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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:28 am


--Yes I said Rocket Fuel.


http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/02/03/epa_to_limit_rocket_fuel_chemical_in_tap_water/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Top+political+stories

EPA to limit rocket fuel chemical in tap water

Associated Press / February 3, 2011

WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency is setting the first federal drinking water standard for a toxic rocket fuel ingredient linked to thyroid problems in pregnant women and young children, the Obama administration announced yesterday.

Environmental Protection Agency administrator Lisa Jackson said that setting the standard will protect public health and spark new technologies to clean up drinking water.

Based on monitoring conducted from 2001 to 2005, 153 drinking water sources in 26 states contain perchlorate.

The standard could take up to two years to develop, the EPA said.

Perchlorate is also used in fireworks and explosives. In most cases, water contamination has been caused by improper disposal at rocket testing sites, military bases, and chemical plants.

Democrats, who have pushed for the EPA to regulate perchlorate, say the decision shows the administration is standing up for rules that protect public health, even if they burden business.

“It doesn’t take rocket science to keep rocket fuel out of our drinking water supply,’’ said Representative Edward Markey, a Malden Democrat. “It it just takes sound science, and I commend the administrator for taking this step.’’

© Copyright 2011 Globe Newspaper Company.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2011/02/03/epa_to_limit_rocket_fuel_chemical_in_tap_water/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+Top+political+stories




Out-Dated/Older News Article Below:




http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/07/8782

Published on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 by Associated Press
EPA Might Not Act To Limit Rocket Fuel in Drinking Water
by Erica Werner

WASHINGTON - An EPA official said Tuesday there's a "distinct possibility" the agency won't take action to rid drinking water of a toxic rocket fuel ingredient that has contaminated public water supplies around the country.

Democratic senators called that unacceptable. They argued that states and local communities shouldn't have to bear the expense of cleansing their drinking water of perchlorate, which has been found in at least 395 sites in 35 states -- or the risk of not doing so.

The toxin interferes with thyroid function and poses developmental health risks, particularly to fetuses.

Benjamin Grumbles, assistant administrator for water at the Environmental Protection Agency, told a Senate hearing that EPA is aware that perchlorate is widespread and poses health risks.

But he said that after years of study, EPA has yet to determine whether regulating perchlorate in drinking water would do much good.

"Is there a meaningful opportunity to reduce risk if we issue a new national regulation on perchlorate? We've been spending a lot of time on that, Madam Chairman," Grumbles told Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., chair of the Environment and Public Works Committee.

"I understand your frustration in how long the process is taking but we believe it's important to do the work," Grumbles said, promising a decision by the end of the year.

"EPA is trying to shunt the scientists to the back, put the DOD contractors to the front," Boxer chided. "We want to see action by the scientists. We want to see a standard set."

Grumbles told Boxer it was possible that instead of a regulation, EPA would issue a public health advisory, which would simply provide information. After the hearing he told reporters that a decision to regulate perchlorate was also still on the table.

Most perchlorate contamination resulted from Defense Department activities. The Pentagon could face huge cleanup costs if EPA sets a national drinking water standard for the contaminant, and DOD has tussled with EPA over the issue, according to a report last week by congressional investigators.

Perchlorate is particularly widespread in California and the Southwest, where it's been found in groundwater and in the Colorado River, a drinking water source for 20 million people. It's also been found in lettuce and other foods. Grumbles said that in determining whether drinking water needs to be regulated, EPA is analyzing results of a Food and Drug Administration study from January that found perchlorate in 74 percent of the 285 foods studied, and found that 81 percent of perchlorate intake by infants comes from baby foods and dairy foods.

The dispute over the federal government's response has been long-standing. The EPA in 2005 issued a safety standard for the chemical of 24.5 parts per billion which was criticized as "not protective" by EPA's own Children's Health Protection Advisory Committee. The safety standard indicates what EPA considers a safe exposure level and guides Superfund cleanups, but the agency still didn't move forward with a drinking water standard.

In absence of that, states acted on their own. In 2007, California adopted a drinking water standard of 6 parts per billion. Massachusetts has set a drinking water standard of 2 parts per billion.

Boxer has introduced legislation that she plans to bring to a committee vote in June that would require EPA to set a drinking water standard. Committee Republicans said Congress should stand back and let the EPA finish its work.

Environmental Protection Agency: http://www.epa.gov
© 2008 Associated Press

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/07/8782















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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:53 am


Why did you post an article from 2008? When there are updated stories on this issue.

Article from today about the same issue.

