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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:22 pm
It was in the food break we had in our Reserved Officers' Training Course(ROTC) earlier that I've thought of it. I was joking then that the real war started when the other cadets swarmed upon the only food stall the officers would allow us to buy from, as they tried to get served first. It was then that I questioned about it again. Why do people seem to want war and other conflicts?
Generations passed and wars are still there, not at all just wars between nations, but also wars between societies, between families, between a family, between ourselves, between us, simply conflict.
What do you think drives this conflicts? Is it because some doesn't have enough, some has too much, or is it both or simply something else? Everyday conflicts occur, some that are actually simple, some that are truly not. Why is it just people just can't realize that our existence are all just connected? That we are all people, that's there's really no such thing as a race, no great difference, that we can all just live together, no boundaries as long as just do it. . . Hmm . . . maybe I'm just stopping myself from writing something too long or simply lazy to write everything I think. Still. . . what do you think makes people just don't see the greater good? That no war is necessary, that too many lives have perished in battles that have no real victors except death and sin.
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:09 am
Some people actually enjoy having conflict with others.
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:11 am
The reason why we have wars is because it's in human nature. Humans will eventually crave blood of others and slaughter eachother for their rights to be on top. If humans remain, war will follow, no matter what is done. Even if the whole world went to war, humans will take sides on the stronger sides. The fights are on going. Others refuse to fight, while others just like the feel of blood on their skin. But most of the planet craves human blood. So basically, we live among real life vampires. but you know, that dont suck d**k.
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:20 pm
Is this ROTC or JROTC? If it's the former, you should be learning about Just War Theory. If it's the latter, then... I dunno, because I was never in that. People are inherently selfish, and likely to put their own needs above the needs of the whole. Also, hungry cadets are usually in no mind to wait around for food. Our mess hall has few memorable rules, but one of them is: "There are no lines in Duncan."
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:20 pm
People are dumbasses. War and religion wouldn't exist if that wasn't true, and government would be unnecessary. But, alas, there are two reasons that I don't believe war's a complete loss. Firstly, it's the basis for a plethora of great stories. Secondly, it introduces a limiting factor on our population where we have gotten rid of most others.
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:01 pm
Miss Amelia Pond Is this ROTC or JROTC? If it's the former, you should be learning about Just War Theory. If it's the latter, then... I dunno, because I was never in that. People are inherently selfish, and likely to put their own needs above the needs of the whole. Also, hungry cadets are usually in no mind to wait around for food. Our mess hall has few memorable rules, but one of them is: "There are no lines in Duncan." ROTC where we become 200+ sardines in a single room. They'll also make us take our exams after being hungry, and exhausted. @_@
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:04 pm
Ultimately, population control. It's a biological imperative, like reproduction. Wars and diseases are all that keep humanity's growth in check. However with the advancement of technology the equation is complicated by better combating diseases and well as the engineering of diseases for bio-warfare as well as the technological advancement of the agribusiness industry that helps fuel the exponential population growth
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:06 pm
population control is true but then again, I see the whole world being a cemetery.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:52 pm
Well, it is and cemeteries can be very nice places. They're quiet, peaceful, full of verdant life. Every breath and every step you take kills things. Death is pretty natural. I admit that war presents rather horrific ways of dying, or worse: surviving, but it does serve a purpose.
It also advances evolution. Humanity doesn't really evolve much physically anymore- hasn't done much for some time- and in many ways socially selects against physical mutations. Now, we pretty much evolve only socially and technologically (which is technically still a social and cultural evolution).War provides incentives for this by providing the necessities for not just better arms and defense, but communications, transport and medical advancements as well.
If not for the horrible bio-warfare chemicals that Dupont previously made that are now outlawed, we wouldn't have such nifty fine plastics that save lives. If not for the 80's cold war and fear of the USSR and USA attacking from space, we wouldn't have had the rapid advancement of satellite technology and computers and cell phones like we take for granted now. Civilization is built on corpses and suffering, but you make of it what you will
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:53 pm
War exists for a variety of reasons.
Desiring limited resources that others possess fuels war.
Craving power and control over others fuels war.
Disagreeing with others' religious beliefs and purging the world of "impurities" in the name of your god fuels war.
Those are just the reasons I can think of off the top of my head.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:29 pm
Well in my honest opinion.. Keeps the world interesting. And IMO it's better then to have a planet full of peace loving hippies. I believe in the whole "the strong live, and the weak must die". Yes, must.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 11:33 pm
So in simple terms, people are all just idiots even how highly they believe themselves?
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Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:15 pm
Reglare Excile So in simple terms, people are all just idiots even how highly they believe themselves? I wouldn't say all, but for most yes and I think everyone has a few moments of epic-failness
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:10 am
kittycross Reglare Excile So in simple terms, people are all just idiots even how highly they believe themselves? I wouldn't say all, but for most yes and I think everyone has a few moments of epic-failness Hmm . . .won't like counting how many though.
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:58 am
My sister was once planning on creating an organisation to achieve world peace. She was gonna call it: D.I.H.T.B.S.F.H.T.J.G.A (Does It Have Be So F***** Hard To Just Get A Long)
However, the name never really stuck so she gave up on it. dramallama
War is just a much larger picture of a very small problem. People will always have reasons to kill each other. Murderers will always exist. The only different between a murder and a war is basically that the latter is mostly caused by power. And... Just mentioning something that may (or may not) be a completely different kind of discussion: Most wars are started by men... rolleyes
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