's 'Happiness' is different"Though, i guess in a nutshell i was wrong because she told me,
"Happiness is your self image.A portrait that you paint all by yourself,this by no means your alone in painting,the world is like a big empty canvas for you to mark yourself on the world.Happiness is one definition and can only be expressed by you 'good' actions and the lifestyle you have."
Oh,so im wrong and i'm not saying the definition of Happiness right?Sometimes i just don't know what to do with myself and her,all the things i say come back to bite me and she seems to have a remark to even the little... insignificant parts on my daily activities.✛ ←
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:04 am
neutral psychologists are supposed have empathy, least from what I have learned, toward their patients. That monotone thing is ridiculous.
And she making "happiness" sound like a career path. I understand that one person may need to take a path to get to happiness but "to mark yourself in the world" makes her sound like a guidance counselor at a high school.
neutral Can you reduce her pay for making you waste your time?
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:30 am
Personally, I don't think you were because technically what she said was more or less the same thing that you meant, she was just being a jerk by playing around words with you.
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:40 am
Its odd that she talked about self-image cause it sounds like she's ruining yours.
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:32 pm
pirulaso Its odd that she talked about self-image cause it sounds like she's ruining yours. Hahahaha she is.
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:54 pm
Typical psychologist to me. I've been to more than one and they're all the same. They say I have manic depression and all they want to do with me is put me on pills. You tell them they don't work so they think a different pill will. They think they know what your going through and according to them "they know how you feel". I quit going to mine and gave up on them.
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:31 pm
Ignore her.. psychologists are like depression medication, you sometimes have to try a few out before you find the right one. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:01 am
Psychology in itself is a stupid science. A science which seeks to segregate shades of gray into black and white. According to my therapists, I have ADHD. According to everyone else I've spoken to, I'm just in touch with my inner child. I think people just need to realize that sciences in general are neither helpful nor desirable to humanity in its whole. All it does is further seek to influence the decisions and thoughts of the people it is taught to. Yes it is helpful to many issues we encounter in life, but to believe in it almost as a religion (in the sense that it is always right) is absolutely ludicrous even to the point of laughability especially those who are nontheist/atheist as the very "proofs" they choose to "disprove" religion are the very ones that "disprove" their own belief system (science). All psychology is just an easy way to control us for the government and an easy explanation to why people do things for the people. Quoting Dr. King: "Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think."
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:33 pm
She means that each event that occurs in your life... anything, like your car breaks down, your mom writes her signature very large on a family Christmas card, your pencil lead is becoming thick and dull... anything... is just a matter of perception on whether it's "good" or "bad." Everything is truly neutral until you give them power. Mostly, it's not a matter of choice. The way we are born and raised in this universe, and learning different things about economics and time constraint and the value of money, it's very difficult to see your car breaking down as a good thing.
But it's comparable on what makes a phobia. A phobia is an irrational fear. There isn't a term for it, (as far as I'm aware), but I think your therapist feels you have irrational hatred, loathing, or sadness over events that seem irrational. Now, if your car broke down, it would be fairly rational to hate that, but it is still a neutral event. It really has no power unless you, by habit, choose to become upset over it.
Now, if teenagers with their petty insults and immature ways are giving you grief, and you choose to dwell on it and see it as a bad thing, then you are giving it power. Your therapist believes that this is irrational. Now, most unenlightened adults would tell you that getting worked up over not having friends is completely rational and normal. Indeed, to an unenlightened teenager, it would be. But you want to be better than that, don't you? Well, the point your therapist is attempting to get across is to look outside the box at everything. You (hypothetically) are getting upset over not having friends, but this isn't based on good rationale or even psychological needs. It's based on the way we were raised. If a baby was born in a vacuum and never had any friends all of its life, it would be perfectly content living its life that way as long as its needs were met. This is because the baby's mental state is unaltered to the outside world.
Now, there are more superficial things that many people worry about, and the more superficial we get, the less enlightened you'd have to be to say that it's bad to get worried about it. For example, a girl with anorexia has had her perception so warped by society, she'd have to starve herself to obtain an image of beauty. But many people who aren't anorexic would look at her and say "You're beautiful the way you are! You don't have to starve yourself!" But the girl can't see things outside the box and chooses to starve herself. That's why she needs a psychologist to help change her perspective to focus on less superficial aspects.
Are the things I'm saying making sense?
