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Insomnesiac
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:58 am


So if any of you guys have seen the news lately, Google and Verizon are reaching a deal where that could lead to some content being preferred over others. Pretty much leading to the eventual end of net neutrality. And if you haven't here are a couple of links with the story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38571113/ns/technology_and_science-the_new_york_times
http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/10/08/05/google-verizon-deal-end-internet-we-know-it

Anyway the point of this thread is to say there is a petition to support Net Neutrality. I haven't been the type to say "hay sign this petition =D" in the past, but since this is something that pretty much could affect how we all use the internet it seems like a big deal.

Check it out and if you want to sign, great, if not at least let others know about it. http://www.savetheinternet.com/

Also this is probably the only time I've bugged you guys about a cause, ninja so discuss. biggrin
PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:26 pm


The New York Times is mistaken.

Gizmodo follows the reports:
http://gizmodo.com/5605310/google-just-killed-net-neutrality

Read the updates at the end.

From reading through their reports, it appears that Google and Verizon have simply been working through the FCC-led negotiations that have been ongoing since courts struck down the FCC's attempts to regulate Comcast.

From what I can tell, the most that Google and Verizon have agreed to is this:
1. Wired internet(read: broadband) is to be net neutral...a strong concession on the part of Verizon, given that's exactly the power Comcast was fighting to keep.
2. Mobile internet(specifically mobile devices like phones, not wifi) can be regulated and Google will not object.

The second point is the point of alarm, but I'm not sure it's even an issue:

1. Google's agreement with Verizon appears to be tied to the Droid, not to its internet service. That sounds like Google saying "well, whatever you do with your mobile internet, we're not going to stop building Droids for you."

2. Mobile internet is all about bandwidth. Phone companies have ALWAYS had control over how their bandwidth is used. Anyone with a Cricket phone during an disaster could tell you that. No one stops them because it's an unfortunate fact of the industry: there is an inherent limit on how much stuff you can funnel through the lines. 3G and 4G are great, but they're still expensive and limited.
If Verizon wants to provide 4G services to compete with Sprint, it's gotta cost them. Compensating by charging companies to benefit more from the faster service has two benefits:
a. More funding for the more expensive system.
b. Less freeloading. Any economist can tell you that a free resource is a scarce resource. If you put a price on faster delivery, the industry regulates itself. If Verizon did not charge for their faster services, they may soon find their bandwidth entirely exhausted.

3. There has been no indication that Verizon actually intends to control the content that flows through their phones, simply that they intend to preserve the ability to do so.

I suggest we keep cool heads and wait until we have more information. Remember: when dealing with corporations, voting with your pocketbook is more potent than anything else you can do.

Alpha the White


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:19 pm


Mobile internet being regulated is a good thing. The internet is already built on very shaky architecture.

NYT is slipping lately, this isn't the first story they've gotten totally wrong in recent history~
PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:50 pm


I'd rather news outlets exaggerating this story than companies still wanting to try to control what pages will load faster than others, or control internet content in general.

Either way, just wanted to share for anyone that cared.

At best its a reminder to the FCC that a good number of people still support net neutrality.

Insomnesiac
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