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Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:14 pm
Here's a hypothetical situation:
You work your butt off in one AP class. The class covers roughly a chapter a week, and you spend 2-3 hours in one sitting taking notes for that chapter to use on the (still very difficult) open-notes chapter quizzes. Averages for those quizzes are C's and D's, but you manage to score B's and A's. You're fighting for that A that you somehow still have in that class.
To cut to the point, there's a girl who you know is cheating off of your answers. This is made possible by the fact that we grade our own quizzes. We swap with a partner, and we grade each other's. This girl should be getting D's and F's, but because she's taken such liberty with your answers, she's been getting C's and even B's.
You feel sick to your stomach that (1) this has been going on since the beginning of January and (2) you've actually been such a wimp to let her continuously cheat off your answers without even a direct confrontation (though there was an indirect - and therefore unsuccessful - one).
So you want to do something. And you're debating what to do.
Should you...
...send an anonymous email to the teacher, requesting that you've noticed a problem with cheating in the class and that you'd like the grading procedure to be accordingly adjusted?
...go see the teacher yourself and talk about it? Should you single out the girl or leave things generic?
The problem is that, again, you're a pathetic wimp and you don't want to be implicated in this whole situation that will inevitably occur if you reveal her name to the teacher. You know that she knows that you're suspicious of her. You know that she will know it was you who revealed her.
What would you do?
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:39 am
scream Hire a Russian to kill her! sweatdrop
I'd like a bit more information on this girls attitude. If you brought this up with her face to face, how would she react?
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:03 am
-cough- I was the cheater in school ( at least in some classes )
I would send the anon email. or tell the girl to cut her s**t.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:33 am
Tell her to cut the crap and STFU. talk2hand
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:15 am
I think cheating is absolutely awful, selfish, and immature. I was a hard worker in school, and I sure as hell wasn't working hard so that I could give anyone else a free ride. I told on quite a few cheaters when I was in school, and I was always glad that I did.
By not saying anything at all you're just letting her get away with it. You're letting her take advantage of you and of the teacher's trust. You're showing her that cheating is profitable, which means she'll likely continue to do it.
So I would definitely tell the teacher. I would be specific about who is cheating and how they are cheating. The teacher needs to know as many details as possible in order to hopefully deal with the issue and punish the cheater.
Who cares if the cheater knows you told on her? She's either not your friend or not someone you should be friends with anyway. If she threatens you or anything crazy like that, tell someone immediately.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:17 am
Quote: To cut to the point, there's a girl who you know is cheating off of your answers. This is made possible by the fact that we grade our own quizzes. We swap with a partner, and we grade each other's. This girl should be getting D's and F's, but because she's taken such liberty with your answers, she's been getting C's and even B's. Wait, how is she cheating? You are grading her quiz? Can't you mark them as wrong or is she changing the grade when you give it back?
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:23 pm
Yeah, how exactly is she doing the cheating?
Also, I use to may it super hard to cheat. I would use my body, papers, ect. to cover my tests so people trying to look at it couldn't.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:30 pm
Tell her to cut it out and do her own work.
I used to occasionally cheat from other cheaters, being that they'd have a cheat sheet where they could see and so could I. I glanced on occasion but never to where the person or teacher knew I was. Often the cheater would get caught but I wouldn't. :p
I am a smooth criminal. cool
[Edit] That's not to say that I needed to cheat, I was checking my answers and assuring I didn't fail the whole thing.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:50 pm
@ tina138, rofl
On a more serious note though, I can't imagine a confrontation doing much good for me. She's probably the type of person to bring out the attitude and the dismissive remarks. It wouldn't really have an effect on her, especially since I know I can suck at confrontations.
@ Kira, Yeah, that's what I'm leaning towards. I'm going to send an anon email, and if nothing's happened by the time the next quiz has rolled around, then I'll speak with the teacher face-to-face.
@ Official Maxim the Jager, Indeed p:
@ LorienLlewellyn, The problem I have with telling the teacher her name is that, again, I have no solid evidence whatsoever - it's only my word against hers.
In the unlikely case of her actually threatening me (from her personality, there's no way she would have the guts to do that), I would definitely tell someone immediately.
@ pirulaso, What we do is take the quizzes, and then the next day, the teacher hands them back to us by placing it on our desks. She takes this opportunity to glance at some of my answers and then change her own. I've never caught her in the act (for which I could hit myself for my obliviousness since her changes are so obvious), but I don't have any solid proof, so, even if I ask her which answer she meant to put down, she has no qualms about lying, and I can't mark the answers wrong at the moment.
@ Pudding Raven, I actually successfully hid my answers from her today. Our teacher has a sporadic way of when to grade quizzes, but today I finally caught onto it early, and just hid my answers as soon as it was handed back to me.
She got an F.
But that's still 6 too many times she's cheated off of me, so I'm still planning to at least send an anon email.
@ Deathgod of Legend, Yeah, we'll see how it all works out with her.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 3:57 pm
burning_eyes Confrontation bad.
I hope your matter at school can be resolved peacefully 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 4:09 pm
MWAHAHAHA F FOR THE b***h! (wait can i say that in this guild? if not sorry, ill edit.) Yesh I say anon email, and remember to mention that this is happening because of his grading methods. Suggest that he do it himself, or perhaps and them out randomly so you correct someone else's and then get yours back(?), some teachers of mine do that...
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:27 pm
Personally, I don't mind cheaters. I purposefully don't bother to cover my answers. I think the testing system is what's dumb to begin with and people who aren't good at memorizing or learning that way are penalized to begin with. I understand that it's frustrating you work for your marks and she doesn't, but it's not like she's getting As, she's still only getting Cs-Bs.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 6:03 pm
Trayne Personally, I don't mind cheaters. I purposefully don't bother to cover my answers. I think the testing system is what's dumb to begin with and people who aren't good at memorizing or learning that way are penalized to begin with. I understand that it's frustrating you work for your marks and she doesn't, but it's not like she's getting As, she's still only getting Cs-Bs. You're supposed to memorize it for a reason, to know it at a later occasion. If you can't remember what you're supposed to for a test, then you won't remember it when you might need it.
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Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:39 pm
Deathgod of Legend Trayne Personally, I don't mind cheaters. I purposefully don't bother to cover my answers. I think the testing system is what's dumb to begin with and people who aren't good at memorizing or learning that way are penalized to begin with. I understand that it's frustrating you work for your marks and she doesn't, but it's not like she's getting As, she's still only getting Cs-Bs. You're supposed to memorize it for a reason, to know it at a later occasion. If you can't remember what you're supposed to for a test, then you won't remember it when you might need it. Well, first of all, there's trying to learn something in a week or even a day or two, and then there's learning something over a decent amount of time. Also, memorization, is not the same as understanding. Third, most teachers know that most of the things you memorize for a test, you forget after, especially the dumb details irrelevant to what you actually need to know. Most importantly, there are few situations in real life when you won't be able to look something up to double check if you remembered it right.
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