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Javier Cross

PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:36 am


I recalled that Sir Tristian was the 3rd best knight in the Round Table, but i would request to hear about his various warrior feats, so i can go and examine them in closer inspection, please?
All i recalled was that he fought at least one giant in his life. redface
PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:17 am


Ah, Sir Tristan. Let's see, he won a tournament held by his uncle, King Mark, to be chosen as a champion to go and slay the dragon that savaged Ireland. He defeated it, and won Iseult as a bride for Mark, but they fell in love and carried on an adulterous affair. I don't like stories that attach Tristan to Arthur; that only started when the Arthurian mythos was getting really popular and everyone thought that any knight story should have Arthur in it.

Erosphoros


Grey-Eyed Boleyn

PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:54 pm


Sir Tristan is not usually associated with the Round Table. He is the Tristan in Tristan and Isolde, which is a (relatively) well-known opera, play and fairy tale. (And possibly a movie. I seem to remember there being a movie made of it.)
PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:21 pm


All i recall when i recalled hearing about him somewhere, was that he was the 3rd best knight of the Round Table(well he became the 3rd best knight, at least!) just behind either Gawain and Lancelot or Lancelot and Galahad, depending on the particular period of time in Arthur's life we are talking about.

Javier Cross


Erosphoros

PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:18 am


Grey-Eyed Boleyn
Sir Tristan is not usually associated with the Round Table. He is the Tristan in Tristan and Isolde, which is a (relatively) well-known opera, play and fairy tale. (And possibly a movie. I seem to remember there being a movie made of it.)

Before it was an opera and a film (starring the YUMMY James Franco!) it was a story. And yes, Sir Tristan is often described as being a Knight of the Round Table, but this was a relatively late addition to the story; in the original, he was simply a Cornish nobleman who loved an Irish princess. It is said that he was banished to Bretagne when he was caught with her, where he became a great warrior. But he was bitten by serpents, and there was no help for him but the healing arts of Ireland and Iseult. So a ship was sent for her, and when it returned, it was to hoist white sails if she had agreed to come to him, and black if she had not. His jealous wife told him that the sails were black, and he gave up the struggle and died, and the bells began their tolling as Iseult ran up the strand. She threw herself upon him, and her grief was the death of her also. They were laid in the earth side by side, and from Iseult's grave there grew a brier, and from Tristan's grave there grew a rose, and the plants grew together and were joined as one, and together at the last, they lay entwined.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:22 am


Erosphoros
Grey-Eyed Boleyn
Sir Tristan is not usually associated with the Round Table. He is the Tristan in Tristan and Isolde, which is a (relatively) well-known opera, play and fairy tale. (And possibly a movie. I seem to remember there being a movie made of it.)

Before it was an opera and a film (starring the YUMMY James Franco!) it was a story. And yes, Sir Tristan is often described as being a Knight of the Round Table, but this was a relatively late addition to the story; in the original, he was simply a Cornish nobleman who loved an Irish princess. It is said that he was banished to Bretagne when he was caught with her, where he became a great warrior. But he was bitten by serpents, and there was no help for him but the healing arts of Ireland and Iseult. So a ship was sent for her, and when it returned, it was to hoist white sails if she had agreed to come to him, and black if she had not. His jealous wife told him that the sails were black, and he gave up the struggle and died, and the bells began their tolling as Iseult ran up the strand. She threw herself upon him, and her grief was the death of her also. They were laid in the earth side by side, and from Iseult's grave there grew a brier, and from Tristan's grave there grew a rose, and the plants grew together and were joined as one, and together at the last, they lay entwined.


What i'd wish to know, is how come Tristan's cursed to die very sucky deaths, no matter what version of his death we find?
I suspect it might have had something to do with his ancestors, but that would be borderline speculation on my part.

At any rate, is there more about his deeds as a warrior?

