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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:50 am


In a nutshell, Mantic is now dipping its toe into self-contained board games after releasing a battle game of their own. The first game, Dwarf King Hold - Dead Rising can be best described as Space Hulk with Dwarves and Skeletons. wink

Someone from Dakka Dakka attended the weekend demo game today. here's what he has to say about it:

Panic
Yeah,
So I went to the first Mantic : Dwarf King’s Hold: Dead Rising ; preview demo.

I was disappointed that the demo was run on the game development tiles.
The Tile artwork is still work in progress, but it would have been nice to demo on preview tiles.
The game is still in development so the rules presented will be tweaked before release..
This left the demo with more of a PlayTesting feel to it, and several observations from my game were recorded to report back to Mantic HQ.

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Models.
I asked what do you get in the box. from memory I believe you get;
10x basic skeletons
10x reavers? (better skeletons)
some undead skeleton dogs.
some catapult crew? (I think the guy said they have bits that let you make unique skeletons)

5 regular dwarfs
5 hammer dwarfs
Some Dwarf mastiffs (can stop piles of bones getting back up)
There was a dwarf king in the demo game I guess you get him too.

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The game is very fast paced and fun. It strikes me as space hulk in a dungeon; which is no bad thing.

each turn you draw tokens to find out how many actions your side can make during the turn.
In the demo if the dwarfs run out of tokens they lose... This puts a turn limit on the game.
Each model can only recieve one action per turn except Some dwarf tokens marked F.O.A. (follow on actions) which allows a dwarf to make a extra action that turn.
Moving and attacking counts as a single action. which ment for most turns every model gets to move and attack, with some dwarfs being given F.O.A. to move again or attack twice.

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You move then attack.
dwarfs move 6 squares. skeletons move 4 squares.
dwarfs have 4 attacks skeletons have 2 attacks
dwarfs have a armour value of 3, skeletons armour value is 2.

Combat in the game is decided by diceing off with a number of dice according to your WS
only the attacker does damage.
Attack dice that roll higher than the AV damage the defender, unless the defenders defence dice rolls equal to or higher than each successful attack.
Dwarfs WS4 vs skeletons WS2

this then hits a number of modifiers.
-1 dice if your injured
-1 dice if your being attacked from behind
-1 dice if your being attacked by multiple enemies

You can gang up and combine attack dice so;
3 skeletons fighting 1 dwarf would roll 6 attack dice (WS2 x3), the dwarf would defend with 3 dice (WS4 -1 for being outnumbered)
2 Dwarfs fighting 1 skeleton would roll 8 attack dice to the skeletons 1 defence dice...

Dwarfs have two wounds.

Skeletons dont have wounds but suffer various results depending on the number of hits it recieves
1 hit - ignored
2 hits - drops to a pile of bones (can get up again next turn for 1 action point)
3 hits - killed

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I played a demo game against a guy called Kevin.
I was Dwarfs and started at the entrance with 3 warriors, my objective is to save the King in the last room lying on his side.
The undead player gets 10 skeletons.

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by fighting at the choke points I held out and reduced kevin to 1 skeleton.
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I was on my last turn- running out of tokens - but I drew 3 FOA tokens and just ran through to the last room and saved the king... yayy me!
But it seemed like a weird finish to the game, and probably disappointed Kevin.
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Tile Design concept images from Beasts of War .
I was told the final version will be full colour with directional lighting effects on thick card.
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video on the mantic website



In conclusion.
It seems like you'll get a good amount of stuff in the box.
I have high hopes for this game If they can iron out the bugs in the game.


Panic...
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:47 am


An interesting concept, I'm curious about the pricing and the production quality of the tiles though. Also judging from the demo game shown the games are played on small maps with a limited amount of models per game.

I do like the idea of letting a dog stop a skeleton from resurrecting again. And you get a fair amount of models from the look of it, 40 models tops plus cardboard tiles that will have future expansions sounds good.

