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 Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:54 pm
OMG!!! I FOUND A PUBLISHER THAT IS GOING TO PUBLISH MY BOOKS!!!! YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!!!!!!! more so, this one, along with the second, and third book in the series, and EVERY OTHER BOOK I WRITE! i set up a blog for it at blogger.com. currently, on that blog it says nothing about a publisher, but it will be up ASAP. EDIT: ok. i understand that alot of you dont agree with the way i am plannng of publishing, and are calling me a amature. I understand you wouldnt publish this way, but this is how i want to publish, so please, back of. Thank you!
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:08 pm
Congrats! I am working on typing my novel now...do you have any tips for finding a publisher?
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Irako of the Desert Captain
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:33 pm
I do. Make sure your work is presented neatly and that all the pages are in order.
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:55 pm
you have to first make a huge choice. self publish, or traditional publish. this is how i found the information off of google, and my opinion on everything.
SELF PUBLISHING: PROS: you keep all rights, your book isnt chopped up, you are in control of everything, and you can be taken seriously before adulthood.
CONS: you have to still find a place that will publish your book, which is any self publishing company. you have to advertise on your own, (just make a blog and go to your local library for a book signing). it could be costy, and some self-publishing companies dont pay you as much as you would like, or distribute to stores.
TRADITIONAL: PROS:they do all the work for you, you get paid, and your book gets sent to stores, you dont have to advertise.
CONS: you have to find a legit agent, you may still have to advertise (dont leave it up to your agent or pubslisher), you loose 10% of your earnings (which isnt very much) to your agent, you lose most of all control over choices, you dont get the copyright (because the publisher does, just look in any book and you will see it), you have to do alot of prep work, and most wont take you seriously if you are under 18.
i dont like traditional publishing... at all. its a pain, and after all your work, all the credit you get is your name on the cover.
i am self pubslihing with a website that i found. it is like CUSTOMINK.COM, but for books, and things like that. i really like this website because its cheap, professional, easy, they pay you for each book sold (and you get to set the price and how much you want to be paid for it) they give you a copyright, and a book #, they sell it on their online store, and if it lines with with certain conditions, they sell it to other stores as well. its amazing, and i wish i had found it earlier.
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:50 pm
kaela2015 you have to first make a huge choice. self publish, or traditional publish. SELF PUBLISHING: PROS: you keep all rights, your book isnt chopped up, you are in control of everything, and you can be taken seriously before adulthood. CONS: you have to still find a place that will publish your book, which is any self publishing company. you have to advertise on your own, (just make a blog and go to your local library for a book signing). it could be costy, and most self-publishing companies dont pay you, or distribute to stores. TRADITIONAL: PROS:they do all the work for you, you get paid, and your book gets sent to stores, you dont have to advertise. CONS: you have to find a legit agent, you may still have to advertise (dont leave it up to your agent or pubslisher), you loose 10% of your earnings (which isnt very much) to your agent, you loose all control over choices, you dont get the copyright, you have to do alot of prep work, they wont take you seriously if you are under 18. i dont like traditional publishing... at all. its a pain, and after all your work, all the credit you get is your name on the cover. i am self pubslihing with a website that i found. it is like CUSTOMINK.COM, but for books, and things like that. i really like this website because its cheap, professional, easy, they give you a copyright, and a book #, they sell it on their online store, and if it lines with with certain conditions, they sell it to other stores as well. its amazing, and i wish i had found it earlier. Uh, last I checked, you don't lose the rights to your book from traditional publishing. That's nonsense, even.
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:13 pm
kaela2015 TRADITIONAL: PROS:they do all the work for you, you get paid, and your book gets sent to stores, you dont have to advertise. CONS: you have to find a legit agent, you may still have to advertise (dont leave it up to your agent or pubslisher), you loose 10% of your earnings (which isnt very much) to your agent, you loose all control over choices, you dont get the copyright, you have to do alot of prep work, they wont take you seriously if you are under 18. i dont like traditional publishing... at all. its a pain, and after all your work, all the credit you get is your name on the cover. ...You've never even looked at the legal stuff in normally published books, have you? You don't lose the rights to your stuff, at least not in the US (I think in Japan at least companies get the legal rights to stuff, but...), and you don't lose control over choices; you're just working with them to make a book that they can get a profit off of (as they should try to do, being businesses). And on the prep work thing... What the hell are you doing even trying to be published if you haven't shredded your novel at least once?! That sort of crap is why self publishing has such a bad rap! You should have to go through several drafts before it's even considered publishable and arrrrrrrgh. Stop spreading your misinformation. As a side note: you'll get more money from traditional publishing, mostly because more people will see it. You'll probably still need a day job, though. Writing is not a lucrative business. /standard warning I give to all writers wanting to do such things for a living EDIT: Also, good on you OP! I wish I could find a publisher to keep in mind myself, but the only one I really like (Less Than Three Press) has fairly strict requirements and I still haven't finished anything of mine yet (also my biggest project does not end happily for the mains, so it's DQ'd right off the bat).