Javier Cross


Erosphoros

PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:07 am


Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Grey-Eyed Boleyn
Sir Tristan is not usually associated with the Round Table. He is the Tristan in Tristan and Isolde, which is a (relatively) well-known opera, play and fairy tale. (And possibly a movie. I seem to remember there being a movie made of it.)

Before it was an opera and a film (starring the YUMMY James Franco!) it was a story. And yes, Sir Tristan is often described as being a Knight of the Round Table, but this was a relatively late addition to the story; in the original, he was simply a Cornish nobleman who loved an Irish princess. It is said that he was banished to Bretagne when he was caught with her, where he became a great warrior. But he was bitten by serpents, and there was no help for him but the healing arts of Ireland and Iseult. So a ship was sent for her, and when it returned, it was to hoist white sails if she had agreed to come to him, and black if she had not. His jealous wife told him that the sails were black, and he gave up the struggle and died, and the bells began their tolling as Iseult ran up the strand. She threw herself upon him, and her grief was the death of her also. They were laid in the earth side by side, and from Iseult's grave there grew a brier, and from Tristan's grave there grew a rose, and the plants grew together and were joined as one, and together at the last, they lay entwined.


What i'd wish to know, is how come Tristan's cursed to die very sucky deaths, no matter what version of his death we find?
I suspect it might have had something to do with his ancestors, but that would be borderline speculation on my part.

At any rate, is there more about his deeds as a warrior?

Because the story of Tristan and Isolde is a tragedy. Its sorrow is what give it its power and depth.

Let's see... Sir Tristan slew Morhault, the Irish prince, elder brother of Princess Isolde. He also killed a great Serpent or Dragon that was threatening Ireland and so won Isolde as his uncle's wife, but fell in love with her on the way back to Cornwall. Hmm... it's mostly just said that he's a great warrior who won renown in war.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:37 am


Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Grey-Eyed Boleyn
Sir Tristan is not usually associated with the Round Table. He is the Tristan in Tristan and Isolde, which is a (relatively) well-known opera, play and fairy tale. (And possibly a movie. I seem to remember there being a movie made of it.)

Before it was an opera and a film (starring the YUMMY James Franco!) it was a story. And yes, Sir Tristan is often described as being a Knight of the Round Table, but this was a relatively late addition to the story; in the original, he was simply a Cornish nobleman who loved an Irish princess. It is said that he was banished to Bretagne when he was caught with her, where he became a great warrior. But he was bitten by serpents, and there was no help for him but the healing arts of Ireland and Iseult. So a ship was sent for her, and when it returned, it was to hoist white sails if she had agreed to come to him, and black if she had not. His jealous wife told him that the sails were black, and he gave up the struggle and died, and the bells began their tolling as Iseult ran up the strand. She threw herself upon him, and her grief was the death of her also. They were laid in the earth side by side, and from Iseult's grave there grew a brier, and from Tristan's grave there grew a rose, and the plants grew together and were joined as one, and together at the last, they lay entwined.


What i'd wish to know, is how come Tristan's cursed to die very sucky deaths, no matter what version of his death we find?
I suspect it might have had something to do with his ancestors, but that would be borderline speculation on my part.

At any rate, is there more about his deeds as a warrior?

Because the story of Tristan and Isolde is a tragedy. Its sorrow is what give it its power and depth.

Let's see... Sir Tristan slew Morhault, the Irish prince, elder brother of Princess Isolde. He also killed a great Serpent or Dragon that was threatening Ireland and so won Isolde as his uncle's wife, but fell in love with her on the way back to Cornwall. Hmm... it's mostly just said that he's a great warrior who won renown in war.


Was it ever spoken on which wars he fought, exactly?
I want to learn more about him, in terms of events.

Javier Cross


Erosphoros

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:09 pm


Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Grey-Eyed Boleyn
Sir Tristan is not usually associated with the Round Table. He is the Tristan in Tristan and Isolde, which is a (relatively) well-known opera, play and fairy tale. (And possibly a movie. I seem to remember there being a movie made of it.)

