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Lumanny the Space Jew

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:36 pm


DID YOU KNOW...
The Talmud says that you can break ANY commandment if it will save a life or prevent a serious detriment to health? Except for the Commandment not to kill.



Some examples...
---Circumcision is required for all Jewish males, but if circumcision might kill the baby or even just cause some serious health problems, the Circumcision is postponed or even canceled.

---Many of the Jews in hiding during the Holocaust had to abandon Kosher eating in order to survive.
But when you consider the situation, I think G-d probably understood where their priorities were.



Kind of makes Martydom more complicated, doesn't it?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:47 pm


Excellent point! biggrin

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:28 pm


Hm... That is interesting. But I wonder why you can't break the "do not kill" comandment. If you are being attacked you're not allowed to kill your attacker? Even if it means death for yourself???
PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:00 pm


Aakosir
Hm... That is interesting. But I wonder why you can't break the "do not kill" comandment. If you are being attacked you're not allowed to kill your attacker? Even if it means death for yourself???

I believe that you can kill, it it will save YOUR life. But not if it will only improve your health or quality of life.

Or someone else's life.
If you see someone killing someone else, you can't go and kill the first person because you can't decide which life is more valuable.
You know those hypothetical dilemmas like, "You can stop a train that will kill 3 people but you have to block it by pushing over a fat guy and he will die?" Well the answer acording to Jewish Law is that you can't break the commandment not to kill. So you can't kill the fat man. If you follow Jewish Law, the three people will die because you can't push the fat man to his death.

Get it?

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:41 pm


I believe that there is a big misunderstanding about the commandment not to kill... As I have been told from several different angles, it was not a commandment against killing, but against murder.

The unprovoked slaughter of your fellow human. That is what the command against killing is really about.

Self defense and protection of your kin and land are totally different than murdering someone.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:46 pm


This pickled vegetable...

This is news to me.

... could kick your a** !!

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