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:04 am
Holyshit! Congratz dude! biggrin
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:07 am
you think i havent shredded it at all yet? ive been writing it for 5 years! of course its been shredded, restarted, edited over and over. all the research i did said that they buy the rights off of you. of course you still wrote it, but they get the copyright. of course ALOT more people see it, but you are paid once when they buy it off you. i know you will be paid more. you loose money with self publishing! i know this! im 14, and im not looking to make a living off of writing. i just want other people to read my books. i dont need the whole world reading it either. i dont want to make fame and fortune off of writing. thats why i am sticking with the publisher i found, its perfect for everything that i want. of course some money woud be good for college, but im in the IB program and scholarships are lining up.
thank you P3QT. its going to be a while before i get it done though. i have alot of school work to do, i have to split it into chapters, edit it again just to make sure.
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:40 pm
Wow, congratulations! Is finding an agent difficult? Or did you slog through the legal work by yourself?
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:24 pm
kaela2015 TRADITIONAL: PROS:they do all the work for you, you get paid, and your book gets sent to stores, you dont have to advertise. CONS: you have to find a legit agent, you may still have to advertise (dont leave it up to your agent or pubslisher), you loose 10% of your earnings (which isnt very much) to your agent, you loose all control over choices, you dont get the copyright, you have to do alot of prep work, they wont take you seriously if you are under 18. Um ... yeah. No. You get an agent to 1. contact the right editor for your work and do a better job of pitching than you can do (this is worth the ten percent) 2. negotiate a better deal and 3. make sure your rights as an author are protected. That said, you do not NEED an agent to be commercially published (AKA "traditionally" published). Tor-Forge just reopened their submissions to non-agented writers (Actually, I think the entire Macmillian family is open sub) BAEN is open, I think the sci-fi branch of Penguin group is open, there's small press with good reputations that are open, and those are just the fantasy guys (as that's my genre). You don't lose your rights. You sell first print rights for a set number of years, which means you get paid money and eventually the publisher has to stop printing your book and you can sell it to somebody else if you want to. Yes, you will have to edit your book and do a lot of prep work, but I don't see what the problem there is. Good editing on a developmental level is simply eliminating weaker plot elements and characters to emphasize the stronger plot elements and characters. Think of how much better the Star Wars prequils would have been if somebody had made George Lucas get rid of Jar Jar Binks before they hit production (or WRITE HIS F****ING SCRIPT before production. Sorry. I just watched the redlettermedia murder of Ep. 3 and the shot where Lucas brought his first draft into the production office made me scream). Yes, the publisher will register the copyright on your behalf, but it's still yours. It's still your book. It's not like they're going to go through it and rewrite portions without your approval (unless you get a bad editor, which is another reason to have a good agent. It gives you leverage under those circumstances) The main thing commerical publishing will do for you, the biggest pro, is make the book readable and get it into a store. And while both of these seem small, a commercial publisher KNOWS how to get people to read books. They know how to edit for readability, they know how to format the text and design the book and give it a cover that people will want to read. They also know how to get a book into a store, how to use a distributor, how to pay for endcap placement and the upteen million other things that will get people to read your book. It is a lot of work, and is probably not for everybody (BTW congrats on your own endevor) but it's not entirely negative and you definately don't lose your rights.
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:16 pm
Juju l3ee Wow, congratulations! Is finding an agent difficult? Or did you slog through the legal work by yourself? i wouldnt know, i didnt find an agent.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:15 am
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:22 am
kaela2015 Juju l3ee Wow, congratulations! Is finding an agent difficult? Or did you slog through the legal work by yourself? i wouldnt know, i didnt find an agent. Oh, really? I heard it's pretty much impossible to get published without one...congrats though~
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:48 pm
Juju l3ee kaela2015 Juju l3ee Wow, congratulations! Is finding an agent difficult? Or did you slog through the legal work by yourself? i wouldnt know, i didnt find an agent. Oh, really? I heard it's pretty much impossible to get published without one...congrats though~ Im apparently told otherwise by some of the above. but i acctually finally found the perfect self publisher that is a mix between traditional and self. you dont get paid, you dont pay unless you are buying yourself a copy, and they distribute, leaving all the rights you you along with a preofessionally published book. they also take you seriously if you are under 18 like me.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:00 pm
I'M SEEING SOMETHING OF A PROBLEM HERE. YOU KNOW. JUST A TINY ONE. :I please let that be a mistype
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