Before it was an opera and a film (starring the YUMMY James Franco!) it was a story. And yes, Sir Tristan is often described as being a Knight of the Round Table, but this was a relatively late addition to the story; in the original, he was simply a Cornish nobleman who loved an Irish princess. It is said that he was banished to Bretagne when he was caught with her, where he became a great warrior. But he was bitten by serpents, and there was no help for him but the healing arts of Ireland and Iseult. So a ship was sent for her, and when it returned, it was to hoist white sails if she had agreed to come to him, and black if she had not. His jealous wife told him that the sails were black, and he gave up the struggle and died, and the bells began their tolling as Iseult ran up the strand. She threw herself upon him, and her grief was the death of her also. They were laid in the earth side by side, and from Iseult's grave there grew a brier, and from Tristan's grave there grew a rose, and the plants grew together and were joined as one, and together at the last, they lay entwined.


What i'd wish to know, is how come Tristan's cursed to die very sucky deaths, no matter what version of his death we find?
I suspect it might have had something to do with his ancestors, but that would be borderline speculation on my part.

At any rate, is there more about his deeds as a warrior?

Because the story of Tristan and Isolde is a tragedy. Its sorrow is what give it its power and depth.

Let's see... Sir Tristan slew Morhault, the Irish prince, elder brother of Princess Isolde. He also killed a great Serpent or Dragon that was threatening Ireland and so won Isolde as his uncle's wife, but fell in love with her on the way back to Cornwall. Hmm... it's mostly just said that he's a great warrior who won renown in war.


Was it ever spoken on which wars he fought, exactly?
I want to learn more about him, in terms of events.

I know he fought in the war between Cornwall and Ireland, and ended it when he brought Isolde back to Britain. The Arthurian romances also say that he fought on King Arthur's behalf, probably against Saxons or rebels or Roman remnants.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:44 am


Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Grey-Eyed Boleyn
Sir Tristan is not usually associated with the Round Table. He is the Tristan in Tristan and Isolde, which is a (relatively) well-known opera, play and fairy tale. (And possibly a movie. I seem to remember there being a movie made of it.)

Before it was an opera and a film (starring the YUMMY James Franco!) it was a story. And yes, Sir Tristan is often described as being a Knight of the Round Table, but this was a relatively late addition to the story; in the original, he was simply a Cornish nobleman who loved an Irish princess. It is said that he was banished to Bretagne when he was caught with her, where he became a great warrior. But he was bitten by serpents, and there was no help for him but the healing arts of Ireland and Iseult. So a ship was sent for her, and when it returned, it was to hoist white sails if she had agreed to come to him, and black if she had not. His jealous wife told him that the sails were black, and he gave up the struggle and died, and the bells began their tolling as Iseult ran up the strand. She threw herself upon him, and her grief was the death of her also. They were laid in the earth side by side, and from Iseult's grave there grew a brier, and from Tristan's grave there grew a rose, and the plants grew together and were joined as one, and together at the last, they lay entwined.


What i'd wish to know, is how come Tristan's cursed to die very sucky deaths, no matter what version of his death we find?
I suspect it might have had something to do with his ancestors, but that would be borderline speculation on my part.

At any rate, is there more about his deeds as a warrior?

Because the story of Tristan and Isolde is a tragedy. Its sorrow is what give it its power and depth.

Let's see... Sir Tristan slew Morhault, the Irish prince, elder brother of Princess Isolde. He also killed a great Serpent or Dragon that was threatening Ireland and so won Isolde as his uncle's wife, but fell in love with her on the way back to Cornwall. Hmm... it's mostly just said that he's a great warrior who won renown in war.


Was it ever spoken on which wars he fought, exactly?
I want to learn more about him, in terms of events.

I know he fought in the war between Cornwall and Ireland, and ended it when he brought Isolde back to Britain. The Arthurian romances also say that he fought on King Arthur's behalf, probably against Saxons or rebels or Roman remnants.


