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 Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:30 am
I was studying about a topic called orisha.When i was studying it orisha is a type of spirit that supposably that every one in the world have inside there body.One of types of orisha is called Yemeya.Yemeya is a type of spirit that if you want something they'll make it happen but you have to pay them back a offer thats worth same.
For example a myth about a famous blues musician named Robert Johnson.He was the worst player off them all in his town in Mississipi.So one night he went to Crossroad in Mississipi.Where he saw the devil.The devil ask him what did he want.He said i want to be the best blues player ever.The devil said ok and stab Robert in his hand with a fountain pen.Then Robert signed the contract with the devil.Next morning Robert Johnson was the best blues player in Mississipi.Year later he became famous.
In my research the spirit Yemeya has same power as the devil.But also it has bad cause Robert Johnson didnt keep up his part with the devil so 6-7 years later he died.
Also if you dont know what crossroad here you go.
The crossroad look like a regular cross in picture.In Mississipi its a dirty road that look like a cross.Cross road suppose mean something in African Coulture.
Right part cross mean:Birth
Top part mean:Adalescent as in kids or teen
Left part mean biggrin eath
Bottom mean:After Life or Ancestory
Also the crossroad go in cyle so is it possibe that after we died we can come back to life ?
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:19 am
Signing a contract,deals with satan,=o,oh how satan loves to give you everything you want in this world,but i am willing to bet,the contract,had to do with his life,and maybe even his soul.
if i didn't know so much stuff now days,i would be a satanist,but im a christian,not the main stream -_-...
but anyway spiritual normally leads to Devil demons satan.
wiccans satanist,can tell you all about spirits.
just be wise,for they may seem nice,but they can be back stabbers,like a snake,they can be loveble,but they can still turn on you.
anyway i hope i was helpful o___o lol
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 6:27 pm
ShadowAlexis Signing a contract,deals with satan,=o,oh how satan loves to give you everything you want in this world,but i am willing to bet,the contract,had to do with his life,and maybe even his soul. if i didn't know so much stuff now days,i would be a satanist,but im a christian,not the main stream -_-... but anyway spiritual normally leads to Devil demons satan. wiccans satanist,can tell you all about spirits. just be wise,for they may seem nice,but they can be back stabbers,like a snake,they can be loveble,but they can still turn on you. anyway i hope i was helpful o___o lol hate to break it to you, but Wicca has nothing to do with Satan. Satan, if you do enough research is a Jewish/Christian/Islamic diety. The only reason people tie it to paganism is because Christian Inquisitors would torture pagans until they confessed. for example, if you were tortured, you'd probably confess to something that wasn't true as well. Also, a large number of my friends happen to be Pagan, and I can tell you that absolutely none of them worship "the devil".
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:47 am
jedinightwing ShadowAlexis Signing a contract,deals with satan,=o,oh how satan loves to give you everything you want in this world,but i am willing to bet,the contract,had to do with his life,and maybe even his soul. if i didn't know so much stuff now days,i would be a satanist,but im a christian,not the main stream -_-... but anyway spiritual normally leads to Devil demons satan. wiccans satanist,can tell you all about spirits. just be wise,for they may seem nice,but they can be back stabbers,like a snake,they can be loveble,but they can still turn on you. anyway i hope i was helpful o___o lol hate to break it to you, but Wicca has nothing to do with Satan. Satan, if you do enough research is a Jewish/Christian/Islamic diety. The only reason people tie it to paganism is because Christian Inquisitors would torture pagans until they confessed. for example, if you were tortured, you'd probably confess to something that wasn't true as well. Also, a large number