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 Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:10 pm
I don't know why I didn't think to do this before. It's very had to have a discussion with all the Professor's via PM's if they can't see what the others think. Plus I forgot that Gaia will only let you send "group" PM's if the people you are sending PM's are on your friends lists. After all Sing did ask for me to get input from everyone else, so making this thread is not quite breaking that "rule." So I'm going to summon you all here instead.... -------------------------------------------------- This is what I wanted to talk with you about. I have been talking with Sing about an idea to bring our class schedules for the students to a more canon like way. Here is what I'm proposing, and I would like some feedback on what you all have to think. How the new class schedules will work: Everyone student you starts at Hogwarts will take the Core Classes: Astronomy • Charms • Defense Against the Dark Arts • Herbology • History of Magic • Potions • Transfiguration. Flying is only available to 1st year students. Once you reach your 3rd year at the school you will then be allowed to pick two Elective classes: Care of Magical Creatures • Chorus • Divination • Magical Languages • Muggle Studies in addition to the core classes you are already taking. So classes in years 4 – 5 will include the Core Classes, plus the two elective classes you selected in your 3rd year. Once you reach your 6th year that is when you get to decided which classes you wish to continue into OWL/NEWT levels. Apparition will only be available to 6th and 7th years. ----------------------------------------------- Now I know some of you have already gotten back to me via PM's so I'm also going to post those here as well. xX_hang_me_higher_Xx Quote: "I like it, yet I don't think Astronomy should be a core class and I'm not just saying that because I'm the teacher. I think it should be another option for an elective for all years, yet students have to at least take two years of the class Or something along those lines maybe?" Quote: "Hmm, this does make it more like Hogwarts, also it might mean my class actually might have more than 3 people. Is it ok for me to group message my class and see where they are because I barely have responses right now...? =/ However, I think some pupils might find that this could be too much for them to do?" Quote: "I like it,although I wont have very many people in Apparition. :/ besides that,I think you should carry on with the idea." Quote: "I agree with Apparitions being available only to 6-7 and Flying to 1, but as it is I only have a few students, most of which are 1-2 years. This would severely cut back on the five students I have already, and what is the point if I'm only teaching a couple of students? Do we already know the numbers displaced from flying and apparitions, and the other classes being limited to 3rd years and above? Sorry to be a pain, but I got back onto this mule just to do this class; I don't want it to be for a class that gets cancelled anyway." Quote: "I do like this idea. Although, I think there should be exceptions to those ambitious students like Amelia who want to take everything. If they want to take it, then they shouldn't be limited. But, I do agree, I think that the students should be required to take the core classes, then they get to choose electives, and then they get to decide what they want to take for OWL/NEWT levels. That's a really good idea. Love it. Question though... Was Astronomy really a core class? I didn't think it was... I could be wrong though. =]" PLEASE DON'T QUOTE THIS POST
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:56 pm
As you know nerevar, I really do like this idea. I was just wondering what everyone else thought. The only problem is that what about high posting students? Maybe they really want to take apparition, and i dunno if it's fair to say no, you can't take it, but this person who barely posts and is a 6th year, can take it. I think this can be worked out, I just wanted your opinions on how to do it.
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singlikenoonecanhearyou Captain
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:05 pm
That's the one problem with the whole thing, the number of active people we actually have. I don't want to "steal" away students from Professors that teach those "higher" up classes or anything. I know at the moment nearly everyone here is in the 1st or 2nd years, all the other years have a few people in them. I can see where that would be a problem, it just the low years wouldn't logically be in Apperation. I think its just that I feel the RP should stay as close to the source material as possible.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:05 pm
Maybe, in the case of Apparation, we need to look at it from the Harry Potter POI. I realize that a lot of students are young, but whats going to happen when it gets to the point where the teachers are running out of things to teach? I've already had to make up spells because students want to learn certain things. I think making the students wait will get them excited to take it, and because Apparation isn't something that you can really change how you teach it, it is more worth making them wait, because they can really only take the class once. With D.A.D.A, Transfig., Charms, and almost every other class, you can change it up. But, with classes like Apparation and flying, you really can't. So once those students are in there, they will learn, and get out. I think they should have to wait just like they do in the books.
As far as the rest of it, I'm all for it. I don't see why we can't change it up. I think trying it once would be a good idea. If we didn't like it, then we can go back to how it was. The only other thing I wanted to say was those ambitious students. Don't let them take classes like Apparation, but I think that if they want to, and they have proof that they are keeping up with all their other classes, then they can take more classes such as electives. ((Ginelle is here with me, she's staying the night tonight because we had a fundraiser to sing at, so she's staying here... She says that if she couldn't take some of the electives, she would probably cry. Dramatic, don't you think?)) I know that Amelia is taking almost every class there is, and she hasn't fallen behind in any of my lessons, as well as I know Ginelle wants to try to take more classes, and she is doing fine as well.
I like the idea, but I think some exceptions need to be made, and if we don't like it after trying, then maybe we should just change it back. It couldn't hurt to try though.
