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Feign Child

PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:52 pm


What I posted earlier were just ideas, but I've defined a few of them in a more concrete form. I may add more later. If you have a definition for a type of magic you would like to be used on the world feel free to post them. Also, we should decide on what magic should be called if we want it called something other than magic...

Divine Magic is bestowed by a being of power, namely the Gods. The power comes from a single God rather than any of the planes of existence. This magic is slightly unpredictable in its outcomes and limited to the will of the God one worships who provides them with their grace and power. If the God or Goddess believes the worshiper being graced by their power and divine magic is not worshiping them properly or that they are straying from the path, said god may withdraw their powers.


Elemental Magic is pulled from the energy of other planes of existence where each of the plainer elements exist. Each of the outer planes has a loose connection to the material plane where energy from that plane pulses or resonates through that loose yet close connection. A user must learn to detect that pulsation or energy and channel it into a useful form to be used on the material plane. Users may become skilled in detecting and channeling these loose or close connections between the planes where energy comes through stronger or learn to pull a portion of an elemental plane close enough for the user to create a spell; however, such skill in one elemental magic has detrimental effects upon the user.
Those who become too attuned with a single elemental plane take on strange features of said plane which makes living on the Material plane both painful and are shunned throughout most societies as they know such a person is power hungry and often times too aligned with another plane to be trusted. If a user continues to dabble in magic of said plane they have a real possibility of having to find a way to enter the other plane to simply survive.


Immaterial Magic comes from life and things which exist upon the material plane. Every living thing has a power which expels from it, both a life source and an energy from their emotions, deeds, and thoughts. Each energy has something of the same key as a musical piece, but half of the notes reflect life energy and half coming from the second energy. Both energies can be used to power specifically formulated spells giving different outcomes for the same spell depending upon the line of Immaterial Magic they are able to grasp and pull into the spell. The second line is easier to pull from and to generate. Outstanding or great deeds provide greater amounts of second line energy, those deeds which are nefarious or evil also generate the second line of energy. So the energy essentially has an alignment which will effect the spell being casted. Life energy may also be used either though a willing provider, who will become weak or die according the pull of the life energy which sustains them or through the outright capture of a persons energy. According to the life which was lived, the alignment they are classified by magic and the gods themselves, it will effect the spell being cased just as much.
 
PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:05 am


Demonic Magic comes from an alignment with the spirit of a powerful being. Unlike divine magic, demonic magic can be preformed with or without permission from the being. Also unlike divine magic one does not truly gain power from the being itself, only from the nature of that being. To preform demonic magic a person aligns themselves with their chosen being, then though channeling elemental magic to make a copy of the beings power. Though to properly copy the power of a being can be rather difficult, and most users end up with corrupt, weaker forms.
It is technically possible to preform demonic magic with any being as the target, however the "larger" the being, the harder it is to align with them. Large in this case referring to the mind and nature of the being, as one has to copy all of the being for it to work properly.
Another difficulty is the initial alignment, as one needs a connection with the being, or to observe them somehow. This is part of why demonic magic is typically used with demons, who's nature flows more freely then others.
Demonic magic is also the most likely to cause a corruption of the user. Both in the way that elemental magic does, as well as those using demonic magic become more like what they target losing themselves in the process.
Though demonic magic does not require the targeted being to approve, if one becomes to different from the target, they may not be able to preform demonic magic with that target.
There are also various advanced forms of demonic magic, such as drawing power directly from a being(with varying consequences) or copying artificial beings.

BoredTears


Feign Child

PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:18 pm


The above is a good foundation for types of magic, and all have been included in the presentation thingy I'm about to post. The basic idea for the foundation of magic is that there is a "PURE MAGIC" which is the foundation not only for magic but all life, the Gods included. From Pure Magic comes the Divine, the Demonic, and Mortal Life which is the triangle foundation upside down. Mortals have links to both the Divine and the Demonic and each spurn from pure magic.

The Elemental magic come from both the Divine and the Demonic as they are mirror images of the gods themselves. So all of the above are covered except Immaterial Magic. This magic comes from the Life magic which is at the bottom of the Demonic and Divine triangle.

Divine----------Demonic
................../
.............../
.........../
......./
LIFE

So the idea is that all magic comes from PURE MAGIC and the divine, demonic, and life all access that pure magic. So the idea of being able to access divine and demonic magic, by the allowance of the divine being or demonic being...it kinda works the same as that with life magic or immaterial magic.

Immaterial Magic is something of a combination for the Demonic and Divine magic only in mortal fashion. So mortals have a form of magic that works like the divine and demonic magic. Because they live and life comes from pure magic it has a signature and is magic and can is what mortals call immaterial magic.

I'm thinking that immaterial magic should be something that is influenced by other types of magic...ie how mortals who use too much of the elemental magic and become transformed. I'm thinking that is should also be a way to measure what alignment one is, how old ones soul is/if they are part of one of the spiritual races....I've got several ideas about what things it can be used for and such, but for simplicities sake, I'll leave it as that.

Anyhow, here's a link to some more thoughts and info on magic...
http://prezi.com/n5xd-c5_nscq/magic-on-the-world-of-mana/
PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:30 pm


... Ok... I understood some of that. Well I understood some of the thoughts thing. The rest of it I understand fairly easily. Also thanks for the peek into how your mind works.

And the thing about immaterial magic works for my ideas for the culture thing I was talking about when it came to the Naga, now I just need to start actually typing them up and turn thoughts into writing.

Also the things you talked about in that link make it look like I might be balancing Orcs well when it comes to magic as I don't want them so devoted to physical skills that they can't do magic.

BoredTears


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:22 am


surprised OMG! *bows* That explanation was beautiful!!!

I believe that Dream Walking is under Demonic and Divine. Demons can enter ones dream and cause wicked nightmares. A divine being can show and give you wisdom or tell you of a prophecy or destiny that only you can fulfill. In fact, it can also be seen as immaterial, because it's like astral projection. You send your 'spirit' or astral self out and go straight into another person's dreams. Of course, that's somewhat different to dream walking where you have to be asleep and walk your way through it. You're sleeping, get in a dream, make it lucid, then walk through the Dream world, go down the corridor(up the tree, down the well, etc) and find the person's dream, but I digress. It's cool.

Now, the one where a being can enter another's. Yeah. I agree completely with that. That actually goes with my idea of the Null Sphere of the Void and things of that nature. Though...now that I think of it, it's going to be a HEAVY item. I mean, it's a cataclysm cause if in the wrong hands. Nonetheless, it can just be prophecy, right?

(O.o) I think that the magic system, when it comes to the combination of different things, is a fairly simple one when a person knows what they're doing. If they have fire, and they need a smoke screen, they can burn something in the area, or hit a nearby lake or water source to make one. But, if you want specific objects, then we can use Augments, though they're like ruins. I seen this in Fable and whatnot, and thought it could be a good idea. If you use Earth and have a Water augment, then you can use mud. You can put them on weapons, or it could be wielded by the user, and it'll work that way.

We can also say there are books full of magical sorcery and things of that nature; they being filled with spells full of arcane and primal magic. Elemental magic, I believe, either is held within the person, or is ascertained by other means than a simple book.

If, by any chance, I'm being ambiguous or misunderstood by you, or whatever, then go ahead and ask. I can be a bit vague and whatnot when it comes to things like this.
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