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 Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:37 pm
Okay so I guess it's been made aware that Kuro's made a new guild.
I'm pretty sure everyone from before knows about it, and if you're new to this guild you don't really have to pay any mind to this. It's just old news being dragged around, in a way.
Anyway. First off, don't read this from me as a mod. It's hard to do, but I'm seriously just asking this as a person, a member of a guild with all of you.
I guess what I want to ask is..how to put it. Are you guys being all inactive here and saying you're on hiatus just to hide it? Because it's awkward? Because it's just one of those things that people try to brush under the rug and don't want to talk about at all?
I brought it up with another member at one point, but when I gave my opinion on it I didn't get any reply at all until I changed the subject, like the original subject should be avoided.
Honestly it's really getting to me.
Personally, I don't like feeling tense like this, I don't like feeling like people are going behind my back, and a few others, brushing us aside and hiding things right in front of our faces. At least, that's what it looks like you're doing.
I have my own opinions of Kuro and her friends, her new guild and how she said the last one 'closed' when it most certainly and obviously died. But those are my opinions. I'll gladly share them with you if you really want to know, but in a nutshell I don't like them or it. You can tell them that if you want, I don't care, I'm sure they probably don't really like me, and a couple others, either, or they're indifferent and couldn't care less but still have their own opinions.
I can respect them as people, but this whole thing is making me really frustrated and annoyed, it doesn't help that the guild has been really quiet lately, not too long before I found Kuro's new guild.
BASICALLY, because that was a wall of text, I want to get things out in the open and get this whole thing sorted out. Again. Because it's driving me up the wall and I feel like it's driving everyone apart and I hate it.
Also, to let everyone know, I get a little odd when I'm sleep deprived, which I currently am, which is why I'm able to type all this. Because normally I wouldn't dare do such a thing but I feel it's something that needs to get sorted out, not just for my sake.
I hope I worded all of this right.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:42 pm
I noticed that, too, actually.
And don't feel bad for saying that, it's a point that should be brought up.
I actually think people might be getting busy, though.
Right now, Latianna should be filling her college apps (they've been killing her, so please forgive ; m ; ) and I actually had two tests today. Dx
I was a little surprised that Kuro did make a new one. I thought it was just completely over.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:49 pm
;;
Well, yeah, I know there's real life going on too. XD; It just feels like this is also playing a part for quite a few people, especially since I know most of you have joined the other guild. I don't mind that you do, but it plays a part in how I'm coming to these conclusions and questions and jfkdls feeling.
Yeah I did too. I saw she mentioned people wanting it to open again, which surprised me, because the last one basically just flat lined on its own.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:00 pm
Yeah, honestly, there's no way a guild dies except when the members leave.
She actually sent Lati and I invites.
We were surprised when we got it.
o o;;
& it could be a part of it.
I am worried about her friends being there, though.
One of them in particular avoids new people like the plague, so she's not very social imo. xD
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:03 pm
First of all, I would never EVER do that to you guys D;
ILU! & to be quite frank, more than I could care for Nyx, Peas, etc. not
to be mean. They don't seem to be realizing they are making the same
mistakes again right now, & I kinda don't want to be part of the guild
already. It's pretty sad when they say new people are welcome, but we
wont really take that much notice to you because we already have friends.
Not actually saying it but, c'mon... all you have to do is read between the
lines with them.
I haven't been that active since for one I don't really have anywhere to be active, I've pretty posted in all my rp's excluding the one with Aefes & Apple
which I'm struggling to post back on atm Dx
Plus I'm a bit sick "orz
But Shaish, you don't ever have to worry about me, I'll never just betray you
or anything D; This guild is #1 on my list of guilds~
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:07 pm
Sauru;
D;
And yeah I heard that's how a couple others ended up in it. Which I find a little fishy on Kuro and her friend's part but. D|
Yeeah. But they all kind of seemed like that to me before. In the other guild they were hardly rping at all when I was there, and if they were it was with their close friends. I just get the feeling things are going to end up the same way as before, after things die down. It wouldn't surprise me if that's how the old guild started, all open and friendly, and then it became what it became, especially after that wedding crap they tried to pull. <______<
Hoshi;
Yeeah. D; That's what I mean ^ when I say things will probably go back to how they were before. I don't see why people will think the new one will be too much better than the old one. It's like an old boyfriend/girlfriend. If it didn't work out the first time, chances are high that it won't work out the second or third time.
And that saying of 'fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me', which my mother actually told me when I told her lol.
I think the appeal is that it seems grand, and it's a shiny new guild, but once things die down..I really don't think it'll last.
And yeeah I was going to post in the Christmas Party earlier but I haven't slept yet so whatever motivation I had to rp has left me until after I sleep. OTL
XD
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:14 pm
I get that its normal and should be cool for everyone to be in as many guilds as they want, and usually it doesn't bother me.
I am only in one guild - this one
I devote my free time to it and try my hardest to put everything into it
To be honest, every time I look at that guild I feel really betrayed that's why I've been afk most of the day. I can't look at gaia without a knot in my stomach.
Kuro never took responsibility seriously. Profile requests sat for weeks at a time, she never wanted to talk to anyone and when she did it was about herself. She never roleplayed with anyone the entire time that I was in that guild. After we left, I knew I would never go back - but she said she would change that I would see it. So I watched - she didn't change at all and neither did the guild. All they did was talk about themselves some more and made a suggestion box like ours.
