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 Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:32 am
So I started thinking about the Libyan scenario. In this scenario, you live in a country where your tax dollars are used to train and arm your neighbors to become police and military, who then shoot you and bomb your families. Unfortunately for you, if you decide to become a rebel, you have between little and no training in whatever weapons you can get a hold of, and even less in the way of tactics.
I am reminded at this time of the controversy of the 2nd Amendment, and why it exists and what it is supposed to entail. Now, without a knee-jerk reaction of "hell-no", do you think this could happen in your country, and if so, how can it be prevented?
Allow me to clarify: Do you think it is possible for a government like yours to become totalitarian and end up with a civilian population fighting for their lives, but because of decades of pacifist indoctrination and restrictive gun laws, are incapable of effective defense or retaliation?
And if this is possible, how can such a travesty be legally prevented?
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:18 am
buy lots of cheap guns while they are still cheap, bury them in cosmoline with ammo,misc cleaning items, and modern tactics and army/survival manuals attached to it in a separate box for future generations. pass down the family's buried "treasure's" location for the inevitably more fascist years to come.
more than one of these packages buried in different locations is advisable.
be sure to include at least one good semi auto carbine such as an AK in each package and a few pistols as well. you wanna have at least some diversity.
if you know how to make explosives of any type, be sure to add some or at least include instructions of how to make them as well.
you can be sure that just about all electronic information that's available today that can help a resistance will be restricted and monitored so be sure to include as much fighting/survival knowledge as you can.
remember that the packages arent just for your family members, it's to arm them and their friends/neighbors as well for the cause.
just my $00.02
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:42 am
Any nation that has an unarmed civilian population is in danger of this. I do believe it could happen to us, as we seem to be leaning more and more toward stricter gun control. But it won't happen any time soon.
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:35 pm
The U.S. is already preparing for some type of uprising. The National Guard has been informed that if they need to, they can open fire at civilians and there have been "concentration" camps set up for the unruly citizens. I'm not exactly sure what they think is going to happen and when, but who knows.
How could an uprising be prevented? Easy. Weed out the corruption in the government. I mean, people in the U.S. are supposed to have a voice right? But most of the time it goes unnoticed unless we're targeting a specific someone and harassing or threatening them.
I do feel that a certain someone is trying to change the U.S's government into something that has a lot more control. Socialism/Communism. I don't care if they are not the same thing, but doesn't Socialism usually lead to failure? What type of government would replace that failed Socialism? Hm... If this president gets reelected (which I seriously doubt), then I can bet some spin off of Communism.
If Trump runs, I'll probably be voting for him =^_^= Anti-gun control and pro life. Odd combination, but those are some major issues right now. He could probably figure out a good health care plan too, unlike Obamacare...
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:14 pm
I think in some countries the people are not physically or mentally trained to handle conflict. Instead of being moved to act, they are moved to paralysis, fear, and despair.
I tried some of the old WWII exercises and it was a bit shocking how difficult it could be compared with the stuff we do today. I'm reminded of the differences in sizes of clothing - how a 'medium' now depends on where you buy it and which country manufactured it.
With the Libyans, they had knowledge of some weapons, and not others. In some countries, the citizens have access to some weapons, but not others. It is precisely this lack of access to heavier weapons that promoted the incompetence that is leading to the stalemate. I think military costs could be somewhat cheaper if civilians purchased some of their own equipment, including medium-heavy weapons, then used them in something like militia training exercises.
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:06 am
Aakosir The U.S. is already preparing for some type of uprising. The National Guard has been informed that if they need to, they can open fire at civilians and there have been "concentration" camps set up for the unruly citizens. I'm not exactly sure what they think is going to happen and when, but who knows.
How could an uprising be prevented? Easy. Weed out the corruption in the government. I mean, people in the U.S. are supposed to have a voice right? But most of the time it goes unnoticed unless we're targeting a specific someone and harassing or threatening them.
