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 Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:51 pm
Never Stop Dreaming....Make me want to boil small animals in the largest pot I can find. These kids make me feel like the smartest kid in the class- that is saying something. Sometimes I really wonder if there is a limit to how dumb the human mind can really get.
Of That Beautiful Place..
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:55 pm
Ha, I know how you feel. Though all things considered, one can not simply group all of a single type of person under one label.
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:12 pm
Can't say I've ever had that problem - NZ kids were never that thick. I felt gifted without being horrible about the intellect of the kids around me.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:12 am
Krissi-Chaos Can't say I've ever had that problem - NZ kids were never that thick. I felt gifted without being horrible about the intellect of the kids around me. That's why Americans are viewed as they are... Though I have heard some horror stories of shockingly stupid Aussie's too.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:52 am
sicanne Ha, I know how you feel. Though all things considered, one can not simply group all of a single type of person under one label.
That is oh so true, luckily, I have this guild and find myself in the pressence of respectable minds whenever I post here.
But that label is not simply based off of school. It's based off that fact that I've met teenagers that can't even spell "talk" correctly. And yes- they were American. I just think that in today's society, children aren't as hard pressed about reading and education as they used to be.
Of That Beautiful Place..
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 2:41 pm
Tea Panda O_0 sicanne Ha, I know how you feel. Though all things considered, one can not simply group all of a single type of person under one label.
That is oh so true, luckily, I have this guild and find myself in the pressence of respectable minds whenever I post here.
But that label is not simply based off of school. It's based off that fact that I've met teenagers that can't even spell "talk" correctly. And yes- they were American. I just think that in today's society, children aren't as hard pressed about reading and education as they used to be.
Of That Beautiful Place..
Personally, I believe it is less that we aren't as hard-pressed to learn it, but more that the average American teen actively tries to un-learn what they have been taught, or simply ignore their teachers. A prime example, and one of my pet-peeves:
An elementary teacher's job is to prepare their students for the future by providing them with the rudimentary abilities to do basic math, understand basic concepts in Social Studies, and to read and write in Proper English. When I was growing up, this carried on rather successfully until wide-spread usage of the incredibly useful abomination of the cell phone came to be- which really started in my area during my high school years, or roughly 8-9 years ago (holy crap, I'm starting to feel old...).
Since cell phones became a popular and "must have" accessory of the modern teen, I've noticed a severe drop in the ability for teenagers to properly use the English language, which is by far the single most important thing for any American to know in order to succeed at a job better than low-tier jobs such as fry cooks, cashiers and stockers (to name a few).
And yet, despite the fact they they were previously armed with this important information, I've never seen something so actively unlearned and disgraced in my life. The abomination of "txt-tlk" is so atrocious that I believe that English teachers across the country should be focusing on making sure that their students are retaining this information along with teaching them what they "need to know" for their futures, whatever that may be.
If I ever became an English teacher, my students would hate me. I would literally be forcing them to use their computers' Spell Checker (and possibly the Grammar Check as well) or hand them F's on their assignments for piss-poor spelling and improper use of grammar. The concepts of the English language are not difficult to understand.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:12 pm
Eliae Darr When I was growing up, this carried on rather successfully until wide-spread usage of the incredibly useful abomination of the cell phone came to be- which really started in my area during my high school years, or roughly 8-9 years ago. You're placing the blame all wrong. It isn't the tool but the tool's misuse that is the problem. My family started using cellphones when we got stranded behind an accident on an icy road and traffic was at a standstill and we never stopped since. And why should we? Why should anyone? Eliae Darr Since cell phones became a popular and "must have" accessory of the modern teen, I've noticed a severe drop in the ability for teenagers to properly use the English language, which is by far the single most important thing for any American to know in order to succeed at a job better than low-tier jobs such as fry cooks, cashiers and stockers (to name a few). Few that I have ever encounter value being well spoken more than I, and I think that each and every one of you can attest to that statement. That said, of all the skills I have found, there are possibly none that have been less useful to me in getting a good job. Each and every one of you probably knows at least a dozen people with literally half of my mastery of the English language and many, many times my income. On this one, it's all rather very simple. You're just wrong, James. You speak of how things should be rather than how they are. In your other points, however, you are quite correct.
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:33 pm
Tea Panda O_0 sicanne Ha, I know how you feel. Though all things considered, one can not simply group all of a single type of person under one label.
That is oh so true, luckily, I have this guild and find myself in the pressence of respectable minds whenever I post here.
But that label is not simply based off of school. It's based off that fact that I've met teenagers that can't even spell "talk" correctly. And yes- they were American. I just think that in today's society, children aren't as hard pressed about reading and education as they used to be.
Of That Beautiful Place..
I can't say that I disagree.
