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 Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:16 pm
Well after Many years of putting up with constant s**t and aggravation {As well as slight fear because of all the control he has}, I have finally decided to post this rant on one major douche, TIMHAYNIE! Tim, you are just a ******** t**t clot who does nothing but piss everyone off with your control freak plots and stupid politics on the G-Fed Community. From first seeing you on Gaia in 2005, and always asking for world title shots and jobs as a crew in whatever guild you joined, to today where you always treat everyone like they don't matter, and you still order us around. It just makes me want to greet you in Pensacola with a ******** 12 gauge! But wait! There's more! Yes of coarse there's more!
When I was made a crew in WWFG, I was happy about it because I thought I could maybe make it better for the members so they wouldn't hate the crew for all of your damn bull s**t, but wouldn't you know it? I was still treated like s**t, and always having my opinion ignored. From the Nit witted WWFG exclusive Profile system you installed, you knew people wouldn't like it, you just didn't care, because you knew people would still follow your orders. The Royal Rumble Match? What kind of ******** Sense does letting Donny Mantra win make? He was making a short lived return! It should have been some one like Chrono or Kid Omega because of their constant effort and contributions. Us WWFG Crew pleaded for you let Chrono or Omega win, But you didn't like how Chrono was "Disrespectful to you" Which in simple terms means, He Stood up to you, and you've never liked dealing with that from anyone, same way you made Harli's world title reign so damn short, because he said he didn't like the way you kept letting the inactive guy retain the title. But back to more recent WWFG stuff, what about my secondary Crazy Wayne? You made me change his move set because you felt his main moves were too generic. That wasn't helpful like you said it was. It was just you controlling everyone like ******** usual. And back to the Royal Rumble, You were forcing several people to give up their entry numbers for people making one time returns, How ******** rotten is that? I'll answer that, PRETTY ******** ROTTEN you tool bag!
What about other guilds? WWE: Evolution we had a match with our tag titles on the line, but the way I earned the win was because you made sure I typed what you wanted me to post. and your reasoning was because you said that you "knew how to put on a great match" which is A: Absolute Bull s**t! B: You just completely bashing my role playing skills! And Let's not forget your constant attempts of trying to make me promo on your terms. You seem to forget I have difficulty writing out long a** promos, and don't really like them. But instead, you would occasionally tell me during my world title reign, "I expect a Good Promo out of you next card." Once again, you're trying to control me! and Lets not forget, your promos, no matter how long and detailed they are, they suck worse than a male prostitute trying to get crack! Same goes for your damn spelling and grammar. and you have the nerve to try and tell people how they should promo, you ******** p***k.
So That's all for now, I said what I could for now at least. And I will be posting more in here once I have the motivation to do so, And Tim, I hope you learn something from all of this...........
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:28 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:31 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:33 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:06 pm
*Belches* Amusing.. neutral
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:44 pm
*Pulls up a chair and sits down with a of popcorn*
Ah Time to watch another shoot xd
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:59 pm
*slow clap*
The timing of that is a bit off since Tim's been inactive as it seems. But well said.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:20 pm
-Sips tea-
So... What I'm seeing here is... You're unhappy with Tim?
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:21 pm
Hey, look! A situation I should stay out of!
*Jumps in headfirst*
Maybe it's just me, but I've never had a problem with Tim. Maybe it's the fact that I don't seem to have an ego, but that's a discussion for a different time. But looking over your argument, there are a few things we should take a look at.
-1st Paragraph: I'm not going to touch. I don't know the discussions you and Tim have, so I really cant judge.
-2nd P:
Profiles: Has anyone else had a problem with the profile system? I'll gladly retract this statement if it really did annoy people, but I don't think you should call him on this. So you had to remake your profile. Big goddamn whoop. It is always a good idea to remake your profile, if only to evaluate your character and how it has evolved over time. No one should dislike the idea of looking over their own works.
The Rumble: Hasn't Tim apologized for this already? I may be mistaken, but I'm almost sure he has. Yeah, it doesn't excuse the way the Rumble went, but give the guy a break. And I'm not surprised that Tim didn't give it to Chrono. It's well documented that they hate each other with a burning passion and, as much as they or anyone would deny it, emotions do get in the way of running pretty much anything. Unprofessional? Well, yeah, but it happens sometimes.
Crazy Wayne: How long has Tim been doing that anyway? I remember that he wanted me to change on of my finishers to an STO. I didn't like the idea and I told him so. We came to a compromise; I changed the move, but I was able to get a move I had wanted to use. I don't think he has a problem with you selecting your own move. Sure it can limit you, but sometimes great decisions come from restricted imaginations.
3rd P:
WWE:E Tag: It's amazing that I even have to say this: MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS. Com'on Draze, you're smarter than this. Your the one typing the posts. If Tim doesn't like the way your posting, he can adapt himself to your post. The way I see it you're both in the wrong on this one; Tim for forcing you to post, and you for not having the guts to stand up to him and make your own actions. If you don't like his suggestions, just ******** ignore him.