I do feel that a certain someone is trying to change the U.S's government into something that has a lot more control. Socialism/Communism. I don't care if they are not the same thing, but doesn't Socialism usually lead to failure? What type of government would replace that failed Socialism? Hm... If this president gets reelected (which I seriously doubt), then I can bet some spin off of Communism.
If Trump runs, I'll probably be voting for him =^_^= Anti-gun control and pro life. Odd combination, but those are some major issues right now. He could probably figure out a good health care plan too, unlike Obamacare... trump is an economic genius. if anyone is qualified to fix the economy trump would likely know how go about it. also..."The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not" take a look at what's been going on since last century and how it's been slowly killing the US
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:26 am
Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir The U.S. is already preparing for some type of uprising. The National Guard has been informed that if they need to, they can open fire at civilians and there have been "concentration" camps set up for the unruly citizens. I'm not exactly sure what they think is going to happen and when, but who knows.
How could an uprising be prevented? Easy. Weed out the corruption in the government. I mean, people in the U.S. are supposed to have a voice right? But most of the time it goes unnoticed unless we're targeting a specific someone and harassing or threatening them.
I do feel that a certain someone is trying to change the U.S's government into something that has a lot more control. Socialism/Communism. I don't care if they are not the same thing, but doesn't Socialism usually lead to failure? What type of government would replace that failed Socialism? Hm... If this president gets reelected (which I seriously doubt), then I can bet some spin off of Communism.
If Trump runs, I'll probably be voting for him =^_^= Anti-gun control and pro life. Odd combination, but those are some major issues right now. He could probably figure out a good health care plan too, unlike Obamacare... trump is an economic genius. if anyone is qualified to fix the economy trump would likely know how go about it. also..."The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not" take a look at what's been going on since last century and how it's been slowly killing the US
In college we've been having a disccussion about all the people useing and abusing welfare and unemployment... They have no desire to go back to work, they'll just take the government hand outs...
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:50 pm
Aakosir The U.S. is already preparing for some type of uprising. The National Guard has been informed that if they need to, they can open fire at civilians and there have been "concentration" camps set up for the unruly citizens. I'm not exactly sure what they think is going to happen and when, but who knows.
How could an uprising be prevented? Easy. Weed out the corruption in the government. I mean, people in the U.S. are supposed to have a voice right? But most of the time it goes unnoticed unless we're targeting a specific someone and harassing or threatening them.
I do feel that a certain someone is trying to change the U.S's government into something that has a lot more control. Socialism/Communism. I don't care if they are not the same thing, but doesn't Socialism usually lead to failure? What type of government would replace that failed Socialism? Hm... If this president gets reelected (which I seriously doubt), then I can bet some spin off of Communism.
If Trump runs, I'll probably be voting for him =^_^= Anti-gun control and pro life. Odd combination, but those are some major issues right now. He could probably figure out a good health care plan too, unlike Obamacare... during hurricane katrina, each NG soldier was only issued a single magazine and 28 rounds. the govt just told them to deal with it. I dunno about you but that sounds ******** retarded to send in a unit equipped with practically nothing and telling them to pretty much go ******** themselves.. I doubt there will ever be any sort of "massacres" by the guard during any emergency/ takeover mainly because a lot of people forget that they live here also.....
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:13 pm
Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir The U.S. is already preparing for some type of uprising. The National Guard has been informed that if they need to, they can open fire at civilians and there have been "concentration" camps set up for the unruly citizens. I'm not exactly sure what they think is going to happen and when, but who knows.
How could an uprising be prevented? Easy. Weed out the corruption in the government. I mean, people in the U.S. are supposed to have a voice right? But most of the time it goes unnoticed unless we're targeting a specific someone and harassing or threatening them.
I do feel that a certain someone is trying to change the U.S's government into something that has a lot more control. Socialism/Communism. I don't care if they are not the same thing, but doesn't Socialism usually lead to failure? What type of government would replace that failed Socialism? Hm... If this president gets reelected (which I seriously doubt), then I can bet some spin off of Communism.