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:47 pm
maui boy no ka oi Psychology in itself is a stupid science. A science which seeks to segregate shades of gray into black and white. According to my therapists, I have ADHD. According to everyone else I've spoken to, I'm just in touch with my inner child. I think people just need to realize that sciences in general are neither helpful nor desirable to humanity in its whole. All it does is further seek to influence the decisions and thoughts of the people it is taught to. Yes it is helpful to many issues we encounter in life, but to believe in it almost as a religion (in the sense that it is always right) is absolutely ludicrous even to the point of laughability especially those who are nontheist/atheist as the very "proofs" they choose to "disprove" religion are the very ones that "disprove" their own belief system (science). All psychology is just an easy way to control us for the government and an easy explanation to why people do things for the people. Quoting Dr. King: "Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think." I'm calling bullshit on this. To start with, you said "Therapists," meaning more than one. But you wouldn't have more than one therapist, because their advice could be conflicting. A psychologist also wouldn't tell you that you have ADHD. That would be a psychiatrist or a general practitioner. Being in touch with your inner child isn't the same as ADHD. I have ADHD, and if you had it you'd know it's really a struggle. Calvin from "Calvin and Hobbes" didn't necessarily have ADHD if his personality is the image you're getting from the diagnosis. Psychology is hardly a "science." It's actually the study of the human mind and how it reacts in different situations with exceptional perceptions that largely vary from each other. It's not done with radar scanning and such. It's done by talking and observing. The fact that you believe psychology is folly leads me to believe that in one point in time your perception is getting tried, and you were in resistance of changing it, and/or in denial that it's really limited as is. I don't know why you're comparing psychology to religion in the literal sense. That's just silly. And we're controlling the government with psychology? Yeah, try again. Second to last statement, yeah you're confusing it with psychiatry again. That's for the mentally sick. And it's actually a valid excuse for behavior. If you want to argue that people can really control violent symptoms of PTSD, you're going to lose. That last quote is really ironic when used by you. Ever try applying it to your own ideologies and beliefs about things? Like psychology for instance?
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:48 pm
i know how you feel.... i've been to my share of theripists...... they all seem to have different oppinons on why i am the way i am.... and just can't wait to shove more pills down my throat..... but i ignore them and don't listen to people who only claim to know you.
after all; how can she know you if she hasn't actually hung out with you like a friend would and seen you day to day for atleast a year. that's what i think it would take to 'know someone' even if only a little bit.
if you don't think you're depressed and your friends/family don't think so either then you aren't. thats how it should work.
and the monotone thing; that's just not right. theripists are supposed to be helpful and being an emotionless blob doesn't effect people in a positive way. i should know; i have atleast three of 'em as friends.
{on a side note: i've gotten sick of therepists telling me what's wrong with my head and have now started to make them ned their own therepists. just for kicks.}
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:02 pm
Oh wow.I'm very speechless right now.You hit it right on the nail and i'm surprised that I myself and so shocked at this.Though i think i have this push factor in my life because i am introverted and she had told me this,"From my point of view,you enjoy observing yourself in any situation and love to be in your mind more then being around other people and wanting to know what they think.I think of that as no obstacle for you as you can be very social in any giving and proper environmental situations.Though,you must think about other things then the negative perspective you give yourself while being introverted."
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:10 pm
Thief of Narshe Oh wow.I'm very speechless right now.You hit it right on the nail and i'm surprised that I myself and so shocked at this.Though i think i have this push factor in my life because i am introverted and she had told me this,"From my point of view,you enjoy observing yourself in any situation and love to be in your mind more then being around other people and wanting to know what they think.I think of that as no obstacle for you as you can be very social in any giving and proper environmental situations.Though,you must think about other things then the negative perspective you give yourself while being introverted." Wow, she does seem to have a conflict of interests. If you see everything as a positive, why would she want to change that? It baffles me a bit, but I guess that's part of the whole optimism vs. realism vs. pessimism debate. Since I don't hold a strong viewpoint on any of the three, I couldn't really argue for one. Optimism gives the opportunity to be disappointed, and pessimism keeps your mind in the negative state. Realism seems to be an ideal ideology, right in the middle of the road. I'm guessing she wants you to be less of an optimist and more of a realist. I say do as you please. It's a bit more difficult to build up confidence if you've taught yourself to lose it.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:17 am
Umbrae Ac Silentium Thief of Narshe Oh wow.I'm very speechless right now.You hit it right on the nail and i'm surprised that I myself and so shocked at this.Though i think i have this push factor in my life because i am introverted and she had told me this,"From my point of view,you enjoy observing yourself in any situation and love to be in your mind more then being around other people and wanting to know what they think.I think of that as no obstacle for you as you can be very social in any giving and proper environmental situations.Though,you must think about other things then the negative perspective you give yourself while being introverted." Wow, she does seem to have a conflict of interests. If you see everything as a positive, why would she want to change that? It baffles me a bit, but I guess that's part of the whole optimism vs. realism vs. pessimism debate. Since I don't hold a strong viewpoint on any of the three, I couldn't really argue for one. Optimism gives the opportunity to be disappointed, and pessimism keeps your mind in the negative state. Realism seems to be an ideal ideology, right in the middle of the road. I'm guessing she wants you to be less of an optimist and more of a realist. I say do as you please. It's a bit more difficult to build up confidence if you've taught yourself to lose it. I'm not Optimistic,i'm Pessimistic.I have a very negative point of view on everything and see no point of being into Realism as it has too many rules and i can't be my own self-loathing.This is how i base my thoughts on the matter.
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:23 am
if your not depressed then you won't have to worry about it
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