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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:51 am


Hello all, before you read what I have to say know this, there is no proof in my claims, there is only my own personal opinion and experiences.

My cousin suffers from Autism, a genetic abnormality relating to the brain that is often classified as a group that have Limited Mental Capacity. This is bullshit. Suffers of Autism and quite often more intelligent then other ordinary people. I personally suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, an abnormality that is similar to Autism in many ways. People with the genetic abnormality have the tendency to avoid eye contact or any emotional connections... And they are considered handicapped because of this... Why? I personally see all emotional attachment as a hinderence... Maybe because I grew up with none partially due to my Limited Mental Capacity and my lack of father or a loving mother, I'm not closed to others opinions... Anyway thats all I have to personally say on the matter, comments appreciated


P.S. I used many terms often used by people dealing with these matters in Italics, I'm pointing out terms I find offensive.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:16 am


i dont belive in evolution

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:51 am


I don't think you understand how serious Autistism is. For many, they have asperger's and with a few years of therapy, they can be a normal human being, but for many, they are retarded, they are in their own little world and they can't survive on their own. Hell some of them are so messed up, they forget to eat.

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i dont belive in evolution

Is that out of ignorance or do you fear that believing in evolution is a sin or contradicting to your faith?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:41 pm



I've never actually heard someone with has a 'limited mental capacity' They just think and focus differently than other people. My cousin has autism, and yes, sometimes they may be seen as stupid because they don't always communicate as well as the rest of us, but sometimes I think that's more of a choice than it is an inability.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:23 pm


The term "limited mental capacity" doesnt always refer to their intelligence. It refers to how well they can communicate and understand others as well. For example, ever met a kid w/ Non-Verbal autism? They dont talk, and they often wont respond when others are speaking to them.

Their personal development is also hindered.
Some kids w/ full blown Autism will stay in diapers for years, up until like 10 or 11 years old. They cant feed themselves until a late age. They have to go on a STRICT schedule about when to eat, when to bathe, when to sleep or their world goes out of whack.

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I personally suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, an abnormality that is similar to Autism in many ways. People with the genetic abnormality have the tendency to avoid eye contact or any emotional connections... And they are considered handicapped because of this... Why?


My husband has it as well. And it sounds like you have a high functioning Aspergers. There is a scale of how one suffers from their Aspergers. You are correct in avoiding emotional connections. But then there is this social awkwardness which is needed in most everyday situations.

For example, a person with A.S could be asked.."How are you today?"

May as well be rhetorical, because the person who asked usually doesn't give a s**t how you are. Some people with A.S do not understand social cues and context the way "ordinary" people do. So where I would say "Fine thanks" My husband will go on and on and have this monologue about how he REALLY is.

It's very strange, at times embarrassing, but he's still a loving person and I accept it.

Don't be offended by this, but I seriously think you should volunteer with a special education center or class. I dont think you fully understand what Autism is and how many ways it effects a person.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:23 pm


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I don't think you understand how serious Autistism is. For many, they have asperger's and with a few years of therapy, they can be a normal human being, but for many, they are retarded, they are in their own little world and they can't survive on their own. Hell some of them are so messed up, they forget to eat.

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i dont belive in evolution

Is that out of ignorance or do you fear that believing in evolution is a sin or contradicting to your faith?

no i just dont belive in it... a*****e, perhaps you need to stop bashing anybody who follows a religon ?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:17 pm


humans possess the ability to adapt, change as our world does, to me i think evolution is a gift from god as a world that never changes lacks a point for oroganic life
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:26 pm


ps hes trying to say just because autisitic people dont function the way we think they should doesnt mean they have there good points, autism does have some pros along with major cons. its all in how you use it. like my obessive compulsive disorder and add are deemed disorders but i like that i focous on things that matter to me and pay attention to little detials its saved a carnie or twos life granted i dont know the machine i can tell when its out of place. granted it sucks im rideing my train of thought sometimes when reality needs my attention. i can still use this for things that dont require me being overly fluid somthing im working to get better at through eye exisirises

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:43 pm


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The term "limited mental capacity" doesnt always refer to their intelligence. It refers to how well they can communicate and understand others as well. For example, ever met a kid w/ Non-Verbal autism? They dont talk, and they often wont respond when others are speaking to them.

Their personal development is also hindered.
Some kids w/ full blown Autism will stay in diapers for years, up until like 10 or 11 years old. They cant feed themselves until a late age. They have to go on a STRICT schedule about when to eat, when to bathe, when to sleep or their world goes out of whack.

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I personally suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, an abnormality that is similar to Autism in many ways. People with the genetic abnormality have the tendency to avoid eye contact or any emotional connections... And they are considered handicapped because of this... Why?


My husband has it as well. And it sounds like you have a high functioning Aspergers. There is a scale of how one suffers from their Aspergers. You are correct in avoiding emotional connections. But then there is this social awkwardness which is needed in most everyday situations.

For example, a person with A.S could be asked.."How are you today?"

May as well be rhetorical, because the person who asked usually doesn't give a s**t how you are. Some people with A.S do not understand social cues and context the way "ordinary" people do. So where I would say "Fine thanks" My husband will go on and on and have this monologue about how he REALLY is.

It's very strange, at times embarrassing, but he's still a loving person and I accept it.

