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Well everyone the second to last episode of kamen rider double is viewable on youtube. Now i wont spoil it but I do wish to discuss the episode, and series in its entirety. What do you think of it? Was this series amazing despite earlier critizism about the costume? Lets hear it people.

*bangs you on the head with a hammer* No spoilers...but other than that last bit i agree with ya. It was a great series and the characters were well thought out...i realy like santa-chan hehe

Yes i knew about that...but what if others didnt? some people may watch the show but dont keep up with the news...a few friends of mine are like that actualy.

What? Information I didn't know?! Spoiler?!?! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!

In truth, that was something I expected given how the plots been going. I just hate to hear that it's being given the Decade treatment. Hopefully they handle it better, but I'm not going to get overly excited over it.


I won't go too into it but I didn't like a good chunk of Double myself. It was enjoyable at parts in any case and that's all you can ask of a series now a days. Just wish parts of it weren't highly predictable or filled with things that didn't help the series.

Its difficult not to be. For a long time I'd be excited to see the next episode of Kamen Rider. Enough so that I would check each weekend on youtube to see the fight without subtitles, then couldn't wait to have it put into context with the subtitled version. I don't think I did that once with Double... I still enjoyed the series somewhat, but it didn't pull me in with creativity or characters like Kabuto, Den-O, Kiva and Decade did.

I'm not comparing Kamen Rider to most kid entertainment shows. I compare it with itself, with all the shows I've seen. I don't view it as a direct kids show either, as many Kamen Rider series should be able to draw in the adults and actually do so. I might be an adult, as is my dad and many people I know who I got into Kamen Rider. It should say something though if many of them people couldn't get past the first few episodes.

The cast of Double was one thing that kind of dragged it down. Shotaro was good and Philip grew on me. The rest detracted to me. Akiko is a big reason I dislike double as they used her way too much and I didn't find humor in her character. The whole Sonozaki family was handled poorly overall. Miku could have had more to do with stuff but was pushed off till the end. Ryubee could have been a better bad guy but seemed to almost want to lose at times. Saeko's character wasn't bad, but she quickly becomes lame the further the series went on to me to where I didn't care about the character but that cool Nazca memory. Wakana was just annoying, needing to be upset over everything. When we see her character begin to actually come through with the Phillip stuff, she turns around and becomes a very boring bad guy and knocks the oomph out of the series a bit to me.
Ryu was interesting at first but I felt his development was very forced at times and the character became as useful as a lamp post too often.
Shroud was way too predictable.
The other characters I can see why they were setup, but many of them were overused at times and the ways they kept having them not noticed Shotaro and Phillip being Double was nearly on par with the glasses Clark Kent uses.

The forms didn't feel utilized like they could have been with many finishers seeming out of place and rushed out to have something (and I don't think we even had every combination have it despite them doing this). The memory gadget insect robot things didn't get used as much as they could have too. I can't remember another gimmick that had potential but was so under used overall in Kamen Rider. Overall I just didn't feel impressed with how Double fought. The first few episodes hinted to potential but then it felt boring after a while, like the flavor of soda after its mostly gone and the ice has melted quite a bit so its mostly water. Fang was a good way to mix it up, but after it's hype it didn't feel like it had any advantage other than Philip used it as a way to fight.

Accel is... not a kamen rider to me. The original form is more metal hero and looked really off compared to how double is. Trial form is the same thing to me, not really a Kamen Rider but more a metal hero or something of it's own which detracts to me. I liked some aspects of what he did and could do but again, I felt it not really a kamen rider much less one that fits right with Double's universe.

The biggest thing that drained this series to me though was probably the pacing and the creative style. I understand where a biweekly plot can be good, it worked well in series like Den-O. Here though it felt too forced too often. Many of the plots being so generic that they used a press machine to make sure they could squeeze in enough stuff for a two-episode story without doing too much actual story at any given time. Most anything that did involve the actual plot ended up feeling less like getting a shot at the doctors.
One thing with the episodes is the detective motif. I was excited for it. I'm not much of a person who can easily solve things, but I enjoy watching good stories with people who do. This series however did not deliver it. While I liked it as a way to drive the story, it didn't feel like a detective show. I shouldn't be able to know the culprit within the first few moments. I know I'm an adult versus a kid, but again I think a good Kamen Rider can stand up for both, and an intelligent kid probably wouldn't want to sit through a mystery where they semi underline who the bad guy is within the first few moments.

Its like Unnatural History on Cartoon Network, the show isn't bad but the character made to be the comic relief (i.e. stupid and annoying) ruins it whenever they get the chance to allow him to do so and the predictable bad guys can ruin the pacing and the interest. Yet, the main character is likable enough that I still watch it like I kept up with double.

If my standards are too high, oh well. I still watched it and enjoyed it at points like I said. It just isn't on par with many of the other Kamen Rider I've seen, ones which always jolt me with creativity when watching. It should say something good for it though, considering I couldn't even force myself to finish Blade or Ryuki the first time watching them and I still can't get past episode 2 of Goseiger gonk

Basically this. 3nodding

For me, any show is successful as long as it does what its supposed to. If its entertainment, it should entertain. If its a mystery, it should keep you guessing until the last minute. If its shoot 'em up, then there shouldn't been any meshy stuff.

Any show would lose its value for me and quit being watchable if I wanted everything to be perfect or the way I wanted them.

Personally, Double had great drama, story telling, and character development, if there were a few bad apples there, oh well.

I didn't overlook a single written word by you. I (and Saicosis) just have a DIFFERENT opinion then yours. Your overreacting.

Okay then, what did you think its main theme was? You keep saying that it didn't have a detective theme, yet you never stated what theme you thought it had.

Also, what part of plot WAS forced?