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 Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:35 pm
I am not trying to be stupid, or whatever you may want to call me, but I have an absolutely serious question. Why is it that all we hear about on the news is that Atheists are making a big stink about Christian holidays and saying "under God" in the pledge and all. There are more religions out there. But why, why! is it only Atheists?
And just for the record, these are the reasons I do not watch the news...
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:46 pm
I remember hearing about something like that. If I remember correctly, the guy was saying that he felt that the nation was imposing God upon their beliefs (or rather lack of)
But I think the reason why it is mostly Atheists is because a supreme deity is being rejected, while others simply don't have or have many deities and are just referencing all of them. Something like that.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:52 pm
Mystic Requiem
I remember hearing about something like that. If I remember correctly, the guy was saying that he felt that the nation was imposing God upon their beliefs (or rather lack of)
But I think the reason why it is mostly Atheists is because a supreme deity is being rejected, while others simply don't have or have many deities and are just referencing all of them. Something like that.
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:54 pm
Aakosir Mystic Requiem
I remember hearing about something like that. If I remember correctly, the guy was saying that he felt that the nation was imposing God upon their beliefs (or rather lack of)
But I think the reason why it is mostly Atheists is because a supreme deity is being rejected, while others simply don't have or have many deities and are just referencing all of them. Something like that.
Media cares more about sales than the truth. We actually had a debate about this in English once.
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:40 am
Aakosir I am not trying to be stupid, or whatever you may want to call me, but I have an absolutely serious question. Why is it that all we hear about on the news is that Atheists are making a big stink about Christian holidays and saying "under God" in the pledge and all. There are more religions out there. But why, why! is it only Atheists?
And just for the record, these are the reasons I do not watch the news... The whole point is that the government is not allowed to endorse any religion (because of The Constitution). Putting "under God" in the pledge, and "In God We Trust" on the money is unconstitutional. By the way, "under God" was added in 1954, when they decided to play up the religion part in opposition of soviet atheism. It's the same with putting up a government financed nativity scene and similar cases. I guarantee that if the government started financing Islamic events, the Christians would rage just as much if not more.
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:26 am
Artto Aakosir I am not trying to be stupid, or whatever you may want to call me, but I have an absolutely serious question. Why is it that all we hear about on the news is that Atheists are making a big stink about Christian holidays and saying "under God" in the pledge and all. There are more religions out there. But why, why! is it only Atheists?
And just for the record, these are the reasons I do not watch the news... The whole point is that the government is not allowed to endorse any religion (because of The Constitution). Putting "under God" in the pledge, and "In God We Trust" on the money is unconstitutional. By the way, "under God" was added in 1954, when they decided to play up the religion part in opposition of soviet atheism. It's the same with putting up a government financed nativity scene and similar cases. I guarantee that if the government started financing Islamic events, the Christians would rage just as much if not more. ^ That, and it's not only atheist, it's also people who are offended that they're religion isn't represented. It's like why Season's Greetings is used, because it covers diversity. Although an atheist might say Reason's Greetings. Also... All I hear about on the news is celebs honestly. It's pretty lame. Sales sales sales.
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:34 am
of course the ones who aren't making a big deal wont show up on the news. especially fox news.
in fact, I think that's one of the only stations that even bothers with these haters. o_O; they are an extremely conservative-politics right-wing news-source which caters primarilly to the christian right and mormons.
MSNBC never bothers with "radical" atheists who "hate god" and stuff. xd
CNN never wastes Prime-Time with that nonsense at the very least.
and I don't watch other news channels, so I can't speak for them.
but no, it's not just atheists. and it's also not a whole lot of atheists. don't take the news at face-value, it's full of crap. especially fox. talk2hand
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 10:37 am
Artto Aakosir I am not trying to be stupid, or whatever you may want to call me, but I have an absolutely serious question. Why is it that all we hear about on the news is that Atheists are making a big stink about Christian holidays and saying "under God" in the pledge and all. There are more religions out there. But why, why! is it only Atheists?
