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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:24 pm
Have you guys seen this show? I'd usually take a bullet before I'd watch anything on TLC, but it's managed to rope me in with a few shows, and this is one of them. For anybody who hasn't heard of the show, it follows a polygamist Mormon family and exploits for sweet, sweet money documents it.
I know there are threads about polygamy in this guild, and on them I've shown my support. I think that if consenting adults want to be in a polygamist relationship, they should be able to. And of course my opinion still stands.
But does the show make anyone else feel sad for the wives? The husband decides that he wants another wife, and his current wives all are obviously very upset. What they say isn't so harsh, but anyone who's met a women can tell by their body language and tone can tell that they're really upset. And he totally ignores them. It's like they're confronted with a life changing decision, and they don't get a say. And I realize that they chose that life, but two of them don't work and are kind of defined by their family. Cody (the husband) works and has a life outside the home. And it seems to me that his decision to take another wife impacts the lives of the other wives more than his. The wives have been together for, what, over a decade? They already have a dynamic. Now we're adding in a new girl? A new girl who is, let's face it, younger and the new, exciting romance? The wives say they like her, but their body language doesn't seem so sure. So it will be interesting to see how the dynamic changes.
Basically, I don't think Cody understands women at all. It's not an excuse though. He doesn't understand women because it never occurred to him to try.
>> What are your thoughts on polygamy? Should people legally be allowed to take multiple spouses?
>> For people who watch the show: What are your opinions on Cody's behavior? His wives'? The show in general?
>> Would you ever enter into a polyamorous relationship? Could you watch your spouse/partner fall in love with somebody else?
>> Guys: Do you think you understand women? Can you tell if your girlfriend (or friends that are girls for that matter) show possessive body language over you? Can you tell what a girl really thinks about another girl based on her tone and body language even if she says "I like her..."
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:53 am
Are they seriously mormon? Because polygamy is no longer allowed to be practiced within the Church otherwise those who practice it will be excommunicated.
And as for the whole polygamous relationships, I don't agree with them, but if that type of lifestyle works for certain people, then go for it. I, personally, will never be in. The way I look at it is, if my husband wants another wife or lover or whatever, I will be packing my things and slapping the divorce papers on the table before leaving. I would feel replaced and like I wasn't good enough if my husband felt he wanted another wife. I feel I have a right to be totally selfish about my husband's affections and shouldn't have to share those feelings with another woman.
I have never watched the show Sister Wives. It just didn't look like a show I wanted to watch. Didn't look interesting.
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:56 am
I hate shows like this, but I will comment.
I see polygamy as a man wanting to feel powerful and worshipped. I don't think it has anything to do with love, but ownership. The more wives the more powerful. I feel really bad for the wives. Yes, they chose it, but they did not choose to have more and more and more sister wives. I think what that man is doing is selfish. He doesn't seem to care for the others anymore. But really, after the the third wife will a man care for the first anoymore?
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:05 am
Shadows-shine And as for the whole polygamous relationships, I don't agree with them, but if that type of lifestyle works for certain people, then go for it. I, personally, will never be in. The way I look at it is, if my husband wants another wife or lover or whatever, I will be packing my things and slapping the divorce papers on the table before leaving. I would feel replaced and like I wasn't good enough if my husband felt he wanted another wife. I feel I have a right to be totally selfish about my husband's affections and shouldn't have to share those feelings with another woman. I like how you said that.
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:49 am
Well, I have only seen the commercials about the show, but I have read a few things about these kind of relationships recently.
I honestly don't see a problem with polygamous relationships in general, when all who are involved have a say in who is added to a relationship, and it is up to the individuals involved to leave said relationships as they please.
The "religiously organized" polygamous marriages, where it is up to husbands to bring in whoever they want, and up to "church" elders to send women to new homes kind of irk me though. That kind of relationship, where the woman is basically the property of the church and her husband doesn't seem any better than human trafficking to me.
I met a girl who actually had to escape from a situation like that. She had to sneak away, and she worried for a long time that people would came and take her back. Luckily she had the help of an organization that helped her move and taught her to be independent.
