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UnHappyCrayon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:07 pm


English aint my strong point so bare with me? ok i have a 2009 lancer (standard, average one) what new gear or parts you think wud be good for this car? keeping it balance tho.
if im correct it has a Turbocharged 2.0-Liter engine, standerd transmision, 4 cylinders, i think has like 16 or 15 valves, has a multi port injection system, front brakes are ventilated disc and the back solid disk brakes. that's all i know for now kinda still new at cars and know all the peaces in Spanish sweatdrop so just say what wud you do to the car. thxs =]
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:14 pm


I have no experience with on picking gears for a street vehicles but I do know that the biggest factor for a choosing a gear set is how and where you drive not the performance upgrades.  

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Desolation19

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:05 pm


lol Hispanic? I am to so dont worry im pretty sure I can translate it enough smile
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:37 pm


Levis Pennae
I have no experience with on picking gears for a street vehicles but I do know that the biggest factor for a choosing a gear set is how and where you drive not the performance upgrades.


I don't think he's talking about actual gears. Pretty sure he's talking about equipment; like upgrades and modifications.

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Desolation19

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:44 pm


Chron0s
Levis Pennae
I have no experience with on picking gears for a street vehicles but I do know that the biggest factor for a choosing a gear set is how and where you drive not the performance upgrades.


I don't think he's talking about actual gears. Pretty sure he's talking about equipment; like upgrades and modifications.


You hit the nail on the head chronos. Hes talking about modifications.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 8:58 pm



I'd place the highest priority on hood spacers. As is, your car is running about 75 to 85 degrees hotter than it could be. Reducing engine heat with hood spacers can improve overall performance and increase the car's acceleration performance by a margin of roughly 3 seconds, and increase the top speed by about 35 mph. Plus it looks dope.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:23 pm


If you're new at cars I would stay away from anything complex like changing out wastegates or putting in a larger intercooler. Headers are relatively simple if you can find a set of 'emission approved' and direct fit. Because anyone who has played with headers knows that 50% of the time you need to mod the exhaust. Not to mention on your vehicle (being so new) if you remove an O2 sensor you'll more than likely get some kind of drive-ability issue. Other than that I would say get a QUALITY air cleaner... A lot of other items are pretty High end like ECU tuning.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:29 pm


You won't have drivability issues if you do light mods and you know what the ******** you're doing... Replacing the intake is definitely a more reasonable start than headers. If you can't handle putting the MAF back where it was, maybe you should bring your car to a qualified technician.

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Crimmy Sun

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:18 pm


We are talking Evo here right, not just a Lancer?
Cause you seem unsure

believe it or not, the evo X is put together very well, all the parts are quite complimentary to each other, so unless you're willing to do some supporting mods, touch nothing that isn't exhaust, pre-MAF air-flow or cooling, otherwise you'll be throwing off the balance of the factory tune.

You can never go wrong with a bit of exhaust modifications, my suggestion is a cut-out, the faster the air can evacuate exhaust on a turbocharged car the better
Us turbo peoples hate back-pressure, and being that open-down or any exhaust that leaves directly at the front-bumper, is not only illegal, but actually totally obnoxious.
But a cut-out preserves its day-to-day use, but makes a fairly significant difference in performance.

If you want to make the best of the car, best people to answer any questions are AMS (Link to site). You won't find people who know the car better than them, they're gods to us Mitsu folk. Dun be afraid to call them either, I found myself calling them a few times when we were building my brother's evo.

Also, Tubular headers are s**t, they just look good, which in the case of the 4B11T you cant really see, because it's on the back
If you can even find one I'll be impressed, I can't think of anyone who makes one

A great option for you is This AMS Staged Upgrade, it isn't anything spectacular, but it is 100hp over stock as well as something that will make your car run a lot healthier.

and seeing that you didn't know how many valves in the motor (16 btw), you likely aren't in a position to try and get technical and do a custom build, so this linear staged package is fine for you, and you get 100 horse out of it

If it isn't an evo though, it's a nice daily, but it'll never be anything more
and isn't turbo (Ralliart excluded)
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:13 am


Yours Truly 2095
You won't have drivability issues if you do light mods and you know what the ******** you're doing... Replacing the intake is definitely a more reasonable start than headers. If you can't handle putting the MAF back where it was, maybe you should bring your car to a qualified technician.

Where the hell did the MAF come into play here? I said he should find a set of 'emissions headers' so he won't lose an O2 sensor. Besides Headers are generally good for a 10-15% power gain on the low end of your rpm band. (Then again I live in cast Iron V8 land I'm not doubting it may change on 4-bangers)

You can seriously screw your tuning up with an aftermarket intake if you don't match it with a set of heads. I've seen plenty of people swap out intakes on SBC and BBF's and they either don't gain anything or they even lose power. If your heads can't flow the air and fuel you're just wasting your money.

People don't realize that when the engineers put together an engine they actually know what the hell they're doing. Edelbrock and Offenhauser aren't the solution if you're not doing anything else.

Crimmy Sun: You seem to know what you're talking about so I think I could have a decent conversation about it. When you say 'tubular headers are s**t' are you talking about just on your Mitsu engines? Or are you making that claim to all engines?

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Crimmy Sun

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:26 am


Totenkopf Soldat
Yours Truly 2095
You won't have drivability issues if you do light mods and you know what the ******** you're doing... Replacing the intake is definitely a more reasonable start than headers. If you can't handle putting the MAF back where it was, maybe you should bring your car to a qualified technician.