And just for the record, these are the reasons I do not watch the news... The whole point is that the government is not allowed to endorse any religion (because of The Constitution). Putting "under God" in the pledge, and "In God We Trust" on the money is unconstitutional. By the way, "under God" was added in 1954, when they decided to play up the religion part in opposition of soviet atheism. It's the same with putting up a government financed nativity scene and similar cases. I guarantee that if the government started financing Islamic events, the Christians would rage just as much if not more. putting "in god we trust" on the money isn't unconstitutional. however, I would say that money is unonstitutional. the whole pledge of allegience thing though, you got that right. and also, it's been ruled that mandating the pledge of allegiance in schools is unconstitutional, but somehow that hasn't carried over to courtrooms or other such things. :stares: which is BS. damn pledge... it should not be mandatory ANYWHERE! stressed
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:17 am
Back when I was in school, we were never required to say the Pledge of Allegience. We had a choice as to whether we wanted to stand up and say it or not. There were never any mandates to do so. It's the same today. I don't see what is so wrong with pledging allegience to one's country. Isn't that patriotic?
As to the question that the OP asked, my only guess I can give is two words: politcal correctness?
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:07 pm
it's the principle of it. I have no problem with folks pledging allegiance, but it shouldn't be mandatory anywhere.
also, it's not even just to the the Nation, it's specfically to the flag and the republic. what if I don't like the republic? what if I think that we can better uphold the Declaration of Independence in a different government system?
I'm an Anarchist, I don't like the congress as we know it. the U.S.A. is just like the Ancient Roman Empire.
lemme tell you something; many folks think the Holy Roman Empire was corrupt. it wasn't nearly as corrupt as teh Ancient Roman Empire, and in fact the Catholic Church did as many things for the common good and for the rights of men as they did terrible acts of political maneuvering.
just like in america, the ancient roman people didn't care about their politics. citizens voted, but they voted for whoever bribed them the most. sound familiar? the Emperor had no real executive power, the Senate held all the cards. sound familiar? the Senate was just a bunch of rich cats who didn't care about it's people. they just took over land, leased it out to feudal lords, and controlled all the trade, so they could take from the poor and keep their excess luxury. sound familiar? meanwhile, they distracted the people with mindless entertainment (Whores, Blood Sports, Pornography, Comedy, Theatre, etcetera). sound familiar?
republics are a problem. always have been.
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:12 pm
Chieftain Twilight it's the principle of it. I have no problem with folks pledging allegiance, but it shouldn't be mandatory anywhere. also, it's not even just to the the Nation, it's specfically to the flag and the republic. what if I don't like the republic? what if I think that we can better uphold the Declaration of Independence in a different government system? I'm an Anarchist, I don't like the congress as we know it. the U.S.A. is just like the Ancient Roman Empire. lemme tell you something; many folks think the Holy Roman Empire was corrupt. it wasn't nearly as corrupt as teh Ancient Roman Empire, and in fact the Catholic Church did as many things for the common good and for the rights of men as they did terrible acts of political maneuvering. just like in america, the ancient roman people didn't care about their politics. citizens voted, but they voted for whoever bribed them the most. sound familiar? the Emperor had no real executive power, the Senate held all the cards. sound familiar? the Senate was just a bunch of rich cats who didn't care about it's people. they just took over land, leased it out to feudal lords, and controlled all the trade, so they could take from the poor and keep their excess luxury. sound familiar? meanwhile, they distracted the people with mindless entertainment (Whores, Blood Sports, Pornography, Comedy, Theatre, etcetera). sound familiar? republics are a problem. always have been. Second.