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WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency is setting the first federal drinking water standard for a toxic rocket fuel ingredient linked to thyroid problems in pregnant women and young children, the Obama administration announced yesterday.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:48 pm


Call Me Apple
Why did you post an article from 2008?


I was about to ask the same question and then ask if there had been any updates.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:31 pm


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Why did you post an article from 2008? When there are updated stories on this issue.

Article from today about the same issue.

Quote:
WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency is setting the first federal drinking water standard for a toxic rocket fuel ingredient linked to thyroid problems in pregnant women and young children, the Obama administration announced yesterday.


I was about to ask the same question and then ask if there had been any updates.


When I saw the date on that newer article (Click Here) it hit me like a ton of bricks

I just saw this older article on a different forum and decided to post it here to raise old news -- reason being: The elite love it when you forget stuff cause it helps the incremental plan keep going. (Short-Attentin-Span)
I didn't know that a newer article was produced about this subject on the date that I posted the older article on this forum.

Around the time/date that I saw the older article and posted it here:

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:28 am

The date that the newer article was made:

February 3, 2011

It's no wonder why you both ever got the urge to ask why I posted the older one instead of the newer one (But at first I couldn't exactly figure out why until I saw the date on the newer article)......

Let me guess: You thought I was deliberately and purposely avoiding the newer article by posting the older article?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:19 pm


SUPREMEMASTER1
Let me guess: You thought I was deliberately and purposely avoiding the newer article by posting the older article?


No, I was just thinking that there would probably be some kind of update on something that was going on in 2008 by now. Apple just went on and posted it before I could ask about any updates.

Things that old are sometimes no longer relevant.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:22 pm


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SUPREMEMASTER1
Let me guess: You thought I was deliberately and purposely avoiding the newer article by posting the older article?


No, I was just thinking that there would probably be some kind of update on something that was going on in 2008 by now. Apple just went on and posted it before I could ask about any updates.

Things that old are sometimes no longer relevant.


OOooohhhhhh.... sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:27 pm


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SUPREMEMASTER1
Let me guess: You thought I was deliberately and purposely avoiding the newer article by posting the older article?


No, I was just thinking that there would probably be some kind of update on something that was going on in 2008 by now. Apple just went on and posted it before I could ask about any updates.

Things that old are sometimes no longer relevant.


What he said.
No malicious feelings intended bro sweatdrop

Actually, this thread got me to thinking about Cancer in a roundabout way surprised
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:59 pm


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SUPREMEMASTER1
Let me guess: You thought I was deliberately and purposely avoiding the newer article by posting the older article?


No, I was just thinking that there would probably be some kind of update on something that was going on in 2008 by now. Apple just went on and posted it before I could ask about any updates.

Things that old are sometimes no longer relevant.


What he said.
No malicious feelings intended bro sweatdrop

Actually, this thread got me to thinking about Cancer in a roundabout way surprised


This may be off topic from the thread, but you may want to watch this:

The Cancer Report (Full Version)
1 Hour, 19 Minutes, 8 Seconds.

The person who was in-charge of making it is also thinking about doing a voiceover of the entire thing since it's all text, music, and background images. This isn't your average "slide-show" movie. But in the meantime, I say: Don't want to read a book? Read a documentary.

P.S. Alot of research went into the making of that documentary, so I was told personally by one of the people that helped make it.

Unfortunately, I have not had time to view the documentary myself.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:33 pm


kykyky?? common sense says i dont drink fuel we REALLY need a law 4 this?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:00 am


SUPREMEMASTER1
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SUPREMEMASTER1
Let me guess: You thought I was deliberately and purposely avoiding the newer article by posting the older article?


No, I was just thinking that there would probably be some kind of update on something that was going on in 2008 by now. Apple just went on and posted it before I could ask about any updates.

Things that old are sometimes no longer relevant.


What he said.
No malicious feelings intended bro sweatdrop

Actually, this thread got me to thinking about Cancer in a roundabout way surprised


This may be off topic from the thread, but you may want to watch this:

The Cancer Report (Full Version)
1 Hour, 19 Minutes, 8 Seconds.

The person who was in-charge of making it is also thinking about doing a voiceover of the entire thing since it's all text, music, and background images. This isn't your average "slide-show" movie. But in the meantime, I say: Don't want to read a book? Read a documentary.

P.S. Alot of research went into the making of that documentary, so I was told personally by one of the people that helped make it.

Unfortunately, I have not had time to view the documentary myself.



awesome vid
thanks you
i hadn't seen it yet

ammaea
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