Title Reign: You don't like him suggesting a promo? For the love of Cthulu, he's telling you something that you should already know! If you were a world champion in my hypothetical Fed, I'd expect you to make a few good promo's to. It comes with the territory. Hell, I caught s**t for not posting promos as the Deific Champion, and I understood that I should have been more active in that area, as well as more active overall. I understand having difficulty with a long promo, but mate, when your the world champion, it's kinda expected of you.
Alright, I think this has gone on long enough. Draze, I consider you a friend on here, and I understand your opinion in this situation. But from where I'm standing your just whining about nothing. Again, If I got any of my information wrong, I'll gladly retract it from my argument, but this is how I understand the situation.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:55 pm
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:13 pm
@doc: yes, tim caught plenty of crap for the new profile system. most of us, myself included, did not like it. i created one because it's his guild and his rules, but a lot of people complained about it, chrono, draze, myself, pyro, and several others. most people flat out refused to do one at first. it was quite a pain to have to redo profiles, in my case just to remove my piledriver finisher, only to have to redo it when he lifts the ban on piledrivers.
as for the tag team thing, i will agree with doc that you, draze, should have said screw him and posted your way. if he didn't like it, obviously you two shouldn't have teamed up in the first place.
the title reign thing, i can't fault tim for. you were a world champion, and all of us that run feds expect our world champions to do promos. I understand they're not your strong point, so don't make them overly long. do what you're comfortable with but at least put forth the effort. you notice that normally people with lengthy title runs in any of our federations are people that promo regularly, that do something to keep interest in the title.
the royal rumble thing, drop it. we discussed that in crew and you know it. before you go making tim look bad for donny winning, yes, tim was pretty much deadset against chrono winning. yes, we (you, me, and brantley) made it clear he was a logical choice. tim asked us to choose someone else in case he didn't give the win to chrono. all of us said donny. we did not say nuke or x because they are not active enough. we did suggest kid, but kid already had a storyline in place in WWFG. essentially, anyone we wanted to win, kid, shadow, 2.0, all had storylines going into wrestlemania that they had planned out themselves. there is no point rehashing this damn rumble thing when everyone bitched and complained so much that donny, not tim, put donny's mania title shot up in that four way. and lo and behold, donny still wound up being the most active of the four.
the only problem i have with tim right now is that he did not replace the crew members he demoted and has left me and GBL to do whatever he doesn't get online to do with his busy schedule. however, that's something that can be worked around. there's no point bitching at the man over minor things. now as far as your personal goings on with him, that's nothing i can comment on
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:52 pm
Speaking as a guild owner you want to try and differentiate yourself with other guilds. Meaning that you want do something different that brings people in, but at the same time you want to keep them familiar so they have a certain comfort zone so to speak.
Sometimes stepping out of that box is a good thing, sometimes its not. I've learned this over the years. You'll see me test certain people to see if they can carry the ball and run with it, or trip and fail.
As far as the profile thing goes, why? It wasn't needed and the amount of backlash that was received should've been the indication
'oh maybe this isn't the best of ideas' and not do it. I do see where he's coming from in wanting to be different in hindsight BUT if just about damn near everyone is adamant against not using it then why keep it?
Also the ban on certain moves I can understand for a storyline, however there are variations to said move that are 'safe' however if you're doing a storyline in that case, it should've only affected the parties involved, NOT the entire guild. (a good example would be the banning of Taker's Hells Gate, or Edge's Spear)
As far as Donny goes, I'm giving the nod to Draze for this argument not because it's myself that's involved but because he took rumble slots from people that requested them and got those spots only for Tim to take them away and replace them with vets. Donny is one of them. Logically the person with the most build and being most active in that match should've won, in which case that was me.
Also the changing of the rules mid rumble not once, not twice but three times was a clear indication of a screw job and a clear cut case of favoritism.
But its a done to death argument and Tim never apologized for it, nor will he ever. He knows he did wrong but won't admit it, and honestly I don't really care at this point.
Donny however didn't offer his shot, Tim forced him too. As far as the others that were involved in that match, I dropped out because ******** it why bother knowing I'd get screwed again. Nuke had family issues, and Shevs said he was gonna be inactive again. Kody also posted he was going to be away.
As far as promoing goes, that's essential if you're wrestling rping these days. Why would I a guild owner give a push to someone who doesn't show me they want it? How am I supposed to know you're in a feud or a storyline with someone if you don't post about it?
You don't have to write long promos, just basically follow these points
Who you are
What your business is? / What you're intending to do as champion
What you're aiming to do
Who are you feuding with/calling out
It's the same principle for everything:
Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How?
and its fine, no one expects you to make some ridiciously long drawn out promo that takes hours. Some people love it, some don't. You shouldn't feel obligated to out do someone because some guy wrote a ******** essay as a promo and you have a paragraph or two. Nor should you feel overwhelmed either.