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:04 pm
I've never been for polygamy myself but it's a personal opinion. Relationships between two people are complicated enough without having to throw additional partners into the mix, I see those that get into polygamous relationships as biting off more than they can chew, especially if children come into the mix. That and if one person's not enough, then when will it ever be enough? All personal opinion as I stated, certainly nothing I would impose on anyone.
That's if it's all around consensual and everyone has a say. For situations like these all I can do is shake my head and wonder why those women are giving men like him that sort of power.
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:14 pm
Shadows-shine Are they seriously mormon? Because polygamy is no longer allowed to be practiced within the Church otherwise those who practice it will be excommunicated. And as for the whole polygamous relationships, I don't agree with them, but if that type of lifestyle works for certain people, then go for it. I, personally, will never be in. The way I look at it is, if my husband wants another wife or lover or whatever, I will be packing my things and slapping the divorce papers on the table before leaving. I would feel replaced and like I wasn't good enough if my husband felt he wanted another wife. I feel I have a right to be totally selfish about my husband's affections and shouldn't have to share those feelings with another woman. I have never watched the show Sister Wives. It just didn't look like a show I wanted to watch. Didn't look interesting. I think so. I don't remember if they named a specific religion, but they keep referring to "the faith", and they've commented that while the practice of polygamy is part of their faith, it's frowned upon in general by the modern church. I don't remember if they specifically said it or I just put the pieces together. While I've seen Abrahamic sects that allow polygamy, I don't know of any other sect that encouraged it as part of the faith.
@ Aakosir: I do to, and I'm actually embarrassed to admit that I watch the show. But I saw the commercials, and the second I wondered "I wonder how polygamy affects actual people and a real family dynamic", it was over. I realized that I've only looked at polygamy in a vacuum, and my curiosity beat my loathing for anything TLC.
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:22 pm
brainnsoup Shadows-shine Are they seriously mormon? Because polygamy is no longer allowed to be practiced within the Church otherwise those who practice it will be excommunicated. And as for the whole polygamous relationships, I don't agree with them, but if that type of lifestyle works for certain people, then go for it. I, personally, will never be in. The way I look at it is, if my husband wants another wife or lover or whatever, I will be packing my things and slapping the divorce papers on the table before leaving. I would feel replaced and like I wasn't good enough if my husband felt he wanted another wife. I feel I have a right to be totally selfish about my husband's affections and shouldn't have to share those feelings with another woman. I have never watched the show Sister Wives. It just didn't look like a show I wanted to watch. Didn't look interesting. I think so. I don't remember if they named a specific religion, but they keep referring to "the faith", and they've commented that while the practice of polygamy is part of their faith, it's frowned upon in general by the modern church. I don't remember if they specifically said it or I just put the pieces together. While I've seen Abrahamic sects that allow polygamy, I don't know of any other sect that encouraged it as part of the faith.
@ Aakosir: I do to, and I'm actually embarrassed to admit that I watch the show. But I saw the commercials, and the second I wondered "I wonder how polygamy affects actual people and a real family dynamic", it was over. I realized that I've only looked at polygamy in a vacuum, and my curiosity beat my loathing for anything TLC.Ah, I was just curious, as I know the practice is condemned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, but I do know of a sect that isn't affiliated or associated with the LDS Church that are called the FLDS and they practice polygamy.
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:27 pm
brainnsoup Shadows-shine Are they seriously mormon? Because polygamy is no longer allowed to be practiced within the Church otherwise those who practice it will be excommunicated. And as for the whole polygamous relationships, I don't agree with them, but if that type of lifestyle works for certain people, then go for it. I, personally, will never be in. The way I look at it is, if my husband wants another wife or lover or whatever, I will be packing my things and slapping the divorce papers on the table before leaving. I would feel replaced and like I wasn't good enough if my husband felt he wanted another wife. I feel I have a right to be totally selfish about my husband's affections and shouldn't have to share those feelings with another woman. I have never watched the show Sister Wives. It just didn't look like a show I wanted to watch. Didn't look interesting. @ Aakosir: I do to, and I'm actually embarrassed to admit that I watch the show. But I saw the commercials, and the second I wondered "I wonder how polygamy affects actual people and a real family dynamic", it was over. I realized that I've only looked at polygamy in a vacuum, and my curiosity beat my loathing for anything TLC. We all have those shows that we scoff at, but eventually draw us in. I remember when Sailor Moon first came on Cartoon Network. I thought it was goofy then ended up really liking it XD But for the most part I don't like "reality" shows.
