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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:51 pm
I would like to have a serious discussion about the policies (not birthplace, not religion) of President Obama and his administration. I'm particularly interested in hearing what Democracts/liberals have to say, but of course everyone is more than welcome to give their views.
I've got some considering to do before I make my first post, but feel free if you'd like to start the discussion in the meantime.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:04 pm
Hmm.. let's see. Kind of disappointed how health care hasn't changed much I guess.
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Colorful Shadows Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:04 pm
President Obama is not a very good president. He promotes agendas that wreck families and human lives.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:33 pm
Emperor Angelo XXV President Obama is not a very good president. He promotes agendas that wreck families and human lives. Care to elaborate on that? I'd like to know in what ways Obama is promoting agendas that wreck families and/or human lives.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:27 pm
Jessabeth19 Emperor Angelo XXV President Obama is not a very good president. He promotes agendas that wreck families and human lives. Care to elaborate on that? I'd like to know in what ways Obama is promoting agendas that wreck families and/or human lives. He supports abortion which is murdering thousands if not millions of children and he wants to spread that to the world. He also supports and even plans to spread homosexual "rights" (read: agenda) globally. If that is not American imperialism, then I do not know what imperialism means.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:35 pm
Emperor Angelo XXV Jessabeth19 Emperor Angelo XXV President Obama is not a very good president. He promotes agendas that wreck families and human lives. Care to elaborate on that? I'd like to know in what ways Obama is promoting agendas that wreck families and/or human lives. He supports abortion which is murdering thousands if not millions of children and he wants to spread that to the world. He also supports and even plans to spread homosexual "rights" (read: agenda) globally. If that is not American imperialism, then I do not know what imperialism means.*achem* Hi there, I'm a lesbian biggrin Might I ask something? Lets say you had a happy family, and a mother and a father and a son, now lets say that son discovers that he is gay, and when he wants to get married, settle down and have children of his own but he isn't aloud to, so he fights just like any other parent would for that right, or a lesbian who gets pregnant and wishes to raise her child with her loving wife, but that child is ripped away from said family (only as a worse case scenario) or back to the gay boy, he can never have a child or be with the one he loves hence breaking his heart. Also what if, like what has happened many times before the gay boy and the lesbian commit suicide breaking the hearts of their family tearing them apart and causing a lot of turmoil stress and sadness? Tell me, what if a black man and a black women got married? they're the same race, so hence it must be wrong, because nothing can be the same. Unless you have some real reason behind why the gay community is a bad thing I don't think you have a solid argument, and no dear friend 'its creepy' is not an argument, and if you say its unnatural, then why is it common in animals? as well as found greatly accepted throughout all of our ancient history? And let me ask you something in closeing, if being gay is an offense and a conscious choice then tell me this. When did you decide to be straight?
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:46 pm
I have nothing against same sex people, but I think abortion is wrong, it's murder!
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:56 pm
I don't support or oppose abortion, sometimes its a vary hard call for a doctor, and sometimes its absolutely necessary, either the baby dies and the mother lives, or the mother dies as well as the baby, I know if I was in that situation I would simply have the baby and then put the child up for adoption so it could have a home that could support it and love it. But some people don't think that way. No ones perfect, and I may not be American but I think Obama's not doing to bad, and well no wonder so many of you hate him, in the election you all worked him up so much bigger than any one man could ever be, you should try running a nation filled with angry people.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:04 pm
Fires of Hope I don't support or oppose abortion, sometimes its a vary hard call for a doctor, and sometimes its absolutely necessary, either the baby dies and the mother lives, or the mother dies as well as the baby, I know if I was in that situation I would simply have the baby and then put the child up for adoption so it could have a home that could support it and love it. But some people don't think that way. No ones perfect, and I may not be American but I think Obama's not doing to bad, and well no wonder so many of you hate him, in the election you all worked him up so much bigger than any one man could ever be, you should try running a nation filled with angry people. My older cousin (she's 25) was pregnant but her baby had a messed-up bone structure and if it made it alive it would never be able to move his extremities, have medical complications during his whole life and most likely die at a very young age. Not to mention he had an under-developed liver. She had to abort and she felt really bad about it but the baby didn't have the slightest chance of a happy life. After this experience my views on abortion changed, sometimes it is necessary and it is important to see that before you judge someone without knowing the facts. Also... Allowing gay marriage is respect to someone else's lifestyle and if you cant' handle that then I pity you.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:18 pm
