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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:13 am
It's strange. I find that as I go through life, people are very predictable yet none are typical. The end is always so easy to see but the ways people choose to get there differ. Yet in the end, I'm always right. People have called me a "paranoid ********" for being so wary and cynical of others, yet those same people claim me to "be always right" in the sense that every time I say something will happen, it happens. The question is only when and how it will happen. Yet it's really depressing to be right all the time. Makes you feel like the entire world is a stage with all the people mere puppets. Just that you're the only puppet who can see the strings. It's like if you know everything, what's the sense of knowing anything? You can't change it even if you want to. You know what's coming and no matter what you do to try to stop it, it will happen eventually. It seems there are no solutions to my problems. Only avoidances that will eventually come back to haunt me. All I can really do is prolong the inevitable simply because people are so predictable.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:18 pm
maui boy no ka oi Makes you feel like the entire world is a stage with all the people mere puppets.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:29 pm
Internet Noir maui boy no ka oi Makes you feel like the entire world is a stage with all the people mere puppets.  ROFL.
But to the op, that's what we call critical thinking. You're smart enough to realize and probably analyze peoples actions and reactions toward you and toward their own lives. That's not a bad thing, I do that all the time. It's whether you wanna change the monotony of it that is important here. You think you're right all the time, but that's what you think. Perhaps consider different views and outcomes for future situations. Or simply be more optimistic -- your thoughts and wishes really do change a lot.
If not, well, then ... OKAY. XD
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:39 pm
I agree with most things you said. To say that if you can predict everyone is the same thing as knowing everything though, I disagree.
In general, this mentality is kind of like the final stage of Buddhism. The idea that you are supposed to see yourself in almost third person and the situation around you.
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Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:56 pm
maui boy no ka oi It's strange. I find that as I go through life, people are very predictable yet none are typical. The end is always so easy to see but the ways people choose to get there differ. Yet in the end, I'm always right. People have called me a "paranoid ********" for being so wary and cynical of others, yet those same people claim me to "be always right" in the sense that every time I say something will happen, it happens. The question is only when and how it will happen. Yet it's really depressing to be right all the time. Makes you feel like the entire world is a stage with all the people mere puppets. Just that you're the only puppet who can see the strings. It's like if you know everything, what's the sense of knowing anything? You can't change it even if you want to. You know what's coming and no matter what you do to try to stop it, it will happen eventually. It seems there are no solutions to my problems. Only avoidances that will eventually come back to haunt me. All I can really do is prolong the inevitable simply because people are so predictable. lol this is me driving down the road.. "oh s**t that car is gonna cut me off. yep just happened..." "i know i'm gonna be stuck behind some slow person again on this road.. yep here they come now..." even i didn't know i was gonna flip that one girl off today though. lol
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Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:02 pm
Well what I mean by me always being right is that I've come to the understanding that everyone has set goals. These goals are both conscious and unconscious. Everyone is ultimately seeking to achieve a certain something and that is their "big plan" as I would call it. As I converse/associate myself with people, I take their words, actions, and the correlation between them into account to try to figure out what their "big plan/s" is. I can usually determine this within a month of regular interaction with them. From then on, whatever they do, I try to contrast it to what I believe their big plan to be and try to determine what shorter-term "little plans" they're undertaking. Then I contrast their actions/words once again to their "little plans" and from there I can predict their actions. The only thing that always remains obscure is the reason that they do the things they do. Thus I say that people are predictable (as in I can predict what they will do/try to do within a given period of time) but not typical (as in the reasons for them doing the things they do are almost never the same). Because I take the time to over-analyze pretty much every single person I come across, I'll (often jokingly) make little statements as to what I think certain people will do/say/etc. and many times, I turn out to be right. I never actually kept notice of the times I was right until about half a year ago when a friend of mine specifically asked me the question "Why do you always have to be right about everything? It gets kind of annoying after a while." From then on, I became more aware of my (unconscious) judgments of people and noticed that I really am right about many of the people I meet.
Now for specific responses:
@Tanya: I don't only analyze the actions of people towards me. I analyze the actions of people in general. Even if it's something as simple as where they decide to look when they break eye contact, the way they walk along with where they are looking while they walk, or even the way they choose to interact with their associates etc. All these tiny little details often hint to me what kind of person they are and what they are trying to do in life. As for monotony, I've told that very same friend who asked me "Why do you always have to be right about everything?" that I'm waiting for that one person to prove me wrong. So far that day has not come yet. Once I am concrete on my judgment of someone, no one has ever shown that I was incorrect in said judgment. My grandparents and certain friends call me paranoid and cynical, but how can they do so when the concerns I have are always well placed? As for optimism, I actually am an optimistic person. I'm always hoping for the best regardless of what my "gut" tells me. Even if I know that person is gonna ******** me over, I choose to "trust" (I put that in quotes because my version of trust is different than most peoples') them anyway. Yet every single time, they ******** me over. Never once have I thought to myself "This guy is gonna ******** me over" and had them not ******** me over. I've tried time and time again to influence the final outcome but always to no avail. And I do so through very interesting methods as well. More often than not it involves much deceit and lying. Fake tears, false prophecies, and empty statements have all been approaches I've tried without any success. I tell them what I really think they'll do and they do so anyway. I tell them the opposite of what I think they'll do and they do so anyway. It's really my belief that non-conformity is a myth. If people want to do something, they're gonna do it regardless of whether it is conformist or not. But that's a subject for another discussion.