If Trump runs, I'll probably be voting for him =^_^= Anti-gun control and pro life. Odd combination, but those are some major issues right now. He could probably figure out a good health care plan too, unlike Obamacare... during hurricane katrina, each NG soldier was only issued a single magazine and 28 rounds. the govt just told them to deal with it. I dunno about you but that sounds ******** retarded to send in a unit equipped with practically nothing and telling them to pretty much go ******** themselves.. I doubt there will ever be any sort of "massacres" by the guard during any emergency/ takeover mainly because a lot of people forget that they live here also.....
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:45 pm
Aakosir Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir The U.S. is already preparing for some type of uprising. The National Guard has been informed that if they need to, they can open fire at civilians and there have been "concentration" camps set up for the unruly citizens. I'm not exactly sure what they think is going to happen and when, but who knows.
How could an uprising be prevented? Easy. Weed out the corruption in the government. I mean, people in the U.S. are supposed to have a voice right? But most of the time it goes unnoticed unless we're targeting a specific someone and harassing or threatening them.
I do feel that a certain someone is trying to change the U.S's government into something that has a lot more control. Socialism/Communism. I don't care if they are not the same thing, but doesn't Socialism usually lead to failure? What type of government would replace that failed Socialism? Hm... If this president gets reelected (which I seriously doubt), then I can bet some spin off of Communism.
If Trump runs, I'll probably be voting for him =^_^= Anti-gun control and pro life. Odd combination, but those are some major issues right now. He could probably figure out a good health care plan too, unlike Obamacare... during hurricane katrina, each NG soldier was only issued a single magazine and 28 rounds. the govt just told them to deal with it. I dunno about you but that sounds ******** retarded to send in a unit equipped with practically nothing and telling them to pretty much go ******** themselves.. I doubt there will ever be any sort of "massacres" by the guard during any emergency/ takeover mainly because a lot of people forget that they live here also..... there's a s**t ton of chinese military vehicles that have been shipped to US .mil bases in the past few years. my guess is that the ones who are plotting intend to use foreign troops to enforce martial law and run the camps, because they know that the majority of US troops would refuse to follow such orders against our own people and even join the people in the fight. china's military on their own dont have the capability to make the trip overseas, but with the help of some of the evil elements in power, our own carriers and ships could be used to get them here. also, expensive missles = spared GI lives france sent their troops in anyways. we need a break, let them have their turn.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:46 pm
Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir The U.S. is already preparing for some type of uprising. The National Guard has been informed that if they need to, they can open fire at civilians and there have been "concentration" camps set up for the unruly citizens. I'm not exactly sure what they think is going to happen and when, but who knows.
How could an uprising be prevented? Easy. Weed out the corruption in the government. I mean, people in the U.S. are supposed to have a voice right? But most of the time it goes unnoticed unless we're targeting a specific someone and harassing or threatening them.
I do feel that a certain someone is trying to change the U.S's government into something that has a lot more control. Socialism/Communism. I don't care if they are not the same thing, but doesn't Socialism usually lead to failure? What type of government would replace that failed Socialism? Hm... If this president gets reelected (which I seriously doubt), then I can bet some spin off of Communism.
If Trump runs, I'll probably be voting for him =^_^= Anti-gun control and pro life. Odd combination, but those are some major issues right now. He could probably figure out a good health care plan too, unlike Obamacare... during hurricane katrina, each NG soldier was only issued a single magazine and 28 rounds. the govt just told them to deal with it. I dunno about you but that sounds ******** retarded to send in a unit equipped with practically nothing and telling them to pretty much go ******** themselves.. I doubt there will ever be any sort of "massacres" by the guard during any emergency/ takeover mainly because a lot of people forget that they live here also..... there's a s**t ton of chinese military vehicles that have been shipped to US .mil bases in the past few years. my guess is that the ones who are plotting intend to use foreign troops to enforce martial law and run the camps, because they know that the majority of US troops would refuse to follow such orders against our own people and even join the people in the fight. china's military on their own dont have the capability to make the trip overseas, but with the help of some of the evil elements in power, our own carriers and ships could be used to get them here. also, expensive missles = spared GI lives france sent their troops in anyways. we need a break, let them have their turn.