Where the hell did the MAF come into play here? I said he should find a set of 'emissions headers' so he won't lose an O2 sensor. Besides Headers are generally good for a 10-15% power gain on the low end of your rpm band. (Then again I live in cast Iron V8 land I'm not doubting it may change on 4-bangers)

You can seriously screw your tuning up with an aftermarket intake if you don't match it with a set of heads. I've seen plenty of people swap out intakes on SBC and BBF's and they either don't gain anything or they even lose power. If your heads can't flow the air and fuel you're just wasting your money.

People don't realize that when the engineers put together an engine they actually know what the hell they're doing. Edelbrock and Offenhauser aren't the solution if you're not doing anything else.

Crimmy Sun: You seem to know what you're talking about so I think I could have a decent conversation about it. When you say 'tubular headers are s**t' are you talking about just on your Mitsu engines? Or are you making that claim to all engines?


Mitsu and most turbocharged cars
Keep in mind that the exhaust on the 4B11 is on the back
and manifolds flow better on a turbo, you want air to get to the turbo as quickly as you can
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:27 pm


Totenkopf Soldat
Yours Truly 2095
You won't have drivability issues if you do light mods and you know what the ******** you're doing... Replacing the intake is definitely a more reasonable start than headers. If you can't handle putting the MAF back where it was, maybe you should bring your car to a qualified technician.

Where the hell did the MAF come into play here? I said he should find a set of 'emissions headers' so he won't lose an O2 sensor. Besides Headers are generally good for a 10-15% power gain on the low end of your rpm band. (Then again I live in cast Iron V8 land I'm not doubting it may change on 4-bangers)

You can seriously screw your tuning up with an aftermarket intake if you don't match it with a set of heads. I've seen plenty of people swap out intakes on SBC and BBF's and they either don't gain anything or they even lose power. If your heads can't flow the air and fuel you're just wasting your money.

People don't realize that when the engineers put together an engine they actually know what the hell they're doing. Edelbrock and Offenhauser aren't the solution if you're not doing anything else.

Crimmy Sun: You seem to know what you're talking about so I think I could have a decent conversation about it. When you say 'tubular headers are s**t' are you talking about just on your Mitsu engines? Or are you making that claim to all engines?
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The MAF is something you'll need to deal with when replacing the intake. What I was trying to say is that not many beginners have the know-how to replace the headers, whereas changing an intake is fairly straightforward and generally, with most cars, you receive a decent improvement. There are cars with factory intakes that are better suited, like my old 350Z, but I've seen aftermarket intakes provide increases of between 7 and 10 WHP on numerous occasions, as well as increased responsiveness. Are those big numbers? No, but this kid probably doesn't want to put the car on a lift and go changing the headers. Intake is a quick and easy way to get a little extra oomph. Also I have never regarded changing the heads to be a necessary modification required with an aftermarket intake. I also seriously doubt the OP has any desire to change his heads.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 12:58 am


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Yours Truly 2095
You won't have drivability issues if you do light mods and you know what the ******** you're doing... Replacing the intake is definitely a more reasonable start than headers. If you can't handle putting the MAF back where it was, maybe you should bring your car to a qualified technician.

Where the hell did the MAF come into play here? I said he should find a set of 'emissions headers' so he won't lose an O2 sensor. Besides Headers are generally good for a 10-15% power gain on the low end of your rpm band. (Then again I live in cast Iron V8 land I'm not doubting it may change on 4-bangers)

You can seriously screw your tuning up with an aftermarket intake if you don't match it with a set of heads. I've seen plenty of people swap out intakes on SBC and BBF's and they either don't gain anything or they even lose power. If your heads can't flow the air and fuel you're just wasting your money.

People don't realize that when the engineers put together an engine they actually know what the hell they're doing. Edelbrock and Offenhauser aren't the solution if you're not doing anything else.

Crimmy Sun: You seem to know what you're talking about so I think I could have a decent conversation about it. When you say 'tubular headers are s**t' are you talking about just on your Mitsu engines? Or are you making that claim to all engines?
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The MAF is something you'll need to deal with when replacing the intake. What I was trying to say is that not many beginners have the know-how to replace the headers, whereas changing an intake is fairly straightforward and generally, with most cars, you receive a decent improvement. There are cars with factory intakes that are better suited, like my old 350Z, but I've seen aftermarket intakes provide increases of between 7 and 10 WHP on numerous occasions, as well as increased responsiveness. Are those big numbers? No, but this kid probably doesn't want to put the car on a lift and go changing the headers. Intake is a quick and easy way to get a little extra oomph. Also I have never regarded changing the heads to be a necessary modification required with an aftermarket intake. I also seriously doubt the OP has any desire to change his heads.
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"Head" not "Heads"
We only get one, unlike "You" people
Mitsu heads flow like a ********, If at any point, ever in any given situation, anyone ever replaced a head on a Mitsu with something not made by Mitsu, that person is a dumbass.
Mitsu head flow better than anything anyone could ever make, that and no one makes an aftermarket head

Even I haven't done any porting on my head, dual springs and titanium valves, but no porting.
The advantage we have over you and your unholy man-mobile blessed by Zeus, is we'll never need to do any porting or swapping of heads
We can port, no reason to, but we can
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:56 am


thank you all my friend kinda translated words that i didint know and it helped alot! sweatdrop to answer some few questions: i am new in the sense that i only have like a 2 years experience of cars and mustly know about american vehicules, so i dont wana jump the gun and ******** up the car. i think i will work with the air filters and tinker with the chips. but thank you your opinions helped me to known what to do first =]

UnHappyCrayon


UnHappyCrayon

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:57 am


Desolation19
lol Hispanic? I am to so dont worry im pretty sure I can translate it enough smile
whats funny? neutral
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