of my friends happen to be Pagan, and I can tell you that absolutely none of them worship "the devil". before you go off saying s**t lol,read what i just said,i said wiccans can tell you about spirts =/ which they can,i didn't say the worship satan,so before you go off on me,think before you put it down. and due to my beliefs. all the things they ask or pray or whatever is all fallen angels demons,gods as some would say,which is from Satan and his angels,you would be surprised on just how much the bible speaks,read the whole thing,and learn very little lol. anyone can have power,Hell God gave moses power, surprised God wants to give you it,but he won't if your worshiping the false gods. but anyway its due to my beilefs,but anyway before assuming,read think about it lol,i said they can tell you about spirits,not tell you,oh we worship satan =/ lol
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:50 am
jedinightwing ShadowAlexis Signing a contract,deals with satan,=o,oh how satan loves to give you everything you want in this world,but i am willing to bet,the contract,had to do with his life,and maybe even his soul. if i didn't know so much stuff now days,i would be a satanist,but im a christian,not the main stream -_-... but anyway spiritual normally leads to Devil demons satan. wiccans satanist,can tell you all about spirits. just be wise,for they may seem nice,but they can be back stabbers,like a snake,they can be loveble,but they can still turn on you. anyway i hope i was helpful o___o lol hate to break it to you, but Wicca has nothing to do with Satan. Satan, if you do enough research is a Jewish/Christian/Islamic diety. The only reason people tie it to paganism is because Christian Inquisitors would torture pagans until they confessed. for example, if you were tortured, you'd probably confess to something that wasn't true as well. Also, a large number of my friends happen to be Pagan, and I can tell you that absolutely none of them worship "the devil". Also don't tell me to do research lol,wiccans wicca's are witchs..which it says to stay away from =/,that goes for the jews islams christians,and others,not just the christians,and the christians at a certain time,had a bad point,and most christians don't realize,they are a neon pagan religion,which makes it a false religon,the real christians,aren't around as much anymore. but anyway,i know my history
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:19 pm
ShadowAlexis jedinightwing ShadowAlexis Signing a contract,deals with satan,=o,oh how satan loves to give you everything you want in this world,but i am willing to bet,the contract,had to do with his life,and maybe even his soul. if i didn't know so much stuff now days,i would be a satanist,but im a christian,not the main stream -_-... but anyway spiritual normally leads to Devil demons satan. wiccans satanist,can tell you all about spirits. just be wise,for they may seem nice,but they can be back stabbers,like a snake,they can be loveble,but they can still turn on you. anyway i hope i was helpful o___o lol hate to break it to you, but Wicca has nothing to do with Satan. Satan, if you do enough research is a Jewish/Christian/Islamic diety. The only reason people tie it to paganism is because Christian Inquisitors would torture pagans until they confessed. for example, if you were tortured, you'd probably confess to something that wasn't true as well. Also, a large number of my friends happen to be Pagan, and I can tell you that absolutely none of them worship "the devil". Also don't tell me to do research lol,wiccans wicca's are witchs..which it says to stay away from =/,that goes for the jews islams christians,and others,not just the christians,and the christians at a certain time,had a bad point,and most christians don't realize,they are a neon pagan religion,which makes it a false religon,the real christians,aren't around as much anymore. but anyway,i know my history If you knew history you would know that the passage that denounces witches in the King James Version of the Bible is actually a mistranslation because King James happened to be afraid of witches. Where does it say that the Jews and Muslims should stay away from witches. A lot of Jewish mysticism borders on what might be considered witchcraft itself. Also, what about the Keys of Solomon?