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Soul and heart Freedom Crew
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:12 am
((Amelia's not in apparation, but yeah, I agree with Ginny I'd cry if I had to drop my electives.))
Still, thinking realistically, I agree. The first years definitely should have their core classes. I don't see how they can be expected to know Charms as 2nd years if they're not in my class as first years. It just doesn't make sense. Sure, the first lesson I'm doing as a group, sort of as a review, but otherwise it'll be divided, like you do Nerevar. Overall I'm for it, though what are we going to do this year? And I think that during your fourth, if you can you should be allowed to add another elective, and once more during your fifth year. Since, I think at least the older students should be able to have a chance to take all classes if they can balance it. Unless you're thinking of us dividing up by years as well for the other classes? Maybe we can keep Chorus and Language still optional, so younger students can be a part of those earlier.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:27 am
Okay how about this then. Everyone would be required to take the "core" classes no matter what year they are in. (maybe make an exception to those in 6th and 7th years) Also we can allow anyone who wish's to take those "elective" classes would be allowed as well even if they are not in 3rd year yet.
Of course they will need to post and keep up with those work loads if they wish to take all those extra classes, if not then they should be reminded that if they can't keep up they will be removed.
(There are always reason's that someone can't make it to the guild, and those are always valid, but if someone is ALWAYS in active then that's another thing all together.)
Flying should still be kept to 1st years, don't really think that once you get into the upper years you need to continue with that. And as for Apparition how about we allow people to take the class, but they have to be a certain age before they can actually Apperate.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:07 pm
Nerevar Telvanni Flying should still be kept to 1st years, don't really think that once you get into the upper years you need to continue with that. And as for Apparition how about we allow people to take the class, but they have to be a certain age before they can actually Apperate. What if there's a student,maybe in their second year,and they don't have their flying license.Would they still have to take flying for it?
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:31 pm
Just A Dream78 Nerevar Telvanni Flying should still be kept to 1st years, don't really think that once you get into the upper years you need to continue with that. And as for Apparition how about we allow people to take the class, but they have to be a certain age before they can actually Apperate. What if there's a student,maybe in their second year,and they don't have their flying license.Would they still have to take flying for it?
You don't need a license to fly. It's only for App since really bad things can go grow with people who are not registered to Apperate. Even with the license things can go wrong. The flying class to me is just a course for students to get a better understanding of how to use a broom. Even if they know how too b/c their parents let them fly before coming to Hogwarts.
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singlikenoonecanhearyou Captain
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:30 pm
Let's hear from a couple more people smile We still have a week before my play is over, so we have time to think on it.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:44 pm
I'm still worried about not having enough students in electives. We can strongly suggest them, but if students see that they already have a large enough load, they won't just sign up for more.
Sing, at what point will you start getting rid of classes because there are not enough students taking them? The same happened with Ancient Runes and Arithmancy, didn't it? Or was it because of the lack of knowledge of the material taught? I forgot.
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:51 pm
Hmm... after reading the other opinions, I could imagine there being less students in the elective classes if there are more 1st and 2nd year students, maybe you could give the option to 1st and 2nd year students if there aren't enough in the classes?
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:05 pm
stars-hime Hmm... after reading the other opinions, I could imagine there being less students in the elective classes if there are more 1st and 2nd year students, maybe you could give the option to 1st and 2nd year students if there aren't enough in the classes?
I suggested that option as well a few post's ago. That we make it required that they take the core and if they are not in 3rd year but want to take those electives they can. Just as long as they can keep up will all the "work."
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:19 am
Nerevar Telvanni stars-hime Hmm... after reading the other opinions, I could imagine there being less students in the elective classes if there are more 1st and 2nd year students, maybe you could give the option to 1st and 2nd year students if there aren't enough in the classes?
I suggested that option as well a few post's ago. That we make it required that they take the core and if they are not in 3rd year but want to take those electives they can. Just as long as they can keep up will all the "work."
Sorry, I do end up copy stuff I've read at times. >.< Guess it was such a good idea, it stuck? ^^
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:40 am
Hello ! I received the mail about the canon-lessons and since I'm teaching one of the Core classes...
I was wondering when I first joined the guild back in December how the schedules worked. I like the idea of distributing the classes in a more canon-like way. Currently, I've got three to five students who're active at most since there's always some in-and-out changes. I'd agree with Flying being reserved for 1st years but that would mean students who'd join in later would have to go through 1st year and up if they want Flying class ? 1st and 2nd years are quite in the middle of things but giving a look at activity in the current classes, letting them take a choice at taking Electives too is a great option.
I'd like to hear sings opinion about Ancient Runes & Arithmancy because I can't remember why those were removed from the program.
If we decide to go through the schedules change; would that mean they'd happen after the House Cup ? The new term would start with new schedules ?
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:30 am
Well Ancient Runes was canceled and removed because the last Professor we had for that was not very active and not very people took the class. I really liked it and took it while Ken was still a student. As for Arithmancy that one was canceled it was too much like real life math lots of work and not very fun.
As for when the new schedule list would go into effect, I would assume that we would wait until the next school year to implement it.
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