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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:45 pm
I'm thinking we should start off by everyone throwing in ideas on various cultures or simply cultural aspects you think we should have. You can have it in mind for a specific race or as something simply to toy with. I'll try to keep up with everything and have various cultures and specific aspects here in this beginning thread so people don't have to read every single post to know what's going on.
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:28 pm
(O.o) I so need to figure out specifically what I'm planning to contribute, as I'm being barraged with school work. Nonetheless, I just thought of something. Even though Tears is doing races, and I'm pretty sure she may have already thought of this, I think that the orcs should have a warring culture. Yeah. Already thought of, but I mean as a culture with specific religion. I'm thinking of looking at Norse lore and mythology, and we may be able to link that with the Orcs for something more filling. You know what I mean?
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:27 am
No, you don't need to decide what you are contributing. I don't mind if you don't have anything specific, I was just thinking there could be people I go to for specific things or have them keep tabs on what's going on in one section or another and talk with me about things so I'm not the only one reading everything and being the ultimate say... I know I am, but maybe I'm taking things one way and I'm not seeing what you or the people posting are seeing, so if I had someone in each section willing to read over things, discuss them with me and our likes and dislikes for things of the world, then I think it would be more of a positive than a negative.
As for a waring culture with religion and worship and such in line with that, I know what you mean. There could be a race with such a culture as well as races split between a fine line of a waring culture and something else...
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:18 pm
Wow. You got me thinking of Orcs as the different factions and tribes found in Africa before colonization and whatnot. Of course, we can have a race that is broken up into factions against each other, but I'd prefer them having a larger plot of land, so it can be easier to say who owns what territory. You know what I mean.
I can picture elves being the Navii from Avatar. Though, they do resemble them in figure, that does make sense. Therefore, we can use avatar as an example of how the culture of the elves could be. Of course, we may just add some more things to it or take away, but still. Things like that may work.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:29 am
All might Racial Write up Woman here, (and coughing a lung up on the other side of the internet, and trying to get my ears to stop ringing.) Can't do much right now because being sick, and even recovering from being sick, makes my mind lose any appearance of having continuity, in other words, I'm loopy right now.
My idea for Orcs is a very military based society, honor, discipline, and gutting people who disagree with you. I as figuring a mix of Sparta, Samurai, and Vikings, but more tribal, or clannish. An Orc's rank in life is based off of their ability to kill, and their ability to follow orders. Culturally Orcs would be the military ideal, but would be behind in all other areas. You would also likely have a number of Orcs who fall out of Orc society do to not fitting in to the strict system. I think that Orcs could occasionally come to great power, under a great and charismatic leader, only to fragment again after the leaders fall, and would spend most of their time fragmented. By the way this would be historically most like the Germanic tribes of the roman period.
As for the Elves being like the Navii, no, just no. Elves like cities, sure their cities have a bunch of trees growing in them, but its because of elven aesthetics, elves care more about the cities then the trees. Elves see the environment as important for the future, and they think its pretty, that is the elven view on the environment. I have also meant them to be a mostly secular group, they are an independent lot who don't tend to look to others for help wither it be other people, or gods.
Oh and the race that I plan to write next, are trolls, who I intend to be another nature oriented group, but with a culture very different from elves, in fact I plan them to be rather opposites of a sort. Elves are about skill, trolls are about force, elves like courtesy and refinement, as where trolls are almost rude, and direct.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:08 am
Aren't trolls made of the elements. I mean like...don't they usually manifest from rocks or groupings of trees and dirt and whatnot?
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:56 pm
Neotepid Aren't trolls made of the elements. I mean like...don't they usually manifest from rocks or groupings of trees and dirt and whatnot? Trolls vary, a lot. I'm going humanoid, related to Orcs similarly to how humans and elves are related.
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:01 pm
BoredTears Neotepid Aren't trolls made of the elements. I mean like...don't they usually manifest from rocks or groupings of trees and dirt and whatnot? Trolls vary, a lot. I'm going humanoid, related to Orcs similarly to how humans and elves are related. Just checking, because as I was thinking of the magical tendency thing, which is just a theory rather than something we fully implement, I was wondering who is related to who. Because like...there's Ogres, Trolls, and Orcs. Like, aren't they going to change in intelligence level?
