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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:57 pm
The New Dates:
Story continues below Capricorn: Jan. 20 - Feb. 16 Aquarius: Feb. 16 - March 11 Pisces: March 11- April 18 Aries: April 18 - May 13 Taurus: May 13 - June 21 Gemini: June 21 - July 20 Cancer: July 20 - Aug. 10 Leo: Aug. 10 - Sept. 16 Virgo: Sept. 16 - Oct. 30 Libra: Oct. 30 - Nov. 23 Scorpio: Nov. 23 - Nov. 29 Ophiuchus: Nov. 29 - Dec. 17 Sagittarius: Dec. 17 - Jan. 20
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:58 pm
I refuse to accept this. I was born a Sagi, not Ophiuchus. This irritates me.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:25 pm
The signs actually changes ages ago. I still consider myself a Taurus.
Edit: Also it apparently only applies to one type. I don't know the difference between "Eastern" and "Western" astrology (not Chinese mind you), but it supposedly affects one but not the other. Hell if I know the difference.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:11 am
Growl...I am a Libra not a Virgo...I'm far too indecisive to be a Virgo. Yes the signs have gradually changed over the past thousand years or so due to the stars shifting within their normal orbits and whatnot, and I think it only applies to Western astrology...do correct me if I'm wrong.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:45 pm
I have no idea. I do know that stars have changed because the moon pulls away slightly every year and the Earth tilts a little more every year. I just don't think that astrology should change. I was born under Sagittarius and I even have the tattoo, as does Dsay. Were both got matching Sag tats the same day on opposite arms.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:20 pm
I am a Sagittarius now!!! crying I am sad. I spent years coming to terms with the fact that I am a Capricorn and now they say I am not.
At least I didn't get a tattoo, really sorry about that. Does it feel weird now?
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:41 pm
no it doesn't feel weird. I am not Ophiuchus, I am a Sagittarius. The way I heard and the I figure it shouldn't count unless you were born under the change. I was born under Sagi, that will never change. It's like your mom puts you up for adoption, it doesn't the person who birthed you.
and as far as i know western zodiac is what were used to and eastern is the chinese.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:25 pm
that's what I thought too, but then I read something where there are two versions of one of them or something. I don't know, but it was really weird. *shrugs* I'll look into it later, too lazy right now.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:33 pm
Actually, our signs are still the same: http://io9.com/5733004/your-zodiac-sign-may-have-changed-this-weekQuote: The internet is burning up with the news that the zodiac has been rearranged. There's a 13th sign, Ophiuchus, and people who think they're Virgos are actually Leos. What happened here? We talked to the astronomer who caused the fuss. Today, Time, MSNBC and tons of other online news outlets are buzzing about the "new" horoscope. The articles are full of vague explanations like, "The star doctors say Earth right now is in a totally different spot in relation to the sun and its equatorial alignment than it was 3,000 years ago." Or: "Because of the moon's gravitational pull on Earth, the alignment of the stars was pushed by about a month." What on Earth is going on? And why does everybody suddenly have to work with a new version of the completely meaningless zodiac? It seems to have started with this article in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune last weekend, in which one astronomer made some statements about the zodiac. Parke Kunkle is on the board of directors of the Minnesota Planetarium Society and teaches astronomy at Minneapolis Community and Technical College. Kunkle told the Star-Tribune the Earth's relation to the sun had changed since the Babylonians first created the zodiac. We got in touch with Kunkle and asked him what he actually told the Star-Tribune. He said he was asked by the Star-Tribune to give them a few bits of information about astronomy, not realizing the article would become a huge discussion of astrology and the relationship between astronomy and astrology. And the main stuff he talked to the Star-Tribune about has to do with the phenomenon of "precession." Says Kunkle: If you take a toy top and spin it, it spins around an axis and that axis tends to point in different directions. It moves around. That's what we call precession. So in Earth's case, right now, Earth's spin axis points towards Polaris, the North Star. But in 3000 BC, the Earth's axis pointed towards a different star, Thuban. And that majestic motion takes about 26,000 years. so if you went from 3,000 B.C. and waited 26,000 years, you'd have the north star Thuban again. This phenomenon was first noticed around 130 B.C. by a Greek astronomer, Hipparchus of Nicea. And as a result, if you actually look at what stars were positioned behind the sun on a particular date, that would have been very different 5,000 years ago than it would today. "We're in a different constellation now and that is the typical sun sign," based on the sun's position when you were born. And no, Parke Kunkle didn't tell the Star-Tribune that the zodiac ought to include 13 signs instead of 12 — especially since he doesn't believe in astrology at all. (He highly recommends Phil Plait's page about astrology.) He did mention that astronomers tend to reckon the sun's position with 13 constellations instead of 12, and Ophiuchus is the 13th. But in the current astrology zodiac, there are just 12. "I just mentioned that it's there, and astronomers actually count it... So if you actually watch the stars in the background of the sun, it actually does go through the constellation of Ophiuchus." He adds that the Babylonians probably had totally different constellations anyway. Somehow, Kunkle's brief comments in the Star-Tribune article got morphed into "astronomer says the zodiac has to be revamped." As various people have pointed out, this means your entire personality is different than what you originally believed it was — you might be flighty instead of hard-working, or fishy instead of scorpionesque. Taylor Swift is an Ophiuchus! Such is the power that astronomers wield over all our fates.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:52 pm
Also, to add to the confusion, there is two different types of Western Astrology. There is what everyone follows, and the "new" western astrology (I've read on that, and even owned a book on it for a long time). What's posted above is the "new" western astrology with the addition of a thirteenth sign. And the new astrology didn't shift around just the dates, it had a whole thing on what changed and how and why. I wish I still had that book now. :/ Like, in that one I was an Aries, but I actually *fit* the description of Aries, because Aries took on a few Taurean traits.
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:37 pm
I dunno, I think it's just silly. I don't like change.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:07 am
I am now thoroughly confused...I think I'll just stick with Libra.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:06 pm
the difference is that the eastern zodiac, sidereal, is based specifically on the constellations, and was changed because the earth's position in spacehas shifted over time, and no longer lines up the exact same way as it did millions of years ago. plus, the new dates only affect people born after 2009.
the western form of the zodiac, tropical, is based on the seasons, elements, and dates. since these are remaining consistent, there's no need to change it. and considering that a) this "new revelation" has happened before, and b) most of the u.s. follows the tropical zodiac, nothing has changed for most people in this country. if the suddenly added a new sign to this system, elements and seasons will not have an even number of signs, which would throw off the alignment. *NOT a libra* ;]
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:29 pm
Rizu-Sensei the difference is that the eastern zodiac, sidereal, is based specifically on the constellations, and was changed because the earth's position in spacehas shifted over time, and no longer lines up the exact same way as it did millions of years ago. plus, the new dates only affect people born after 2009. the western form of the zodiac, tropical, is based on the seasons, elements, and dates. since these are remaining consistent, there's no need to change it. and considering that a) this "new revelation" has happened before, and b) most of the u.s. follows the tropical zodiac, nothing has changed for most people in this country. if the suddenly added a new sign to this system, elements and seasons will not have an even number of signs, which would throw off the alignment. *NOT a libra* ;] So that's the difference between Eastern and Western. thanks for the clarification. (: Like I said, I know there's that "New Astrology" book I had ages ago, which was written by a professor of astronomy and his students, but I didn't know the different between Eastern and Western.
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:58 pm
I am a Capricorn, no matter what
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