I'm afraid that a shiny new guild is all it takes to end this one and it sickens me.
I could never join a guild of Kuro's again, not after the things she did - especially kicking gorr and shaish. I will never be able to forgive her for the misuse of her position. So for me I was upset to see that everyone could so easily forget why that guild died in the first place.
I may be over-reacting, I'm not sure. But it makes it hard to be on here.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:23 pm
Exactly.
Hailo is talking to them pretty well, but they're really only talking to each other.
No one new is talking or really aware of what's happening.
And like moku, I kind of don't want to be there namely because of the discomfort that caused them to close.
Kuro seems nice enough, but she's not the type to run a guild successfully. I mean, she blatantly says that she has other things to do in place of the guild. Then she also says she lurks in BC shops, so she's preoccupied.
Even I know that it would be hard to run a guild on my schedule and I'm usually not busy. Dx
If it doesn't work once it may not work at all.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:24 pm
Mmm... Yea... I'm probably just going to leave if things don't seem to
pick up. It's not that I don't think it'll be better this time around, it's more
I want to see if they actually learned from last time or if they just actually
don't give a crap & are just going to do it again. Most likely right now it just
seems like it is going that way though. D; I haven't forgotten, no, I never
will, but I was curious, but now my curiousity is filled pretty much, I'm kind
of sick of it 'cause they don't seem to get it, & the only thing I'm slightly
wavering on is the response from someone else in the guild. I had pm'd
them for a prp but after really seeing how I was being ignored yet again,
I feel incompetent & unwanted so I'm most likely just leaving. It's too bad
though cause I didn't even use my new oc's but whatever... "orz I guess I
should've really thought that one out ahead of time...
lol who were you going to throw into the party? xD
& you should just go to sleep then woman! D<
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:28 pm
Autopsy;
I was fine as long as I didn't look at her guild. I'd slip back into my usual mood but as soon as I even looked at it I got really..irked? I was kind of mad and annoyed and frustrated and jfkdsl. I was sitting on my bed drawing, thinking it over likeIdo, and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to feel like that. I don't want to feel so..terrible? Just by looking at her guild. But really, it wasn't just the guild itself that made me feel that way but also everything I said in my first post in here. I didn't like thinking we were all going behind each other or hiding things, even possibly ditching each other when it really isn't necessary. I hoped that everyone was being open enough to not have to worry about that, so I started getting worried about that too.
I honestly can't even really stand to be in the same thread as Kuro, I've tried. Even just looking at her avatar makes me want to veer away. She makes me all sorts of uncomfortable and I don't like being around her at all. And honestly I'm fine with people joining other guilds, that's their thing, but I didn't want this guild to end up being ditched for something that ended poorly last time and will probably only repeat that same thing, especially when so many tried hard to make this guild a good place to be at.
I spend nearly all of my time on Gaia in this guild, or just watching it, waiting for some sort of update. This guild has become my Gaia home basically, where I spend a lot of my time. I think about it offline too, think about rp posts, think about conversations we all have, etc. It might seem pathetic, might even be, but I enjoy this place a lot. I like how open it feels here, apparently even enough for me to make this thread and not get bashed, which I was honestly worried about after I posted it. ;; I don't like confrontation but I wanted to get this out because I know it was really bothering others, not just myself.
Sauru;
I've been observing a little, off and on, because I do that. ;; But every reply I've seen to Hailo is short, maybe even without much of any thought to it. And honestly the impression I get is that they're trying to just be nice and reply to everyone and not come off looking rude, especially straight off the bat.
Yeah. D:
Kuro is in quite a few BC shops, I noticed. <-- I probably have too much time on my hands lol.
But I think she is way too stretched out with college and BC shops to run a guild, and I know she spends more time in them and in art shops than she was in her old guild.
Hoshi;
Oh goodness. D;
You could keep the characters though and try to use them later somewhere, even out of guild rps if you can find someone.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:36 pm
Not to sound weird, but maybe she should have someone else head the guild with her who's not a friend? e e;;
I mean, she's very biased.
She loves her friends to bits, so it's hard for her to not be so. D;
Yeah, playing nice is great and everything, but being yourself is way better.
LET'S TRY GETTING THEM TO COME HERE. o uo
Actually, Beyond and her friends joined that guild, too.
Why did she leave this one?
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:39 pm
Algo left this guild because I'm 'mean' apparently.
And until she can give me a good reason for that one - I call bull s**t.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:40 pm
Sauru;
Yeah I know. Kai as vice captain did nothing in the old guild, even when it was going downhill and I saw her online. <_______<
But even as friends you can run a guild fine, I mean we're all friends and I think it's going fine, it's just that they don't ...look past their friends? If that's how you put it. At least not enough to treat everyone equally or even try to.
Hellno.
I MEAN.
I probably shouldn't have said that but lol. ;;; If they want to they can but. <________<
[/veers]
Yeah I saw.
Aaand Algo left because she and Ryu had issues with Gorrific and Autopsy, basically.
Er. Yeah what Autopsy said. Beatmetoit.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:51 pm
They can join if they want I'm sure. I don't think Kuro would though because I don't think she could handle not being supreme overlord. But if she wanted to prove me wrong - more power to her. I probably won't seek her out and try to get her to come here though lol.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:51 pm
oh my. D;
and i was referring to the members in general of the other guild. xD
those guys should stay away.
they can rp by themselves for all i care.
they already have three rps together.
i didn't know that anything had happened. D;
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