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:59 pm
So it looks like we are going with the general classifications of races and their cultures, that's fine with me as long as we put a bit of elemental flare into them. I personally like the regular cultures with a bit of personal touches.
As for Trolls being a branch from an Orc, that's more of what I was thinking over them being composed of substances... In the arena of intelligence levels... I don't think there will be a problem... well I don't exactly understand why you are thinking there isn't going to be a change in intelligence levels... You mind explaining what you mean to me?
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:08 pm
(O.o) If you judge a fish by its ability to climb, it'll live its whole life thinking it is dumb. -Albert Einstein What do I mean by this? That intelligence level differs in some areas. For example, while the dwarves know a lot about mining and technology, the elves know much about nature, elements, and magic. Does this mean the dwarves are dumb for not knowing magic? Or are the elves dumb for not knowing as much about technology? The trolls can act as stubborn minded as orcs, but their source of knowledge or base knowledge in their fields differ. While Orcs know about war, trolls(if they are the type that are made from elements and things in nature) know more about the wilderness or the element they arose out of. I'm not saying to make one race vastly more superior in intelligence over the over, but the ground understanding of certain things or abilities may be changed. A fish may not be able to climb a tree like a monkey, but it's able to swim through the water element which the chimpanzees are deprived of the knowledge of how to do so. You know what I mean, because all of them knows violence. It's just, how much brutality do they know and what methods do they know to go by? I bet the Nazis would have never thought of a Colombian Neck Tie as a way to strike fear.
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Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:55 pm
...Neo, I have to say, each time I read that I start to think I have a clue as to what you are saying, and then by the time I finish it, I'm back to being confounded. I have read what you have written many times, and each time, I think I'm getting farther from understanding.
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:22 am
I think I'm with BoredTears on this one...but I'm going to shoot at answering what you are saying... I think what you are saying is that 'fish' have an inherent knowledge of 'how to swim'...that they also have an inherent knowledge of 'water'.... That monkey's have an inherent knowledge of how to climb trees and what things to eat... THUS dwarves intently know of mining and smithing while elves know magic... IF that is what you were implying when you said Quote: aren't they going to change in intelligence level? Then, my answer is, a resounding no. I don't think any creature has an inherant knowledge of how they move, what they eat, or what material they exist in.... Each of the races will start off just as humans do...no knowledge of anything really...what do we know and understand as babies? We may understand things, but there is no way of expressing any such knowledge, we are simply dependent upon our mothers or fathers....Each race will, however, have an average intelligence range... Fish learn to swim because it comes so naturally to them, monkey's cling to their mothers because that is what comes naturally as well...The same will go with races...elves may have more of a natural inclination towards magic while dwarves have a natural inclination towards understanding and inventing....Is this answering anything or am I way off basis?
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:43 am
(O.o) The last part is what I was thinking. They aren't born with complete knowledge, but they are more likely by nature to do things because of the way they're shaped. Er...but I'll get off of that, because I'm likely to delve into things to the point where others may not understand. Yes. The fourth part was what I meant. When I said intelligence levels, though maybe not fully, I meant what comes simple to the minds of one race, but harder to the others. Like...ogres and orcs can have the same intelligence level, but ogres are more likely to know things about agriculture, and orcs may know more things about warfare. So...yeah. Oink.
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:27 pm
I'm thinking that things don't necessarily come easier to them rather than things being taught from an early age because it is such a part of their culture....There may be natural inclinations of some races to be more physical or magical thus their culture's use those advantages and teach them from an early age...lets say there is a set of twin elves that are separated at birth. One is raised in the Elvin society while another in a human society. The one who is part of the Elvin society will be taught from birth to pay attention to the magical vibes and in how to find strong channels of elemental magic while the one raised in a human society will be taught more in the physical arena even though elves are not naturally as physical as humans....
Or take two Orks who are raised in two different societies...one in it's home society and one in a human society... the one in the human society will be taught to control his temper and emotions, to use his natural strength in battle, to have manners and to develop himself through learning... The one in the ork society will be more barbaric with no control and letting them rule him. He will be taught that thinking and strategy in anything other than war is useless...
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:32 pm
I've been taught a valuable lesson. Lawls. (-m-) Why do I have the weirdest feeling that anything I suggest from now on is going to have some negative feedback?
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