Was it ever stated from which half of Rome were the remnants from, exactly?
Tristan must have been someone to reckon with, if he was the 3rd best knight in the round table, i believe.
Considering how he was also prune to getting killed off, i would also think he'd have an acute case of Post-traumatic stress disorder.

Javier Cross


Erosphoros

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:40 pm


Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross


What i'd wish to know, is how come Tristan's cursed to die very sucky deaths, no matter what version of his death we find?
I suspect it might have had something to do with his ancestors, but that would be borderline speculation on my part.

At any rate, is there more about his deeds as a warrior?

Because the story of Tristan and Isolde is a tragedy. Its sorrow is what give it its power and depth.

Let's see... Sir Tristan slew Morhault, the Irish prince, elder brother of Princess Isolde. He also killed a great Serpent or Dragon that was threatening Ireland and so won Isolde as his uncle's wife, but fell in love with her on the way back to Cornwall. Hmm... it's mostly just said that he's a great warrior who won renown in war.


Was it ever spoken on which wars he fought, exactly?
I want to learn more about him, in terms of events.

I know he fought in the war between Cornwall and Ireland, and ended it when he brought Isolde back to Britain. The Arthurian romances also say that he fought on King Arthur's behalf, probably against Saxons or rebels or Roman remnants.


Was it ever stated from which half of Rome were the remnants from, exactly?
Tristan must have been someone to reckon with, if he was the 3rd best knight in the round table, i believe.
Considering how he was also prune to getting killed off, i would also think he'd have an acute case of Post-traumatic stress disorder.

Western Rome, of course! Byzantium never conquered Britain.
And I think Tristan was just kind of a really mopey guy in general. He died of poison, didn't he? Snakebite, or similar.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:03 am


Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross


What i'd wish to know, is how come Tristan's cursed to die very sucky deaths, no matter what version of his death we find?
I suspect it might have had something to do with his ancestors, but that would be borderline speculation on my part.

At any rate, is there more about his deeds as a warrior?

Because the story of Tristan and Isolde is a tragedy. Its sorrow is what give it its power and depth.

Let's see... Sir Tristan slew Morhault, the Irish prince, elder brother of Princess Isolde. He also killed a great Serpent or Dragon that was threatening Ireland and so won Isolde as his uncle's wife, but fell in love with her on the way back to Cornwall. Hmm... it's mostly just said that he's a great warrior who won renown in war.


Was it ever spoken on which wars he fought, exactly?
I want to learn more about him, in terms of events.

I know he fought in the war between Cornwall and Ireland, and ended it when he brought Isolde back to Britain. The Arthurian romances also say that he fought on King Arthur's behalf, probably against Saxons or rebels or Roman remnants.


Was it ever stated from which half of Rome were the remnants from, exactly?
Tristan must have been someone to reckon with, if he was the 3rd best knight in the round table, i believe.
Considering how he was also prune to getting killed off, i would also think he'd have an acute case of Post-traumatic stress disorder.

Western Rome, of course! Byzantium never conquered Britain.
And I think Tristan was just kind of a really mopey guy in general. He died of poison, didn't he? Snakebite, or similar.


Thanks for clearing that up.
Were it safe for me to say anything about the blood-lines matter, here, i'd say it may as well be like Ancestor(or Co-Ancestor, at least!), like descendant, if i recall a certain Trojan War Survivor who had to lead his people to Western Europe.(not saying his name here, i hope we can do that, in another thread!)
I would not be surprised if he died from poison from a weapon, or from the bite of a poisonous vampire he may have slain before the Vampire warrior took Tristan with him.(Now that could be very much a new take on his dust-biting, right there!)

Javier Cross


Erosphoros

PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:16 am


Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross


Was it ever spoken on which wars he fought, exactly?
I want to learn more about him, in terms of events.

I know he fought in the war between Cornwall and Ireland, and ended it when he brought Isolde back to Britain. The Arthurian romances also say that he fought on King Arthur's behalf, probably against Saxons or rebels or Roman remnants.