I do not believe in abortion because it was asumed that I would've been born retarded and the doctors suggested abortion, but here I am today mentally physically fine.I'm glad I wasn't aborted
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:37 pm
i think Obama is doing what he can, i mean there are many years before him, where the president ******** up and lets face it all good politicians lie. i think that hey if your gay good for you, don't push it on me and we can be friends, as for abortion, i don't like it, its murder, i mean if your going to kill a kid cause he or she may have a hard time living then kill off the people that are vegetables laying in the house or in the hospital, and those kids that have cancer go kill them to, or and don't forget about the people that have disabilities. cause that's what your doing. i would rather be poor paying medical bills till my severely handicapped kid closes his eyes and sleeps for good, then kill him or her before it had the chance to breath, to see the sky the animals, to feel the wind and the grass, the water, i would give that child the best the world could offer, and smile even tho i know it might be the last day it will be awake, and hey medical science is getting better everyday, you never know what can happen if you don't give it a chance.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:26 pm
Emperor Angelo XXV Jessabeth19 Emperor Angelo XXV President Obama is not a very good president. He promotes agendas that wreck families and human lives. Care to elaborate on that? I'd like to know in what ways Obama is promoting agendas that wreck families and/or human lives. He supports abortion which is murdering thousands if not millions of children and he wants to spread that to the world. He also supports and even plans to spread homosexual "rights" (read: agenda) globally. If that is not American imperialism, then I do not know what imperialism means.Uh, many cultures accept homosexuality because they are aware that it doesn't cause problems. There is no way that homosexuality wrecks families. As another member said, please let me know when it was that you CHOSE to be straight. You didn't. You were just attracted to the opposite sex. Think about anyone you have ever fallen in love with. Did you actively choose to love that person or did you find yourself feeling something for the person just because? I am pro-choice, but mostly for instances in which the mother's life is at stake or in cases of rape. I don't believe anyone has the right to tell a woman to carry something for 9 months which is a constant reminder that she was raped. I don't believe that sort of trauma needs to be inflicted on any woman. Also, you do realize that Obama cannot FORCE other countries to "accept the homosexual agenda", right? Of course, if by homosexual agenda you mean equal rights then, I think that's just a basic right that all people deserve, but feel free to call me crazy because of that.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:31 pm
I am neither for nor against abortion, that is everyone's right. I appericiate Obama trying to spread homosexual rights, it means he's trying to treat everyone the same. I wished he would change the health plan a bit better for people who can't afford medicare and other health insurance though. A few people have told me that Obama is thinking of bringing corporal punishment back into schools and making a national exam for students to pass before they can graduate.
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:03 pm
I just read all of this and there are some pretty interesting comments brought up. I am not at the age to vote, but if I was I would of voted for Obama, or Hillary. One of the two. As for Obama spreading homosexual rights he has every right to do that. Love should not be challenged because of gender, race, religion, or anything. Love is love, so let it be what it is. And for abortion I read on that when he first talked about it. He never said he supported it. He was saying more of it was the womens choice. Like Jessabeth wrote who would want to be raped and then have a nine moth reminder that she was? It wouldn't be fun now would it? And I'm guessing because your a guy you probably wouldn't think of how it would be for the female going through it. It would be a living hell. Giving childbirth seems like it would be. And besides, if I was 16, all AP/Hongers classes and living a good life, and I was stupid and got myself pregnant, I wouldn't sit there growing a child in my stomach just to give it away. It would ruin my life. So with abortion I believe it should be a right that the woman can chose freely to use or not to use. Oh! And going back to homosexual rights, if you like hate it and believe it should be illegal or whatever, that's pretty much straight outstaying you are racist. Same with womans rights, like how woman get paid __% less than men working the same job is also racist. Just put it in different terms. Same with religion. I don't like how Mormons are like illegal in the united states. It's there friken religion, I feel like Cristians should be illegal to then. So after my venting, back to Obama. I think he is doing the best he can! With all the people who screwed up before him he is trying to get this country running up again. If McCain was president I believe he would be having just as hard of a time as Obama does with the country. That's all. ^-^ For now....
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:17 am
Sage, being Mormon isn't illegal in the US. Are you perhaps meaning how they are not allowed the old Mormon way of having more than one wife? (Of course there are, I'm sure, still some who practice the multiple wife thing, but I believe most Mormons say that they do not believe in that. I'm not 100% on that though. )
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