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:35 pm
Aakosir I hate shows like this, but I will comment.
I see polygamy as a man wanting to feel powerful and worshipped. I don't think it has anything to do with love, but ownership. The more wives the more powerful. I feel really bad for the wives. Yes, they chose it, but they did not choose to have more and more and more sister wives. I think what that man is doing is selfish. He doesn't seem to care for the others anymore. But really, after the the third wife will a man care for the first anoymore? I agree with you. But has anyone ever thought of what would happen if one of the sister wives wanted to marry another man?
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:01 pm
OhSoMiahx3 Aakosir I hate shows like this, but I will comment.
I see polygamy as a man wanting to feel powerful and worshipped. I don't think it has anything to do with love, but ownership. The more wives the more powerful. I feel really bad for the wives. Yes, they chose it, but they did not choose to have more and more and more sister wives. I think what that man is doing is selfish. He doesn't seem to care for the others anymore. But really, after the the third wife will a man care for the first anoymore? I agree with you. But has anyone ever thought of what would happen if one of the sister wives wanted to marry another man? "What are you talking about?! That's blapshomy! She's a whore!"
Yup. Gotta love the hypocrtical societies/beliefs like that... Girls already have a hard time having more than one sexual partner in her lifetime without being called a whore. But guys are applauded for the girls the screw...
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:12 pm
Aakosir OhSoMiahx3 Aakosir I hate shows like this, but I will comment.
I see polygamy as a man wanting to feel powerful and worshipped. I don't think it has anything to do with love, but ownership. The more wives the more powerful. I feel really bad for the wives. Yes, they chose it, but they did not choose to have more and more and more sister wives. I think what that man is doing is selfish. He doesn't seem to care for the others anymore. But really, after the the third wife will a man care for the first anoymore? I agree with you. But has anyone ever thought of what would happen if one of the sister wives wanted to marry another man? "What are you talking about?! That's blapshomy! She's a whore!"
Yup. Gotta love the hypocrtical societies/beliefs like that... Girls already have a hard time having more than one sexual partner in her lifetime without being called a whore. But guys are applauded for the girls the screw...It's a double-standard, and it's just wrong. I completely agree with you, guys shouldn't be applauded for screwing multiple girls.
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:37 pm
OhSoMiahx3 Aakosir OhSoMiahx3 Aakosir I hate shows like this, but I will comment.
I see polygamy as a man wanting to feel powerful and worshipped. I don't think it has anything to do with love, but ownership. The more wives the more powerful. I feel really bad for the wives. Yes, they chose it, but they did not choose to have more and more and more sister wives. I think what that man is doing is selfish. He doesn't seem to care for the others anymore. But really, after the the third wife will a man care for the first anoymore? I agree with you. But has anyone ever thought of what would happen if one of the sister wives wanted to marry another man? "What are you talking about?! That's blapshomy! She's a whore!"
Yup. Gotta love the hypocrtical societies/beliefs like that... Girls already have a hard time having more than one sexual partner in her lifetime without being called a whore. But guys are applauded for the girls the screw...It's a double-standard, and it's just wrong. I completely agree with you, guys shouldn't be applauded for screwing multiple girls. Yea. But there are modest men out there, they are just hard to find.
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:31 pm
OhSoMiahx3 Aakosir I hate shows like this, but I will comment.
I see polygamy as a man wanting to feel powerful and worshipped. I don't think it has anything to do with love, but ownership. The more wives the more powerful. I feel really bad for the wives. Yes, they chose it, but they did not choose to have more and more and more sister wives. I think what that man is doing is selfish. He doesn't seem to care for the others anymore. But really, after the the third wife will a man care for the first anoymore? I agree with you. But has anyone ever thought of what would happen if one of the sister wives wanted to marry another man? That was one of my first thoughts too. It actually comes up when the husband is dating the newest girl. His first wife asked him how he would feel if she started dating another man or took another husband. And before he could even put herself in her shoes, he went off about how disgusting it would be for her to be seeing another man.
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