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 Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:02 pm
I want a card that does ressurection and find myself torn between these two.
Both are sorcerries.
Raise Dead
B(lack)
Return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand
Pros: Cheap and it get's a creature back
Cons: You have to re-summon the creature
Vigor Mortis
B(lack) B(lack) 2
Return target creature card from your graveyard to play. If G was spent to play Vigor Mortis, that creature comes into play with a +1/+1 counter on it.
Pros: Creature comes directly into play!
If you're lucky enough to have G, it comes back stronger than ever! (and heeeeeeeere's phantom flock!)
Cons: Costs more. Not worth it on creatures that cost 4 or less.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:13 pm
Look at the creatures in your deck, really. If the vast majority of your creatures have a CMC of 3 or less, Raise Dead is the card of Choice. If the majority is 4 or more, go with Vigor Mortis.
Now, the main reason to play vigor mortis is to get a creature into play faster than actually hard-casting it. Use a card like Putrid Imp to put a creature with a high CMC into your graveyard, and then get it back on turn four.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:38 pm
I like both, but it's a tough choice. So I'll go with vigor mortis.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:57 pm
yeah, if you're using graveyard recursion, you are probably gonna wanna dump huge creatures in the grave and bring them back with vigor mortis/zombify. if you just want small creatures, raise dead would probably be better....but usually it's a sub-par card, in my opinion.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:39 pm
I personally like 1st turn dark ritual entomb exhume but thats my thought
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:22 pm
Albern Look at the creatures in your deck, really. If the vast majority of your creatures have a CMC of 3 or less, Raise Dead is the card of Choice. If the majority is 4 or more, go with Vigor Mortis.
Now, the main reason to play vigor mortis is to get a creature into play faster than actually hard-casting it. Use a card like Putrid Imp to put a creature with a high CMC into your graveyard, and then get it back on turn four. hmmmm, looking through my deck, I find 10 creatures with a CMC of 4 or higher and 12 with a CMC of two and under (All my 3s are enchantments, or instants) However out of those 12, there are only 9 of them I'd be wanting to get back. I do have a card that discards from my hand (Ghostly wings) but most of my creatures already have flying. Should I put that in there too?
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:26 pm
JamesVonJames Albern Look at the creatures in your deck, really. If the vast majority of your creatures have a CMC of 3 or less, Raise Dead is the card of Choice. If the majority is 4 or more, go with Vigor Mortis.
Now, the main reason to play vigor mortis is to get a creature into play faster than actually hard-casting it. Use a card like Putrid Imp to put a creature with a high CMC into your graveyard, and then get it back on turn four. hmmmm, looking through my deck, I find 10 creatures with a CMC of 4 or higher and 12 with a CMC of two and under (All my 3s are enchantments, or instants) However out of those 12, there are only 9 of them I'd be wanting to get back. I do have a card that discards from my hand (Ghostly wings) but most of my creatures already have flying. Should I put that in there too? if most of your creatures have flying, then you shouldn't have ghostly wings. you wanna try to avoid auras as much as you can, unless they're really worth it. and unless you plan on getting HUGE creatures in play with vigor mortis, you might just want to have another creature instead of the reanimation spell. it's often more efficient to play cards as they are instead of trying to bring back other cards.
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Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:57 pm
Why not post you decklist for us to see. That way we can help you understand what we're truly working with.
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:38 pm
Okay, I'll give it a shot. Need advice on land balancing anyway.
Lands:
9 swamps
11 plains
9 islands
Artifacts:
2 Wayfarer's Bauble
1 Chromatic Sphere
1 Pentad Prism
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sword of Kaldra
1 Neurok Stealthsuit
1 Whispersilk Cloak
1 Grafted Wargear
Creatures:
2 Steel Walls
1 Dimir Infiltrator
1 Angel of Mercy
1 Angel of Retribution
1 Blinding Angel
1 Platinum Angel
1 Voice of Grace
1 Beloved Chaplain
1 Phantom Flock
1 Ravenous Rats
1 Auriok Champion
1 Ageless Sentinels
1 Leaden Myr
1 Gold Myr
1 Master Decoy
1 Master Healer
1 Myr Mindservant
1 Orinthopter
1 Black Knight
1 Scalplexis
1 Thieving Magpie
1 Sage Owl
Instants:
1 Unsummon
1 Altar's Light
1 Awe Strike
1 Terror
1 Akroma's Blessing
2 Dark Banishing
Enchantments:
1 Honden of Cleansing Fire
1 Floating Sheild
1 Seal of Cleansing
1 Persuasion
1 Day of the Dragons
1 Pacifism
Sorceries:
1 Night's Whisper
1 Sacred Nectar
1 Sever Soul
1 Consult the Necrosages
1 Blackmail
1 Vigor Mortis*
(* card in question. As you can guess, I bought that Angel Deck from the other kid at school)
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:41 am
Aargh. Your deck has far too many one-ofs.
I can't advice what to keep and what to cut unless I know exactly what you want to do, though. But whatever you do keep, bump up to 3-4 copies. Seriously. Even if it IS casual.
@sorrow89: Entomb is banned in EVERYTHING. Except vintage. It's just restricted there.
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:43 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:11 am
It costs 1 black mana, and it sticks a card from your library into your graveyard. It's much too powerful for constructed formats, but if you're doing casual, play as many as you like.
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:33 pm
i love reanimator, and i miss entomb so much....
oh well, i guess i'll just use putrid imp to discard my fatties...but now i have to draw them, dang.
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:51 pm
Tricastelin i love reanimator, and i miss entomb so much.... oh well, i guess i'll just use putrid imp to discard my fatties...but now i have to draw them, dang. There's always Buried Alive cool
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Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:11 pm
Anyone thinks raise dead is better than Vigor Mortis needs to be shot
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