I guess we can expect a full review of the final product once it goes on sale. wink

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:28 am


Wayland Games has it up for pre-order at a discounted price of £31.00 ($49.91 / €36.88 ), listing the normal retail price as £34.99 ($56.33 / €41.62), release date is the 29th of March world-wide, though there might be a slight chance of postponement as the game is still being worked on, both rule-wise and material wise.

IMHO the game is reasonably priced, but it remains to be seen as to what the final contents are. Though seeing as the set already includes a box of regular skellies and revenants, which go at £7.99 / $14.99 / €11.49 per box, you might be getting yourself a bargain depending on the actual amount of dwarves (Shield Breakers and Ironclads for those wondering) included and the quality and quantity of the cardboard tiles.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:17 am


Mantic Games
The much anticipated Dwarf King's Hold board game is here! It sees the steadfast Dwarfs seek to reclaim their ancestral home from the living dead, venturing forth to fight the foul minions of the Necromancer who soil the noble halls of the Dwarf King’s Hold.

This is a 2 player, scenario based board game, with one player taking control of the Dwarfs, while the other commands the Undead. There are 6 scenarios to play through, each build upon each other, culminating in a huge, desperate battle which will ultimately decide who controls the King's Hold

Included in this game are over 25 plastic figures including 5 Dwarf Ironclad Warriors, 2 Shieldbreakers, 12 Skeletons and 10 Revenants. There are lots of little extras that are fully usable within the game, such as the Dwarf Pit Dog, the dead Dwarf, piles of bones plus plenty of fun conversion bits.

You also get a huge pile of fantastic looking dungeon tiles; an elegant, innovative Rules-set, loads of in-game action counters and more than enough dice to play!

This set includes:
• Dwarf Kings Hold Ruleset
• Dice
• 5 Dwarf Ironclad Warriors
• 2 Shieldbreakers
• 12 Skeletons
• 10 Revenants
• A full dungeon's worth of tiles
• In-game acton counters
• Mantic Guide

Models supplied unassembled and unpainted.


Not as many minis as I had hoped for. sad

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:07 am


Can't win 'em all. Still good value for what is included, you don't get Space Hulk numbers of models, but you also don't pay that Space Hulk price for the kit! wink

I've seen some concepts of the dungeon tiles and I've got a good feeling about the final product. All in all I can't wait for this to hit the shelves and have a few games to see how it works out.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:25 pm


How about this, you get a copy, I'll paint the models when I'm home, I've developed a massive itch for anything hobby related as of late. crying

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:47 pm


Lady Blodwynn
How about this, you get a copy, I'll paint the models when I'm home, I've developed a massive itch for anything hobby related as of late. crying
Deal. Besides, it beats playing this against my brother, the WAAC jerk.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:49 pm


Lt. Brookman
Lady Blodwynn
How about this, you get a copy, I'll paint the models when I'm home, I've developed a massive itch for anything hobby related as of late. crying
Deal. Besides, it beats playing this against my brother, the WAAC jerk.
Dibs on the dwarves? wink

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:29 am


Lady Blodwynn
Lt. Brookman
Lady Blodwynn
How about this, you get a copy, I'll paint the models when I'm home, I've developed a massive itch for anything hobby related as of late. crying
Deal. Besides, it beats playing this against my brother, the WAAC jerk.
Dibs on the dwarves? wink
Translation: I want you to raid my hold.
PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:15 am


I should be picking the game up this Saturday, my FLGS got my copy today, stay tuned for a first impression of the game and. fingers crossed, a review.

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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:28 pm


Got the game yesterday and we've played it a few times. It takes some getting used to and really is something else with the token system. The models are so-so and the amount of tiles is rather low, the box has a whole lot of empty space to it sadly, it is no box filler like Space Hulk. Also, the tiles do not interlock, which is a shame. We'll be playing a few more games before giving it a final verdict.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:45 am


We wanted that verdict yesterday! I've got money to spend!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:47 am


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:23 pm


Tokens, this game likes them.

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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:40 pm


This game is okay, nothing more nothing less sadly.
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