I don't think many Navy Captains would agree with that type of transportation though. They tend to be picky about their s**t.
They didn't have to use tomohawks, I'm pretty sure they could have used regular rockets.
And it's about time someone else did something. Granted the U.S. always seems to jump when there's a chance to "invade" foreign countries...
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:49 pm
Aakosir Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir The U.S. is already preparing for some type of uprising. The National Guard has been informed that if they need to, they can open fire at civilians and there have been "concentration" camps set up for the unruly citizens. I'm not exactly sure what they think is going to happen and when, but who knows.
How could an uprising be prevented? Easy. Weed out the corruption in the government. I mean, people in the U.S. are supposed to have a voice right? But most of the time it goes unnoticed unless we're targeting a specific someone and harassing or threatening them.
I do feel that a certain someone is trying to change the U.S's government into something that has a lot more control. Socialism/Communism. I don't care if they are not the same thing, but doesn't Socialism usually lead to failure? What type of government would replace that failed Socialism? Hm... If this president gets reelected (which I seriously doubt), then I can bet some spin off of Communism.
If Trump runs, I'll probably be voting for him =^_^= Anti-gun control and pro life. Odd combination, but those are some major issues right now. He could probably figure out a good health care plan too, unlike Obamacare... during hurricane katrina, each NG soldier was only issued a single magazine and 28 rounds. the govt just told them to deal with it. I dunno about you but that sounds ******** retarded to send in a unit equipped with practically nothing and telling them to pretty much go ******** themselves.. I doubt there will ever be any sort of "massacres" by the guard during any emergency/ takeover mainly because a lot of people forget that they live here also..... there's a s**t ton of chinese military vehicles that have been shipped to US .mil bases in the past few years. my guess is that the ones who are plotting intend to use foreign troops to enforce martial law and run the camps, because they know that the majority of US troops would refuse to follow such orders against our own people and even join the people in the fight. china's military on their own dont have the capability to make the trip overseas, but with the help of some of the evil elements in power, our own carriers and ships could be used to get them here. also, expensive missles = spared GI lives france sent their troops in anyways. we need a break, let them have their turn.
I don't think many Navy Captains would agree with that type of transportation though. They tend to be picky about their s**t.
They didn't have to use tomohawks, I'm pretty sure they could have used regular rockets.
And it's about time someone else did something. Granted the U.S. always seems to jump when there's a chance to "invade" foreign countries...tomohawks were necessary. you cant pull the kind of s**t hezbollah does by launching random rockets into a city. precision guided munitions are an absolute necessity when you want to avoid killing civilians and making sure you are destroying what you need to hit.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:59 pm
Recon_Ninja_985 tomohawks were necessary. you cant pull the kind of s**t hezbollah does by launching random rockets into a city. precision guided munitions are an absolute necessity when you want to avoid killing civilians and making sure you are destroying what you need to hit.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:21 pm
Aakosir Recon_Ninja_985 tomohawks were necessary. you cant pull the kind of s**t hezbollah does by launching random rockets into a city. precision guided munitions are an absolute necessity when you want to avoid killing civilians and making sure you are destroying what you need to hit. people get pissed every time we did that in the past. I think the last time we did that might have been in indonesia and we ended up pissing a lot of people off.
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:16 am
Recon_Ninja_985 Aakosir Recon_Ninja_985 tomohawks were necessary. you cant pull the kind of s**t hezbollah does by launching random rockets into a city. precision guided munitions are an absolute necessity when you want to avoid killing civilians and making sure you are destroying what you need to hit. people get pissed every time we did that in the past. I think the last time we did that might have been in indonesia and we ended up pissing a lot of people off.
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