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 Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 1:39 pm
I feel alot for those troubled souls that have done things they cant get over.
This isnt meant to be a political appeal or anything- but the war has cost alot. Maybe some of you will pray with me for reason... there are many people who have nightmares about war, and they cant sleep very well because of it, so maybe we should pray for them.
I would appreciate any warm intentions towards those who have suffered, or suffer because of the terrible things humans and armys do- venting, whatever really is welcomed about it.
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:27 am
I don't understand people who go to war and then come home and complain that they have PTSD or no legs or something. If you made the choice to join the army, it should have been a well thought out choice. You knew that this was a high possibility and went to war anyway.
I mean really, there's no excuse nowadays for being unaware of the realities of war regarding lost limbs, lost friends and lost sanity. You should expect to spend eight months in a trench, up to your neck in the corpses of your fallen comrades, and if you can't hack that s**t, don't go to war.
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:22 am
I think that there are several things that come into play though...
This one probably isn't so much an issue recently, but depending on when someone signed up for duty - the odds of actually seeing action was slim. So it was seen as a way for some people who wouldn't have the opportunity otherwise to get training and free college, so that they could move on to better things. Then everything went to s**t and people actually started having to go to Afghanistan and Iraq, and people actually had to deal with things they probably never really gave much thought to before. (not that there haven't been other things over the years, but they were a lot more limited in scope)
I think there are also a lot of people who think that because they are desensitized though video games/movies, etc... they think that they can handle whatever they end up facing if they actually have to go into battle. However the realities of such things are nowhere near what they experienced in-game, and I think it hits them that much harder because they really thought they could handle it.
I don't think it helps either when one is fighting in a war that doesn't really seem to serve any purpose. Afghanistan is one thing, but Iraq is more or less a giant pile of crap that we never should have stepped in. It probably goes a long way to making it easier to deal with things, when you can come home and know your service (and everything you just went through) made a difference, as opposed to going through all that crap for nothing.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:30 am
My Dad's a Veitnam Vet and believe me, PTSD is not something that can be wished away. Knowing that there will be death and blood and crap in no way actually prepares you for what happoens when you get there. You might expect that you could lose a limb or even your life but how do you prepare yourself for psycological trauma? And no, he wasn't drafted. He was a stupid kid without a lot of other options in life. Lots of folks who sign up to go to war are in a simialr position. You say it should be a well thought out choice but lots of people join up right out of high school. Many 17-18 year old don't actually think much of anything through that well. Some do. Some think they do. But mmost don't have enough real life experience to really get how big a deal this is. And what it you were raised in a family that consideres serving your country in war (regardless of the actual reasons for the war) to be your patriotic duty? You've been brought up with a certain outlook that doesn't neccessarily allow you be aware of some of the realities involved. And ncsweet brings up several excellent points as well.
My dad also voluteers at the VA hospital in our area. I've volunteered there a time or two myself. Believe me, the men and women that are there for mental health care aren't just "complaining" about PTSD. They're trying desperately not to lose thier minds. Many of them struggle with suicidal depression an homicidal rage that they have little to no control over.
I don't mean any of this to come across as an attack but it's a very personal subject.
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