Don't be offended by this, but I seriously think you should volunteer with a special education center or class. I dont think you fully understand what Autism is and how many ways it effects a person.



Yeah, as you can imagine I'm anti-social, I honestly had to train myself to pick up mainstream social cues if you will... One thing that drives me to near pulling out my hair is when people ask "how are you" you might say "Good yourself?" and then they ignore you... Or you ask the "How are you" and they just ignore it and even then they might say "how are you?" back.

People are so revoltingly plastic and shallow... And so stupid!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:38 pm


i still think modern physology throws around the term disorder too easily

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:42 pm


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i still think modern physology throws around the term disorder too easily
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:53 pm


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I don't think you understand how serious Autistism is. For many, they have asperger's and with a few years of therapy, they can be a normal human being, but for many, they are retarded, they are in their own little world and they can't survive on their own. Hell some of them are so messed up, they forget to eat.

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i dont belive in evolution

Is that out of ignorance or do you fear that believing in evolution is a sin or contradicting to your faith?

no i just dont belive in it... a*****e, perhaps you need to stop bashing anybody who follows a religon ?
Being religious and not believing in evolution are 2 very irrelevant comparisons.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:05 pm


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I don't think you understand how serious Autistism is. For many, they have asperger's and with a few years of therapy, they can be a normal human being, but for many, they are retarded, they are in their own little world and they can't survive on their own. Hell some of them are so messed up, they forget to eat.

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i dont belive in evolution

Is that out of ignorance or do you fear that believing in evolution is a sin or contradicting to your faith?

no i just dont belive in it... a*****e, perhaps you need to stop bashing anybody who follows a religon ?



I bash people who follow Religion especially when they can't even spell the ******** word.

I mean is it me or are like 90% of younger generation christfags stupid as people with real retardation? Most of them have never even picked up a bible or they just don't know half of it... If I was going to live my life according to a book written 2000 years ago by a group of men I'd want to know what it says... Also people who say god wrote the bible... Go die in a hole, I can't stand that bullshit.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:20 pm


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I bash people who follow Religion especially when they can't even spell the ******** word.

I mean is it me or are like 90% of younger generation christfags stupid as people with real retardation? Most of them have never even picked up a bible or they just don't know half of it... If I was going to live my life according to a book written 2000 years ago by a group of men I'd want to know what it says... Also people who say god wrote the bible... Go die in a hole, I can't stand that bullshit.


1) Dont say "retardation" thats an old word and no longer used to describe the mentally handicapped.

2) I can agree kind of with you. When you say that Many Christians have never even read the Bible they claim to follow. But just because someone IS a Christian and DOES deny evolution, dont you think you're being a bit harsh?

After all, everyone IS entitled to their own opinion no matter how little they back it up.

Ohai I'm Muslim.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:41 pm


Official Sasuke Uchiha
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God Emperor Akhenaton
I don't think you understand how serious Autistism is. For many, they have asperger's and with a few years of therapy, they can be a normal human being, but for many, they are retarded, they are in their own little world and they can't survive on their own. Hell some of them are so messed up, they forget to eat.

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i dont belive in evolution

Is that out of ignorance or do you fear that believing in evolution is a sin or contradicting to your faith?

no i just dont belive in it... a*****e, perhaps you need to stop bashing anybody who follows a religon ?



I bash people who follow Religion especially when they can't even spell the ******** word.

I mean is it me or are like 90% of younger generation christfags stupid as people with real retardation? Most of them have never even picked up a bible or they just don't know half of it... If I was going to live my life according to a book written 2000 years ago by a group of men I'd want to know what it says... Also people who say god wrote the bible... Go die in a hole, I can't stand that bullshit.

On the same topic, I love how most hardcore Christians read little tid bits of the Bible or only one book instead of all of them. What makes it more ironic is when one of my friends, who was EXTREMELY religious, was reading all the books over and over to prepare for the books. He started being turned off by things like the five books of Jesus's tomb and the old testament. He pretty much became agnostic. He was the most knowledgeable Christian I knew and believed in God, and stopped because he was actually reading the books. That should say something, huh?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that God or any god is a hoax even though I don't believe in one. I just think it's funny on how the large majority of people who follow the bible have no idea what it fully contains. Then, most people I know who do bother going through the books end up converting. Ha.


I will say this, though, religion shouldn't cause you to not believe in Evolution. Being stupid should.
Stupid is probably the best term, considering most people who deny it have terrible arguments.
" DUR! DINOSAURS DIDN'T LOSE THEIR LEGS AND TURN INTO SNAKES! THAT'S DUMB!"
" DDUURR! IF HUMANS EXIST, WHY ARE THERE STILL APES?! "
" DUH! THERE AREN'T ANY PREHISTORIC EXISTING FOSSILS! "

Religion is no excuse for not believing in evolution, only ignorance is. If you look around, there is tons of evidence to point to the fact that evolution is real, and is a fact. Saying it isn't without the very least of researching it instead of listening to how others explain it is silly.
Ever seen the movie Teeth and how they act about evolution when they are discussing it in class? Although I hate the fact how the monster in there is formed by evolution that defies evolutionary laws, how they start bagging on evolution is how most bag on it and they use the most ridiculous reasons. It's stupid.
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