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:39 pm
Matasoga Eliae Darr When I was growing up, this carried on rather successfully until wide-spread usage of the incredibly useful abomination of the cell phone came to be- which really started in my area during my high school years, or roughly 8-9 years ago. You're placing the blame all wrong. It isn't the tool but the tool's misuse that is the problem. My family started using cellphones when we got stranded behind an accident on an icy road and traffic was at a standstill and we never stopped since. And why should we? Why should anyone? You're right, it is the misuse of cell phones that seems to have been the cause, but I'm still standing by that statement, as it was a blanket statement for the average teen, who will naturally misuse most any technology that they are handed, even if they understand how to properly use it. I will not be making any changes to the original post, nor will I be changing my opinion on it.
The example you gave, however, is a valid reason to have and use a cell phone, though I'm not sure why you were asking why anyone should stop; I never once said that they should. Matasoga Eliae Darr Since cell phones became a popular and "must have" accessory of the modern teen, I've noticed a severe drop in the ability for teenagers to properly use the English language, which is by far the single most important thing for any American to know in order to succeed at a job better than low-tier jobs such as fry cooks, cashiers and stockers (to name a few). Few that I have ever encounter value being well spoken more than I, and I think that each and every one of you can attest to that statement. That said, of all the skills I have found, there are possibly none that have been less useful to me in getting a good job. Each and every one of you probably knows at least a dozen people with literally half of my mastery of the English language and many, many times my income. On this one, it's all rather very simple. You're just wrong, James. You speak of how things should be rather than how they are. In your other points, however, you are quite correct. Wrong? I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you, and greatly so, Josh. While I do agree that there are a lot of people who know less than half of what we do of the English language, but to say they use chatspeak or "txt tlk" for work would be derogatory even for them.
No, my point was not about the mastery of the English language, but about the simple knowledge to use it properly. That does not, by any stretch of the imagination, mean that I was saying that anyone looking to have a high-paying job should be masters of their language. Being able to read and write in proper English is still very important to those jobs, even if the mastery thereof is not.
So no, I don't believe that I am wrong about that. I simply believe that you misconstrued my statements to meaning more than what they were intended to. If you talk to anyone making a decent income that is our age, they may not be "master of the English language," by they sure as hell know it a lot better than 90% of todays teens, and that's enough. Most of them would probably not have their jobs for long if they couldn't spell worth a damn or lacked the same rudimentary grammatical skills as most teens.
Please, Josh, the next time you feel that I'm wrong like this, take a step back and try not to read so far into it because honestly, I'm not so shallow as to believe that mastery is everything.
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:45 am
sicanne Tea Panda O_0 sicanne Ha, I know how you feel. Though all things considered, one can not simply group all of a single type of person under one label.
That is oh so true, luckily, I have this guild and find myself in the pressence of respectable minds whenever I post here.
But that label is not simply based off of school. It's based off that fact that I've met teenagers that can't even spell "talk" correctly. And yes- they were American. I just think that in today's society, children aren't as hard pressed about reading and education as they used to be.
Of That Beautiful Place..
I can't say that I disagree.
Please, feel free to elaborate.
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:56 am
Matasoga Krissi-Chaos Can't say I've ever had that problem - NZ kids were never that thick. I felt gifted without being horrible about the intellect of the kids around me. That's why Americans are viewed as they are... Though I have heard some horror stories of shockingly stupid Aussie's too. New Zealand is not Australia. At all. So they can continue being shockingly stupid on their island, and we New Zealanders will continue being intelligent on ours. Also, mind your possesive apostrophes.
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:36 pm
Krissi-Chaos Matasoga Krissi-Chaos Can't say I've ever had that problem - NZ kids were never that thick. I felt gifted without being horrible about the intellect of the kids around me. That's why Americans are viewed as they are... Though I have heard some horror stories of shockingly stupid Aussie's too. New Zealand is not Australia. At all. So they can continue being shockingly stupid on their island, and we New Zealanders will continue being intelligent on ours. Also, mind your possesive apostrophes. I'm not so sure how that apostrophe got there, but do you mean "Possessive"? Let's not play corrections, hun. I don't like that game. I know that. I only make any association at all because they're not too terribly far geographically. It's not as though I was the first one to make the association. See for example: ANZAC.
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Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:39 am
Tea Panda O_0 sicanne Tea Panda O_0 sicanne Ha, I know how you feel. Though all things considered, one can not simply group all of a single type of person under one label.
That is oh so true, luckily, I have this guild and find myself in the pressence of respectable minds whenever I post here.
But that label is not simply based off of school. It's based off that fact that I've met teenagers that can't even spell "talk" correctly. And yes- they were American. I just think that in today's society, children aren't as hard pressed about reading and education as they used to be.
Of That Beautiful Place..
I can't say that I disagree.
Please, feel free to elaborate.
I myself have met certain teenagers in person, that I could not understand. Simply because of the way they talk. I'm not referring to speech impediments, and the like. They actually spoke as if they were in an internet forum. "OMG, liek noo wai!!!!one." >.>
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:39 pm
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:48 pm
I've read that somewhere before, though I don't remember where. It's quite gross.
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