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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:53 pm


Not sure where this thread would go, so any mods/admins please move where you see fit. mrgreen

With that said, Here's a brief segment on VIP tuning, all thrown into one giant post instead of minis, because I simply prefer typing in paragraphs. 3nodding

So let's start.

First, What is Bippu?

Bippu is NOTHING. There is no such word in Japanese that is BIPPU. It was coined because that's how Japanese people pronounce "VIP" instead of saying it the american way as "VEE EYE PEE", it's sounded phonetically as "VEE POO", but since there's no V sound in Jp just like there is no L, the V is a B and L is a R. Hence "Bippu". However, it does NOT define the actual STYLE.

but since every person insisting they know about VIP style claims "bippu", it just flat out stuck.

In the US, it's somewhat accepted. In Japan, we laugh at our mistake being accepted. good sportsmanship ftw. :'D

Next up, what exactly MAKES a car VIP?

As many of you may know, VIP started out with Yakuza needing a way to travel without drawing insane amounts of attention like in euro vehicles like benzes and beamers. Spotting those cars automatically means 'yakuza' or 'high roller', either way, attracting a LOT of unwanted attention.
they wanted to travel around as covertly as possible without losing much of the luxurious amenities, such as Jaguar's rear tables hooked up to the back of the front seats, or other companies' air suspensions integrated into the cars.

That's basically how the black luxury curtains, custom wood or leather tables, mother-of-pearl dashclocks, reupholstered interior seats, and various seat cushions and japanese-culture garnishes came into play.

So where did the subtle bodykits, insanely lowered stance, sometimes near-double-digit-negative-camber, and all these other goodies come into play?

That's more or less due to the Bosozoku and Chinpira, basically street thugs, who were tired of getting busted by cops for tuning their heavily built machines with loud paintjobs and exhausts to match. They wanted to still race and modify their vehicles, but to do so in a way they'd still look like a salaryman than a drifter or street racer.

Now, for those thinking their 2-door coupes or their k-cars are VIP: That will NEVER be the case.

This is where I go into the difference between being VIP/VIPstyle versus VIP-INSPIRED.

Now, since i'm still a n00b here, allow me to instead post a mag article that interviewed the head of Junction Produce, one of the ORIGINAL car modification companies that catered solely to the expansion of VIP:

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Standing in the middle of a convention hall outside of Philadelphia, Takahiro Taketomi looks a bit like Bogey. His eyes are stern and focused and ringed by the charcoal hue of lost sleep. His short black hair is neat and smoothed and shines. He doesn’t smile. In fact, he speaks with a grimace and like he is always about to light a cigarette.

Taketomi is one of the self-proclaimed founders of VIP style, the next great Japanese micro-trend to surface in America. “Bippu style,” as it is colorfully known in Japan, starts with a high-power luxury sedan. The car is slammed on ultra-thin tires and trimmed with boxy body kits. At first glance, a VIP style car might look like any tuner sedan on its way to Hot Import Nights, but there are specific details that set it apart.

A VIP style car might have a billet grille or metallic trim lines or polished wood inside. Window curtains are big. So are aftermarket emblems and hood ornaments. The look is a bit like Scarface Goes to Japan. And legend has it VIP style has roots in the yakuza (organized crime in Japan). True or not, Taketomi makes a strong case on its behalf.

Through a translator, Taketomi tells us he built his first VIP style car, a Nissan Cedric, in 1993. Three years later he founded Junction Produce, which specializes in products for VIP style cars. Today it is one of the best-known marques in VIP tuning and has its brand on everything from body kits to wheels to cuff links and bracelets. Junction Produce is also the first company of its kind to make a big push into the United States.

According to Taketomi, true VIP style tuning is limited to only 10 Nissan and Toyota models: Nissan President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric and Fuga; Toyota Celsior, Century, Aristo, Crown and Majesta. That’s it. Since most of those models come with powerful turbocharged engines in Japan, VIP style cars are rarely tuned for performance. More important is that they’re slammed as low as they can go on the widest wheels possible. Most of the other tuning parts somehow assist in this goal.

VIP stylers use air suspensions to raise their cars to install the wheels and tires and then lower the car on top. Tires are stretched beyond their limits to fit on oversized wheels. Extreme offsets are used so the wheel lips kiss the fenders. And it’s not unusual to see 245/30R tires on 19x10.5-inch wheels—the tuning equivalent of Fat Albert wearing the shorts of his enunciation-challenged friend Mushmouth.

Kelvin Tohar of Falken Tires, which is helping to spread the word in America, says, “It’s not the safest thing to do and Falken doesn’t recommend you do it for daily driving, but it’s the style.” Falken has partnered with Junction Produce to hawk its line of FR452 tires. In exchange Falken promotes Junction Produce at tuner shows and SEMA events, like the International Auto Salon, where we met Taketomi.