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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:08 pm
divineseraph Chieftain Twilight it's the principle of it. I have no problem with folks pledging allegiance, but it shouldn't be mandatory anywhere. also, it's not even just to the the Nation, it's specfically to the flag and the republic. what if I don't like the republic? what if I think that we can better uphold the Declaration of Independence in a different government system? I'm an Anarchist, I don't like the congress as we know it. the U.S.A. is just like the Ancient Roman Empire. lemme tell you something; many folks think the Holy Roman Empire was corrupt. it wasn't nearly as corrupt as teh Ancient Roman Empire, and in fact the Catholic Church did as many things for the common good and for the rights of men as they did terrible acts of political maneuvering. just like in america, the ancient roman people didn't care about their politics. citizens voted, but they voted for whoever bribed them the most. sound familiar? the Emperor had no real executive power, the Senate held all the cards. sound familiar? the Senate was just a bunch of rich cats who didn't care about it's people. they just took over land, leased it out to feudal lords, and controlled all the trade, so they could take from the poor and keep their excess luxury. sound familiar? meanwhile, they distracted the people with mindless entertainment (Whores, Blood Sports, Pornography, Comedy, Theatre, etcetera). sound familiar? republics are a problem. always have been. Second. thankyou, Seraph. ^_^ it feels good to have the weight of another's voice backing mine up. also, I enjoy the irony of your response. xd Parlimentary lingo to support a post about hating the Congress. heart
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:30 am
SuchSweetSadism Artto Aakosir I am not trying to be stupid, or whatever you may want to call me, but I have an absolutely serious question. Why is it that all we hear about on the news is that Atheists are making a big stink about Christian holidays and saying "under God" in the pledge and all. There are more religions out there. But why, why! is it only Atheists?
And just for the record, these are the reasons I do not watch the news... The whole point is that the government is not allowed to endorse any religion (because of The Constitution). Putting "under God" in the pledge, and "In God We Trust" on the money is unconstitutional. By the way, "under God" was added in 1954, when they decided to play up the religion part in opposition of soviet atheism. It's the same with putting up a government financed nativity scene and similar cases. I guarantee that if the government started financing Islamic events, the Christians would rage just as much if not more. ^ That, and it's not only atheist, it's also people who are offended that they're religion isn't represented. It's like why Season's Greetings is used, because it covers diversity. Although an atheist might say Reason's Greetings. Also... All I hear about on the news is celebs honestly. It's pretty lame. Sales sales sales.
So I guess my question now is; why are they always targeting Atheists? There are others who do not like the whole "under God" thing that has been added. I just don't say that part and shrug. But since it was added recently then I understand why there is controversy.
I hate to watch the news. My husband just informed me that Miley Sirus was caught doing some drug. No s**t. They all do! I can't stand hearing about the teen girls who are supposed to be idols for the young kids. I refus to let my daughter watch those shows when she is of age... It's sad.
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:36 am
Chieftain Twilight it's the principle of it. I have no problem with folks pledging allegiance, but it shouldn't be mandatory anywhere. also, it's not even just to the the Nation, it's specfically to the flag and the republic. what if I don't like the republic? what if I think that we can better uphold the Declaration of Independence in a different government system? I'm an Anarchist, I don't like the congress as we know it. the U.S.A. is just like the Ancient Roman Empire. lemme tell you something; many folks think the Holy Roman Empire was corrupt. it wasn't nearly as corrupt as teh Ancient Roman Empire, and in fact the Catholic Church did as many things for the common good and for the rights of men as they did terrible acts of political maneuvering. just like in america, the ancient roman people didn't care about their politics. citizens voted, but they voted for whoever bribed them the most. sound familiar? the Emperor had no real executive power, the Senate held all the cards. sound familiar? the Senate was just a bunch of rich cats who didn't care about it's people. they just took over land, leased it out to feudal lords, and controlled all the trade, so they could take from the poor and keep their excess luxury. sound familiar? meanwhile, they distracted the people with mindless entertainment (Whores, Blood Sports, Pornography, Comedy, Theatre, etcetera). sound familiar? republics are a problem. always have been.
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Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:43 am
Aakosir I thought America was "created" as a Christian nation. The US were created specifically as a secular country, to avoid religious oppression and guarantee freedom of religion. Aakosir So I guess my question now is; why are they always targeting Atheists? Probably because atheists are the most vocal about it.
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