@piru: It was actually more of an analogy. Trying to compare the ability to "predict the future" with omniscience in the sense that if you know everything, you have nothing left to learn and all you can do is sit around and do nothing as no matter what you do you can't learn anymore just as if you know what's gonna happen before it does, all you can do is sit around and do nothing as no matter what you do you can't change the end result (unless you do something drastic like kill the person or something). As for Buddhism, that seems kind of ironic as my grandparents are Buddhist and yet can't stand my mentality at all. It seems to me though that the only reason they can't stand me is because I can always predict what they're gonna do while they can never predict what I will do. Even when I explicitly tell them what I'm going to do, they choose not to listen and when I do exactly what I say I'm going to do, they say that they weren't expecting me to do so.
@edible: You know, something similar to that is how it all started. Very small things like that where I based my judgment entirely on the way they look, the way they act, and the way they talk without knowing anything else about them. It's just that it happened so often and each time I was right that my friend finally said that I was right all the time. That's when I took notice. In fact, many times I don't even need to see the way they act. Just by the way they type their sentences on an online document I can tell what kind of person they are and what they seek to do. Many times I engage in the action that many people online know as "trolling" just to prove to my friends just how predictable people are. I can tell them which ones will reply, which ones won't, which ones will bring a legitimate argument to the table, which ones will just blow smoke, which ones will troll back, and which ones will just give up.
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:28 pm
maui boy no ka oi @piru: It was actually more of an analogy. Trying to compare the ability to "predict the future" with omniscience in the sense that if you know everything, you have nothing left to learn and all you can do is sit around and do nothing as no matter what you do you can't learn anymore just as if you know what's gonna happen before it does, all you can do is sit around and do nothing as no matter what you do you can't change the end result (unless you do something drastic like kill the person or something). As for Buddhism, that seems kind of ironic as my grandparents are Buddhist and yet can't stand my mentality at all. It seems to me though that the only reason they can't stand me is because I can always predict what they're gonna do while they can never predict what I will do. Even when I explicitly tell them what I'm going to do, they choose not to listen and when I do exactly what I say I'm going to do, they say that they weren't expecting me to do so. They're not being very good at accepting life as it comes then. That's why I like to hang out in nature.. Never know what its going to do.
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:20 am
True you never know what it's going to do but you do notice tendencies. For example, we all know nature is all about survival. You can kind of predict what an animal will do based on that simple understanding. The reasons are always simple. The gazelle attacks the jaguar to protect its young. It's not seeking some kind of high political position in the animal kingdom in order to project its influence over other jaguars so that the gazelle becomes the dominant species. I honestly think that if we were all to see the world as simply as it really is we could understand it that much better.
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:53 pm
maui boy no ka oi It's strange. I find that as I go through life, people are very predictable yet none are typical. The end is always so easy to see but the ways people choose to get there differ. Yet in the end, I'm always right. People have called me a "paranoid ********" for being so wary and cynical of others, yet those same people claim me to "be always right" in the sense that every time I say something will happen, it happens. The question is only when and how it will happen. Yet it's really depressing to be right all the time. Makes you feel like the entire world is a stage with all the people mere puppets. Just that you're the only puppet who can see the strings. It's like if you know everything, what's the sense of knowing anything? You can't change it even if you want to. You know what's coming and no matter what you do to try to stop it, it will happen eventually. It seems there are no solutions to my problems. Only avoidances that will eventually come back to haunt me. All I can really do is prolong the inevitable simply because people are so predictable. If you place the rest of the world in this box, then you have to put yourself there as well. There is nothing original, individual or truly "creative", but there are many different people, places, things, ideologies and experiences. It is impossible to know it all, but the quest is surely admirable. I found that, with my own self, my secret arrogance was how much I valued my own perception, my own analysis and my own way. I saw through everyone else's schemes and vices and I never thought I had any of my own. One day I began to open my eyes and really see myself and the world and how I relate to it. We are all the same, we are all equal- but we are all different. There are multiple layers to everything, even when you can't see it- especially when you can't see it. Cynicism, to me, is when an optimist is failed time and time again and sees no other alternative. Truth is relative, it doesn't care if it will help or harm you by it's revealing. Instead of being underwhelmed by the world and the subtle disappointments, why not take the world out of the box you're building for it? Take /yourself/ out of the box you've built.
///end
No rudeness intended, so I hope it didn't come off this way. I hope that things get, I don't know, easier?
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