Tohar, who has his own VIP style Lexus GS 300 that he calls by its Japanese moniker Aristo, tells me elegance is the underlying statement. “At car shows, most [owners] won’t raise their hoods because it disrupts the flow of the car,” he says. “Even the Junction Produce exhaust is more of an aesthetic.”

Elegance is the word that’s repeated like a mantra by VIP style owners and companies. But it’s a strange sort of elegance. VIP style companies like Junction Produce, Wald and Auto Couture have logos that look vaguely Oxford Street but are more a Japanese version of mafia royalty, without any ironic subtext, like you’d imagine the parts delivered in purple velvet bags, à la Crown Royal.

And the parts aren’t cheap. Outfitting a car VIP style can run up to $20,000 and beyond. But as Tony Montana says in Scarface, “You gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.”


There are now several cars that're being given bodykits to accomodate to the VIP-inspired look, meaning a lowered-stance yet near-stock bodykit/widebody.

some of the cars receiving this treatment are: G35/350Z/G37/SC430/SC300/300ZX Z32/GTR/FD3S/S13/etc. However, they're more considered the 'sports' series, and have recently been considered solely 'vip inspired' or more specifically 'Lux'/'Luxe' styled. K-cars and Minivans have their own 'vanning' scene and amazingly, k-cars are being more adopted into vip-inspired category than anything else.

In conclusion (for those too lazy to read above), vip can be summarized into these points:

1. Vip is limited to only 10 Japanese sedans
2. the current 'bippu' is a mashing of yakuza wanting to be more discrete and street racers who wanted a more 'sleeper' vehicle
3. rims, a tsuna knot with fusa knot, a random bodykit, and black/white/silver paint does NOT make you VIP. AT ALL.
4. vip-inspired sports sedans or sportscars are exactly that. INSPIRED.
5. There's a budget vip platform car for everyone.
Think that there isn't one that fits your budget?

$1,000-$4,000 range:
1990-1996 Q45
1990-1994 LS400

$4,000-$7,000 range:
1997-1998 Q45
1993-1997 GS300
1995-1997 LS400

$8,000-$10,000 range:
1999-2001 Q45
1998-2000 GS300/400
1998-2000 LS400

$11,000-$20,000 range:
2002-2003 Q45
2001-2003 LS430
2001-2005 GS300/430
2003-2004 M45

However, don't forget that you're taking a car that no matter how old, used to be insanely expensive when it was new, and it is still probably pretty old. Therefore, oem replacement parts WILL be expensive.
Also, most tastefully done and vip-car-show worthy interiors have a good $5,000+ invested in them. Just interior. Add in aggressive offset rims, tires, authentic vip-company bodykits, and a quality sound system, and you've multiplied that number by four or five times.

Now that I've said all that, let's take a look at some cars on the next post. mrgreen
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:56 pm


HERE ARE PIX OF ACTUAL VIP CARS. ENJOY. mrgreen

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:00 pm


AND NOW FOR SOME VIP-INSPIRED CARS DONE RIGHT heart

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More pix to come. Including interior shots for both VIP and VIP-INSP platforms. mrgreen
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:35 pm


This thread is a total 56k trap. rofl

Anyways, very insightful. Personally, I still don't like it... Jeez, I'd like to find the owner of that 350Z and give him a piece of my mind.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:51 pm


Awesome thread. Good job man. Also, by the way, I know CamberSC personally, he is a good friend of mine. That car is named scweet1. It was an awesome car, sadly, it now sits on stands in his backyard with no engine. lol. Also, CamberSC aka milt, was not going VIP with scweet1. He is into the hellaflush scene. And nothing about scweet1 was meant to be VIP inspired.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:46 am


Here is another thing that a lot of people don't know, that I thought I would throw in there.

Most people wonder what is up with the Fusa/Tsuna knot and it's meaning behind it.

The fusa knot originated in a festival called "Danjiri". The knot itself was used as a symbol of good luck, and more specifically was relative to the Buddhist mystic knot which symbolized the eternal cycle.

The tsuna was placed on Danjiri carts at the entrances of temples and were a symbol for warding off evil spirits and show as a sacred space.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:46 am


Now, I have to say right here that such suspension modifications can be dangerous at high speeds. I've been watching this fellow with a 350Z with offset and camber just like THAT, and he's basically being thrown around by the road due to lack of travel.

Thrown around, as in all over the place, at only 100km/h. NO wheel movement that I can see, hell my shitbox Magna seems to hold the road better.

So, before you commit to the "VIP style," please consider what you may be doing to your handling.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:05 am


Joey Crash
Now, I have to say right here that such suspension modifications can be dangerous at high speeds. I've been watching this fellow with a 350Z with offset and camber just like THAT, and he's basically being thrown around by the road due to lack of travel.

