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Akshamala

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:30 pm


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May the fetus you save be gay. Button "for a chuckle" on Preemptive Karma



Today as I was talking with one of the ladies at PSU Students for Life about general abortion issues, I was reminded my Janet Folger's book of one thing---and this button from a pro-choicer explains it all. The pro-choice movement wants to get us off track.

I'm not saying that this button doesn't ring with some truth--there are certainly a lot of (what is perceived as) "homophobic" pro-lifers out there. But then again, any negative view about homosexuality (via religion or any other conviction) is considered "homophobia" to them.

I think that if the button actually mentioned abortion and what it is, it wouldn't be as catchy. Say, for example, "May the Fetus You Save From Being Dismembered Thanks to People Like Me Who Advocate Unrestricted Abortion be Gay". I doubt it would be as effective if, you know, the pro-choice movement actually mentioned the choice they are so wanting to protect, and yet never speak about. Plus, the button maker charges by the letter!


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you know what's funny about that? there are GLBTQ pro-life communities. The button just assume the gay community is pro-choice and liberal and all prolifers are from the Christian Right...But there are Feminists for Life, Left-Out (prolife liberals) we're really a diverse bunch.

and yes, I do hope the fetus I save will be happy smile


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Whether or not a fetus is gay isn't the issue--it's whether or not he or she is going to be allowed to live.


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Honestly, just taken as it's said... it makes no sense from a pro-abort POV. A fetus cannot actively "be gay" unless it "becomes" a human. IOW, they are assuming that a fetus is human, something they have espoused to be untrue for years. I know it's supposed to be a joke, but goshdarnit. -_-


Ooh! Button wars. How 'bout this: "May the child you choose be prolife"
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:01 pm


Ooh, I think someone should make that button you suggested! "May the child you choose be Pro-Life," that's great! biggrin

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:06 pm


I posted a couple of comments there, hope you don't mind me stealing that one you put at the end of your message. (Just realised after clicking the "submit" button that I should've asked first. sweatdrop )
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:29 pm


Ah, no problem, I.Am. whee

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:29 pm


It's offensive to me, in a personal sense.

As a gay man, it assumes that my life is something that would be funny if it angered people, who thought I was worth something.

It also supports the position that pro-life people are all right-wing homo haters, like you said, Akshamala.

It's just a moronic button, altogether.

I like your idea, better, for a button.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:35 pm


Hmph. It's "checking my first posts to make sure they aren't offensive;" I guess she just forgot to check her own to see if they were offensive. : P

And probably mine will never appear there, because they would be offensive to the Pro-Choicers that visit.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:46 pm


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Hmph. It's "checking my first posts to make sure they aren't offensive;" I guess she just forgot to check her own to see if they were offensive. : P

And probably mine will never appear there, because they would be offensive to the Pro-Choicers that visit.

They might allow mine.

But perhaps it's not well censored enough for their delicate choicer eyes.

rolleyes

Where's MY choice to post what an idiotic button that is?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:56 pm


You have as much say in this as you do in abortion. I was on another site where some guy was complaining that there are gay people who are prolife. It's okay to be a man and be prochoice, but how dare you be a man and prolife! Especially a gay one!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:01 pm


*coughdarkfirecough*

Oh, Orlando, if you ever read this, blow it out your a** buddy, and don't forget to practice what you preach. wink
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:50 pm


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Ooh, I think someone should make that button you suggested! "May the child you choose be Pro-Life," that's great! biggrin


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:04 pm


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You have as much say in this as you do in abortion. I was on another site where some guy was complaining that there are gay people who are prolife. It's okay to be a man and be prochoice, but how dare you be a man and prolife! Especially a gay one!
Geez. Doesn't he know that Pro-Lifers burn gays at the stake? After figuring out some way to get a female to rape them? And become pregnant? And give birth in the most painful, agonizing way? And then not care for the child, resulting in the child becoming a mass murderer?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:57 pm


I have to say I disagree with the quote;

""May the Fetus You Save From Being Dismembered Thanks to People Like Me Who Advocate Unrestricted Abortion be Gay"."

It seems to assume that pro-choice people *all* think abortion should be unrestricted, simply because they don't want it to become illegal and have many women and fetuses die horribly in black market abortion operating theatres..?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:14 pm


black market abortion would be just like it was before...done in doctor's offices by the same people who do legal abortions now. Those abortionists didn't disappear after they were allowed to practice abortion, they just had government sanction.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:36 am


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I have to say I disagree with the quote;

""May the Fetus You Save From Being Dismembered Thanks to People Like Me Who Advocate Unrestricted Abortion be Gay"."

It seems to assume that pro-choice people *all* think abortion should be unrestricted, simply because they don't want it to become illegal and have many women and fetuses die horribly in black market abortion operating theatres..?
Generally, however, ya'll do support abortion being restricted as little as possible; After all, ya'll are always saying that the fetus is not a human being, so ya'll should support unrestricted abortion up until the point that it becomes a human being.

Also, just because people die from illegal things doesn't mean we should make them legal. And ya'll don't really seem to care that much about the "fetuses dying horribly" in white-market abortion clinics.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:07 am


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Eeowynn
I have to say I disagree with the quote;

""May the Fetus You Save From Being Dismembered Thanks to People Like Me Who Advocate Unrestricted Abortion be Gay"."

It seems to assume that pro-choice people *all* think abortion should be unrestricted, simply because they don't want it to become illegal and have many women and fetuses die horribly in black market abortion operating theatres..?
Generally, however, ya'll do support abortion being restricted as little as possible; After all, ya'll are always saying that the fetus is not a human being, so ya'll should support unrestricted abortion up until the point that it becomes a human being.

Also, just because people die from illegal things doesn't mean we should make them legal. And ya'll don't really seem to care that much about the "fetuses dying horribly" in white-market abortion clinics.


Well lets see, I think personally that the time limit for abortion should be lowered as I think you can continue to get them too late on in a pregnancy. In this I mean that whilst it is still a little clump of cells which bears no resemblance whatsoever to the human being it may or may not become, A woman has a right to choose whether or not to let this clump of cells grow inside of her to eventually become a person. So actually no, I'm not saying it isnt a person, I'm saying a little clump of cells isn't a person. (And a clump of stem cells is most certainley not a person...you can get them from the placenta an umbilical cord? Is that a person too? )

See above. As I only believe in abortion to the point where I would consider that ball of cells a person, then I wouldn't consider abortion "killing" anymore than say...having a mole removed as "killing." You can't "kill" what isn't "alive" ...
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