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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:52 pm


This is a question best asked to a person good at math. But based on the fact that the current Hieda is the ninth, the one born during year 2258 would be the (with appropriate name, of course)...
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:05 pm


Akyuu was born in 1994. Find the average life span of a XIXth century Japanese girl and start adding it to that year until you reach 2258. There's your answer.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:16 pm


Well, she would have to at least be the twelfth. Japanese word for 12 that also sounds good as a name?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:07 pm


Eh... Juuni?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:07 pm


Hmm, pulling a quick number off the internet (as relyable as that is...) the average life expectantcy of someone in the 19th century is 37. Assuming drugs developed by Eirin don't increase her life expectancy (or perhaps shortens it) the following tombstones should read so.

Akyuu - 1994 - 2031
Aju - 2031 - 2068
Ajuichi - 2068 - 2105
Ajuni - 2105 - 2142
Ajumi - 2142 - 2179
Ajuyo - 2179 - 2216
Ajugo - 2216 - 2253

Mean while, Ajumu, age 5, wonders if she should have bothered with makeing tombstone for all her past incarnations.

I was bored...though not enough to double check my work...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:18 am


What about in 2277?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:11 pm


2277 I think its still Ajumu, just age 24.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 5:34 pm


The life span of the Child of Miare shortens every incarnation. Every incarnation will live a shorter time than the previous. Assuming Akyuu was around 10 years old at the time of her introduction, she may very well die in her teens.

A 12th Child may not live to be able to speak, depending on how much time is lost from the lifespan.

Also: The figuring for life expectancy is off. 19th Century is 1801-1900. You'd want 20th century life expectancy, not that it would matter for someone who would be living on a heavily degraded version of life expectancy of 800 AD.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 6:14 pm


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The life span of the Child of Miare shortens every incarnation. Every incarnation will live a shorter time than the previous. Assuming Akyuu was around 10 years old at the time of her introduction, she may very well die in her teens.

A 12th Child may not live to be able to speak, depending on how much time is lost from the lifespan.

Also: The figuring for life expectancy is off. 19th Century is 1801-1900. You'd want 20th century life expectancy, not that it would matter for someone who would be living on a heavily degraded version of life expectancy of 800 AD.
Isn't her lifespan based on how much the Records needed to be written and/or updated? This is actually for my Fallout 3 character creation, and because it takes place after a nuclear war, you'd think there would be a lot of information that needs to be recorded.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:55 am


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The life span of the Child of Miare shortens every incarnation. Every incarnation will live a shorter time than the previous. Assuming Akyuu was around 10 years old at the time of her introduction, she may very well die in her teens.

A 12th Child may not live to be able to speak, depending on how much time is lost from the lifespan.

Also: The figuring for life expectancy is off. 19th Century is 1801-1900. You'd want 20th century life expectancy, not that it would matter for someone who would be living on a heavily degraded version of life expectancy of 800 AD.
Isn't her lifespan based on how much the Records needed to be written and/or updated? This is actually for my Fallout 3 character creation, and because it takes place after a nuclear war, you'd think there would be a lot of information that needs to be recorded.


No. It gets shorter, period.

Assuming there's supposed to be a connection to the real Hieda no Are (an actual historical person Akyuu gets her name from), all that's known is that Are was tasked to memorize what eventually became the Kojiki, at 28. It was completed in 712, though there are no other real details about the age. Hypothetically, if Are lived until say, 70, and died in or close to the start of the 9th century (unlikely, as Are was 28 in the 7th century when they were tasked with this job) and 5 years was lost off the life span for every incarnation, Akyuu would live until 25, at best. The 12th incarnation then wouldn't make it past 10.

Of course, this is just with hypothetical numbers with no basis. I'd imagine that Are probably didn't live until 70, and in that case Akyuu's lifespan drops further. Of course, the life span could just be shortened by like a year for each incarnation or something silly like that to ruin all sense of drama.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:16 am


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The life span of the Child of Miare shortens every incarnation. Every incarnation will live a shorter time than the previous. Assuming Akyuu was around 10 years old at the time of her introduction, she may very well die in her teens.

A 12th Child may not live to be able to speak, depending on how much time is lost from the lifespan.

Also: The figuring for life expectancy is off. 19th Century is 1801-1900. You'd want 20th century life expectancy, not that it would matter for someone who would be living on a heavily degraded version of life expectancy of 800 AD.
Isn't her lifespan based on how much the Records needed to be written and/or updated? This is actually for my Fallout 3 character creation, and because it takes place after a nuclear war, you'd think there would be a lot of information that needs to be recorded.


No. It gets shorter, period.

Assuming there's supposed to be a connection to the real Hieda no Are (an actual historical person Akyuu gets her name from), all that's known is that Are was tasked to memorize what eventually became the Konjiki, at 28. It was completed in 712, though there are no other real details about the age. Hypothetically, if Are lived until say, 70, and died in or close to the start of the 9th century (unlikely, as Are was 28 in the 7th century when they were tasked with this job) and 5 years was lost off the life span for every incarnation, Akyuu would live until 25, at best. The 12th incarnation then wouldn't make it past 10.

Of course, this is just with hypothetical numbers with no basis. I'd imagine that Are probably didn't live until 70, and in that case Akyuu's lifespan drops further. Of course, the life span could just be shortened by like a year for each incarnation or something silly like that to ruin all sense of drama.
However, the purpose of the Child of Miare is to write historical records. Therefore, each one should at least live long enough to have the dexterity to write.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:17 pm


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However, the purpose of the Child of Miare is to write historical records. Therefore, each one should at least live long enough to have the dexterity to write.


That's not a given.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:45 pm


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However, the purpose of the Child of Miare is to write historical records. Therefore, each one should at least live long enough to have the dexterity to write.


That's not a given.
ORLY question
PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:33 am


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However, the purpose of the Child of Miare is to write historical records. Therefore, each one should at least live long enough to have the dexterity to write.


That's not a given.
ORLY question


Reading the ending monologue of PMiSS, Akyuu says that she no longer thinks that the Gensokyo Chronicle is necessary and that it no longer would require updating, since it's no longer an essential source of information for survival against youkai, it's original purpose. She suggests she may not need to reincarnate any more.

She also writes that she likely will not live long past 30, so I guess my rough estimations were pretty close in the end, and she must lose a fairly significant portion of her lifespan with each incarnation. It's also written that she has to start preparing for the ritual for her reincarnation years in advance, so that makes it more difficult as well, if her life ever reaches a point where she won't live long enough to be able to contribute to the Gensokyo Chronicle and still prepare her next incarnation, that'll likely be the end of it.

As well, apparently 100 years or so pass between reincarnations, so if her life expectancy is 30 years, Akyuu would be dead by 2025, and the Tenth would be born around 2125-ish. Assuming another 30 year life span (for convenience), that incarnation would die by 2155, with the Eleventh born in 2255, making her 22 by 2277.

Seems it's more a personal obligation than any kind of compulsion.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 9:24 am


Pretty simple logic there, considering that records of any important even doesn't need to be kept all the time. has she really lived THAT long?
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