Thrown around, as in all over the place, at only 100km/h. NO wheel movement that I can see, hell my shitbox Magna seems to hold the road better.

So, before you commit to the "VIP style," please consider what you may be doing to your handling.


Well in a lot of circles the philosophy tied to VIP style is "low n slow". It isn't meant to be a street machine that handles and goes fast really. Yes mild speed (ie turbo charging) is used, but it is not supposed to be a track car.Also, that is why you get air bags so you can raise the car during higher speed driving to eliminate some of the camber. To drive on heavily cambered slammed cars on the freeway is lunacy.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:47 am


While I cant say that I'd have a car styled like VIP / Bippu but I can appreciate that they look pretty cool...Especially the R33/R34 at the bottom of your last post (It is a Skyline isnt it?)
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:28 am


Thanks for the 101.. I have a much better idea of what Bippu is.^^ It's an interesting style and I love learning about Japanese history and culture so you've been a big help.^^

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:37 pm


Wait where's the RB series Skyline in this thread? I only see V series chassis.

In any case- I wish to one day bring one of these in so people at the school my children attend can know their parents are gangster! lol
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:42 pm


s i x s p e e d
This thread is a total 56k trap. rofl

Anyways, very insightful. Personally, I still don't like it... Jeez, I'd like to find the owner of that 350Z and give him a piece of my mind.


Very much so. mrgreen As for the 350Z, everyone has different styles.

I'm a fan of having rims flush with the body, but not 'hellaflush'. Also, I simply hate negative camber. That's the one part of VIPstyle that I strongly am against, lol. If you're a yakuza, you went from driving a car that said "oh sh!t he's mafia!" to "oh sh!t his supension is held on by zipties!!!"

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Awesome thread. Good job man. Also, by the way, I know CamberSC personally, he is a good friend of mine. That car is named scweet1. And nothing about scweet1 was meant to be VIP inspired.


Nice! as for nothing meant to be vip inspired, he's probably a victim of his style getting caught in a trend with new name, lol. Still, if it's good enough to be promoted by the guys on VSC, I'm sure he's doing great anyway. biggrin

l True Dragon l
Here is another thing that a lot of people don't know, that I thought I would throw in there.

Most people wonder what is up with the Fusa/Tsuna knot and it's meaning behind it....


Yup. very true. Both buddhist and shinto religions use the Tsuna and Kiku Fusa knots. When I first saw the style when I was in Kyoto and came back to the states and saw it already emulated, I seriously thought "FINALLY SOMETHING OTHER THAN A ROSARY!!!" lol.

Joey Crash
Now, I have to say right here that such suspension modifications can be dangerous at high speeds.

So, before you commit to the "VIP style," please consider what you may be doing to your handling.


As dragon stated in his reply to you, VIP is to be taken more of a lowrider perspective of things (though I hate saying it because I find all lowriders and dub cars tacky and tasteless).
It's meant to be driven low, slow, and stylish. Anyone thinking they can make a 'vip drift car' or 'vip styled racecar' is in for a lot of unpleasant maintenance costs.

Mendokuse92
While I cant say that I'd have a car styled like VIP / Bippu but I can appreciate that they look pretty cool...Especially the R33/R34 at the bottom of your last post (It is a Skyline isnt it?)


...care to copy/paste the pic you're referring to? I have yet to put up any pic of an R33/R34. The very bottom of the last posts with inspired cars is supposed to be a Soarer, or perhaps you mean the blue G35/GT350?

The Lost Desperado
Thanks for the 101.. I have a much better idea of what Bippu is.^^ It's an interesting style and I love learning about Japanese history and culture so you've been a big help.^^


Thank you for keeping an open mind and keeping up the desire to learn about the culture. ...now if only the Japanese back home would follow that mindset as well... xd

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Wait where's the RB series Skyline in this thread? I only see V series chassis.

In any case- I wish to one day bring one of these in so people at the school my children attend can know their parents are gangster! lol
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Ah, yes the RA series Odysseys. There's one in cali rolling around with a hardwood floor. mrgreen

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 3:04 pm


I am pretty sure I have seen that oddessy. A white one, yea?

Yea, He is doing something... But, he would just get all pissy when someone would call his car VIP style lol. But, As I said, the car is on jackstands in his backyard now collecting dust with no engine.

And yea, I am sure he is talking about the infinity..... people here tend to try and call their infinity skylines.... it's atrocious to say the least, though it is mainly persians and armenians who do it.

And LOL @ rosary
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:29 pm


The Japanese don't bother to learn about their own history?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:37 pm


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The Japanese don't bother to learn about their own history?


Off the top of your head do you know why we use fireworks on the fourth of july, or who the 4th president of the USA was?
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