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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:54 am


We all know what materialism is and I for a fact am very materialistic... I'm dumb and asian, how does that work? xD Anyway recently I was looking at new released K-Pop girl band GP Basic whom only have girls who aren't even in high school! they are aged from 11 to 15. I was quite surprised to see such a young girl band. I mean before them was SNSD (Girl Generation)'s Younha who was 17 when she joined the girl band. I'm talking superficiality as in the looks, the glamour and what you think of yourself compared to others.

I recently heard about girl getting skinny jeans or skinny jeans being available to 2 year old kids.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:03 pm


If I were to bring a child into this world and raise it, or if I were to adopt and take on that responsibility I would do my utmost to free them from the idea that they need physical objects or certain looks in order to be happy. I've never been materialistic in fashion, I figure if it fits, it's comfortable and it lasts then I'm good. Though I have discovered that I do seek out physical objects as a form of comfort, so I am materialistic in that sense. I'm currently trying to break that habit. I hope to one day be able to pack my entire life into my vehicle. Right now I can't do that.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:39 am


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If I were to bring a child into this world and raise it, or if I were to adopt and take on that responsibility I would do my utmost to free them from the idea that they need physical objects or certain looks in order to be happy. I've never been materialistic in fashion, I figure if it fits, it's comfortable and it lasts then I'm good. Though I have discovered that I do seek out physical objects as a form of comfort, so I am materialistic in that sense. I'm currently trying to break that habit. I hope to one day be able to pack my entire life into my vehicle. Right now I can't do that.


definatly agree with you there.

Humans do tend to get attached to having random things. Its taken me alot of will power not to buy things sometimes. Just for the momentary comfort. Though i generally feel ashamed about making such purchases.

As far as those skinny jeans for 2 year olds. My niece is 2 and there is no way I would let her mother dress her that way. Especially at that age that just is wrong. So i guess no id let my kids be them whatever flaws they may or may not have.

Also I dont think your dumb. I dont think being materialistic is connected to how smart a person is.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:44 am


Agreed~ 2 Year olds being fashion examples... Wow that is over the top. But materialism is something that people should really change over time... I guess its called popular culture where you look at something in that time that was popular to have. Like in the 90s; tazos and trading cards. Even look at the way people dressed over time as well... So I guess materialism is more evident in the adults and the teenagers that are being shown these things. I mean home boys or homies and all those old school groups lurk around but they aren't as prominent as they were when they were hugely popular x.x"

So materialism changes but now I think materialism has stopped changed (in a sense) that people are now hoping to aim it at young children...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:14 am


Almost every example that you bring up is of superficiality. These things are not the same... At all. If you want to talk about materialism then by all means, do it, but you haven't, yet.
I detest superficiality but I do, however, like things. I like having things, looking at things, knowing that things are mine, associating memories and feelings with things, and collecting them. I want to enjoy the things that are mine and covet those which are not. I enjoy seeing my sword collection shine and hearing the whisper of my coat tails blowing in the harsh Chicago winds.
You might think that being financially destitute might break me of this longing, but I can assure you that it only sharpens and magnifies it.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:07 pm


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Pardon my french but, ******** that!
as long as their not wearing belly shirts with really deep v-necks and daisy dukes, I do not care what my kids wear.

I don't care if my little girl wants to wear hoodies and tripp pants. I don't care if my son wants to wear extra tight skinny jeans and v-necks.
I'm not going to try to make my kids dress in any certain way and I want them to be free of the superficial burden.

Superficial is dressing or acting like something your not. for example, dressing and acting like everyone else to be popular.
I like to call them robots. their programmed just like everyone else and don't act like they have any personality.

I would not force my kids to wear anything they don't want to. And unless their being disrespectful, I probably wouldn't try to force a certain personality on them.



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:54 pm


Yeah but doesn't superficiality start from materialism or should it be the other way around? If you know what I mean.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:16 pm


I am not very materialistic. I like things but I also have no issues having my things destroyed. My life will not end if my things get destroyed. The memories associated with those items is what matters.

I wear a mask in public. We all do. It is a way to protect ourselves from eachother. I still march to the beat of my own drum. Those others that are Sheep and follow the herd bother me. They live in a tiny world full of tiny minded people. I say break out of the box you veiw your world in and embrace free will. Do something because you truly want to.

This is worse in teenage girls. Most will do anything to be popular. Even sleep with some guy just to get a little bit of spotlight. Many times, the girl isn't ready or even attracted to that guy. They just do it to gain power and influence over others.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:07 pm


It corrupts the very nature of the person.... Trying to gain it can destroy them.... I don't know, my high school in Sydney was a very prominent one, now this new hype about girls having sex before marriage and getting it on with many seems to overcome the girls at my old high school. We never really talked about such issues and if it did happen to someone it'd be a big big deal... But now it's just another 'Meh' situation.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:13 pm


Grand Pianist
It corrupts the very nature of the person.... Trying to gain it can destroy them.... I don't know, my high school in Sydney was a very prominent one, now this new hype about girls having sex before marriage and getting it on with many seems to overcome the girls at my old high school. We never really talked about such issues and if it did happen to someone it'd be a big big deal... But now it's just another 'Meh' situation.
Same here. I am just against those that do so just to gain social status.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:34 am


Grand Pianist
Yeah but doesn't superficiality start from materialism or should it be the other way around? If you know what I mean.

They aren't really related at all, by necessity.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:56 am


Okay okay x.x" Well then I guess it really depends on the person to either follow or be themselves...

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:28 pm


I also don't think materialism and superficiality are necessarily related. I am materialistic, I like my things, but I am not very superficial at all. As far as letting my children dress in a manner that would make them appear superficial, they can dress however they want within reason. As long as they aren't wearing anything offensive they can look as superficial as they want. However, considering both of my kids are gigantic nerds I don't see them wearing anything other than jeans and video game related t-shirts. ^^;
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