Personally in my guild as long as you do something that gets me to notice you, you'll get pushed faster that's how I see it.
Like if I see someone like Claire post a promo and someone like Bianca isn't. I'm gonna notice Claire more. Then again if in response Bianca flashes the crowd which causes Claire to get jealous and try and outdo that then we've got a storyline going.
If promos aren't your thing find someone to promo for you, in which case you've got Justin. Morrison had Miz, Kozlov had Santino, Shad had JTG, Kane (masked) had Taker. SES & New Nexus had CM Punk, Corre has Wade. Brock had Paul Heyman.
You don't have to do promos if you get yourself noticed.
Sometimes they're essential, but not all the time. If you post like 50 promos I'm not going to take the time to read every single one of them because you'll start to repeat yourself.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:59 pm
I mean, I'll do a promo here and there- it ain't my strong suit... but I try to follow the outline that Chron here has posted.
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:01 pm
Yukari Clepsydra Speaking as a guild owner you want to try and differentiate yourself with other guilds. Meaning that you want do something different that brings people in, but at the same time you want to keep them familiar so they have a certain comfort zone so to speak. Sometimes stepping out of that box is a good thing, sometimes its not. I've learned this over the years. You'll see me test certain people to see if they can carry the ball and run with it, or trip and fail. As far as the profile thing goes, why? It wasn't needed and the amount of backlash that was received should've been the indication 'oh maybe this isn't the best of ideas' and not do it. I do see where he's coming from in wanting to be different in hindsight BUT if just about damn near everyone is adamant against not using it then why keep it? Also the ban on certain moves I can understand for a storyline, however there are variations to said move that are 'safe' however if you're doing a storyline in that case, it should've only affected the parties involved, NOT the entire guild. (a good example would be the banning of Taker's Hells Gate, or Edge's Spear) As far as Donny goes, I'm giving the nod to Draze for this argument not because it's myself that's involved but because he took rumble slots from people that requested them and got those spots only for Tim to take them away and replace them with vets. Donny is one of them. Logically the person with the most build and being most active in that match should've won, in which case that was me. Also the changing of the rules mid rumble not once, not twice but three times was a clear indication of a screw job and a clear cut case of favoritism. But its a done to death argument and Tim never apologized for it, nor will he ever. He knows he did wrong but won't admit it, and honestly I don't really care at this point. Donny however didn't offer his shot, Tim forced him too. As far as the others that were involved in that match, I dropped out because ******** it why bother knowing I'd get screwed again. Nuke had family issues, and Shevs said he was gonna be inactive again. Kody also posted he was going to be away. As far as promoing goes, that's essential if you're wrestling rping these days. Why would I a guild owner give a push to someone who doesn't show me they want it? How am I supposed to know you're in a feud or a storyline with someone if you don't post about it? You don't have to write long promos, just basically follow these points Who you are What your business is? / What you're intending to do as champion What you're aiming to do Who are you feuding with/calling out It's the same principle for everything: Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How? and its fine, no one expects you to make some ridiciously long drawn out promo that takes hours. Some people love it, some don't. You shouldn't feel obligated to out do someone because some guy wrote a ******** essay as a promo and you have a paragraph or two. Nor should you feel overwhelmed either. Personally in my guild as long as you do something that gets me to notice you, you'll get pushed faster that's how I see it. Like if I see someone like Claire post a promo and someone like Bianca isn't. I'm gonna notice Claire more. Then again if in response Bianca flashes the crowd which causes Claire to get jealous and try and outdo that then we've got a storyline going. If promos aren't your thing find someone to promo for you, in which case you've got Justin. Morrison had Miz, Kozlov had Santino, Shad had JTG, Kane (masked) had Taker. SES & New Nexus had CM Punk, Corre has Wade. Brock had Paul Heyman. You don't have to do promos if you get yourself noticed. Sometimes they're essential, but not all the time. If you post like 50 promos I'm not going to take the time to read every single one of them because you'll start to repeat yourself. that would be inaccurate. as soon as you and everyone else bitched in an open forum that donny could see, donny put up his shot out of character. tim agreed to it only because donny suggested it. it was not tim's idea, because he wanted donny to just go ahead and main event with me one on one and say screw what everyone else thought. it was donny i saw post the idea, it was brought up in crew that donny suggested putting it up because everyone else felt he didn't deserve it and donny himself did not care. donny, like myself, rps for the fun of it, and isn't so interested in titles and definitely not interested in politics. he said the way everyone made such a big deal over it was taking away from the fun, so to please everyone, he'd put up the shot and either earn it again or lose it. for the record, the four way has donny, nuke, cross, and mr. x since you backed out. i'm waiting to see whether tim, gbl, or myself has to end the matches for the PPV
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:06 pm
and match ended by tim. everyone can shut up on the rumble, as now nuke is number one contender after winning the four way
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