Was it ever stated from which half of Rome were the remnants from, exactly?
Tristan must have been someone to reckon with, if he was the 3rd best knight in the round table, i believe.
Considering how he was also prune to getting killed off, i would also think he'd have an acute case of Post-traumatic stress disorder.

Western Rome, of course! Byzantium never conquered Britain.
And I think Tristan was just kind of a really mopey guy in general. He died of poison, didn't he? Snakebite, or similar.


Thanks for clearing that up.
Were it safe for me to say anything about the blood-lines matter, here, i'd say it may as well be like Ancestor(or Co-Ancestor, at least!), like descendant, if i recall a certain Trojan War Survivor who had to lead his people to Western Europe.(not saying his name here, i hope we can do that, in another thread!)
I would not be surprised if he died from poison from a weapon, or from the bite of a poisonous vampire he may have slain before the Vampire warrior took Tristan with him.(Now that could be very much a new take on his dust-biting, right there!)

Tristan had a tendency to get poisoned. There was the time he went to Ireland to fight a dragon and it poisoned him; and Isolde healed him. That was how they met, see.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:25 am


Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross
Erosphoros
Javier Cross


Was it ever spoken on which wars he fought, exactly?
I want to learn more about him, in terms of events.

I know he fought in the war between Cornwall and Ireland, and ended it when he brought Isolde back to Britain. The Arthurian romances also say that he fought on King Arthur's behalf, probably against Saxons or rebels or Roman remnants.


Was it ever stated from which half of Rome were the remnants from, exactly?
Tristan must have been someone to reckon with, if he was the 3rd best knight in the round table, i believe.
Considering how he was also prune to getting killed off, i would also think he'd have an acute case of Post-traumatic stress disorder.

Western Rome, of course! Byzantium never conquered Britain.
And I think Tristan was just kind of a really mopey guy in general. He died of poison, didn't he? Snakebite, or similar.


Thanks for clearing that up.
Were it safe for me to say anything about the blood-lines matter, here, i'd say it may as well be like Ancestor(or Co-Ancestor, at least!), like descendant, if i recall a certain Trojan War Survivor who had to lead his people to Western Europe.(not saying his name here, i hope we can do that, in another thread!)
I would not be surprised if he died from poison from a weapon, or from the bite of a poisonous vampire he may have slain before the Vampire warrior took Tristan with him.(Now that could be very much a new take on his dust-biting, right there!)

Tristan had a tendency to get poisoned. There was the time he went to Ireland to fight a dragon and it poisoned him; and Isolde healed him. That was how they met, see.


Tell me more about the regards, Eros.

Javier Cross


stanptg

PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:45 pm


Erosphoros
Grey-Eyed Boleyn
Sir Tristan is not usually associated with the Round Table. He is the Tristan in Tristan and Isolde, which is a (relatively) well-known opera, play and fairy tale. (And possibly a movie. I seem to remember there being a movie made of it.)

Before it was an opera and a film (starring the YUMMY James Franco!) it was a story. And yes, Sir Tristan is often described as being a Knight of the Round Table, but this was a relatively late addition to the story; in the original, he was simply a Cornish nobleman who loved an Irish princess. It is said that he was banished to Bretagne when he was caught with her, where he became a great warrior. But he was bitten by serpents, and there was no help for him but the healing arts of Ireland and Iseult. So a ship was sent for her, and when it returned, it was to hoist white sails if she had agreed to come to him, and black if she had not. His jealous wife told him that the sails were black, and he gave up the struggle and died, and the bells began their tolling as Iseult ran up the strand. She threw herself upon him, and her grief was the death of her also. They were laid in the earth side by side, and from Iseult's grave there grew a brier, and from Tristan's grave there grew a rose, and the plants grew together and were joined as one, and together at the last, they lay entwined.


That sounds alot like Theseus and Aegeus... and Romeo and Juliet.
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