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:59 pm
Obscurus ShadowAlexis jedinightwing ShadowAlexis Signing a contract,deals with satan,=o,oh how satan loves to give you everything you want in this world,but i am willing to bet,the contract,had to do with his life,and maybe even his soul. if i didn't know so much stuff now days,i would be a satanist,but im a christian,not the main stream -_-... but anyway spiritual normally leads to Devil demons satan. wiccans satanist,can tell you all about spirits. just be wise,for they may seem nice,but they can be back stabbers,like a snake,they can be loveble,but they can still turn on you. anyway i hope i was helpful o___o lol hate to break it to you, but Wicca has nothing to do with Satan. Satan, if you do enough research is a Jewish/Christian/Islamic diety. The only reason people tie it to paganism is because Christian Inquisitors would torture pagans until they confessed. for example, if you were tortured, you'd probably confess to something that wasn't true as well. Also, a large number of my friends happen to be Pagan, and I can tell you that absolutely none of them worship "the devil". Also don't tell me to do research lol,wiccans wicca's are witchs..which it says to stay away from =/,that goes for the jews islams christians,and others,not just the christians,and the christians at a certain time,had a bad point,and most christians don't realize,they are a neon pagan religion,which makes it a false religon,the real christians,aren't around as much anymore. but anyway,i know my history If you knew history you would know that the passage that denounces witches in the King James Version of the Bible is actually a mistranslation because King James happened to be afraid of witches. Where does it say that the Jews and Muslims should stay away from witches. A lot of Jewish mysticism borders on what might be considered witchcraft itself. Also, what about the Keys of Solomon? One i don't like the king james verison,and 2 its in the bible. and the keys of solomon were from God,not satan,only reason soloman got it,is because he earned it,for showing his love,and how wise he was..im sure God doubts ever doing it though,for solomon feel into such stupid things like mediums and psychics well let me put it in another way,we can do great things,like magic,we can move mountains,if we have the faith,and so on,but God gives us the power...we trust,fear love,and obey God. Now wiccans,or wicca's don't do that,its a pagan thing,they go to false gods,aka falllen angels,God does not like such things i guess what it leads to,as long as you obey love fear & trust in God,you will be fine. and its like a big thing in muslims lol,if you knew about it,you wouldn't have to bring them up simple answer -.- there is Magic,aka holy spirit,that comes from God. and then there is satans magic,that comes from him. weather most wiccans like it or not,they are worshipping false gods,or praying or chanting. -.- i use to be pagan,i worshiped the greek gods for awhile lol. anyway i don't like the king james,it has been messed with so bad,that its almost like a catholic bible -.-
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:09 am
Judaism
Jewish law views the practice of witchcraft as being laden with idolatry and/or necromancy; both being serious theological and practical offenses in Judaism. According to Traditional Judaism, it is acknowledged that while magic exists, it is forbidden to practice it on the basis that it usually involves the worship of other gods. Rabbis of the Talmud also condemned magic when it produced something other than illusion, giving the example of two men who use magic to pick cucumbers (Sanhedrin 67a). The one who creates the illusion of picking cucumbers should not be condemned, only the one who actually picks the cucumbers through magic. However, some of the Rabbis practiced "magic" themselves. For instance, Rabbah created a person and sent him to Rabbi Zera, and Rabbi Hanina and Rabbi Oshaia studied every Sabbath evening together and created a small calf to eat (Sanhedrin 65b). In these cases, the "magic" was seen more as divine miracles (i.e., coming from God rather than pagan gods) than as witchcraft.
Judaism does make it clear that Jews shall not try to learn about the ways of witches (Deuteronomy/Devarim 18: 9–10) and that witches are to be put to death. (Exodus/Shemot 22:17)
Judaism's most famous reference to a medium is undoubtedly the Witch of Endor whom Saul consults, as recounted in the First Book of Samuel, chapter 28.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:22 am
So as long as you do magic under the premise that it comes from God then it's okay, but if you use your own personal power then it's evil? That sounds kind of oppressive.
Final Jeopardy: What makes your holy book and god any more valid than the countless other holy books and gods?
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:25 am
Obscurus So as long as you do magic under the premise that it comes from God then it's okay, but if you use your own personal power then it's evil? That sounds kind of oppressive. Final Jeopardy: What makes your holy book and god any more valid than the countless other holy books and gods? there is a reason for that hun lol. presses button >_>,my answer will be clear as day,if one reads the Gods word,one will notice on how in the last book,everything it says will happen its happening =/,israel became a nation again,and so many other things it foretold,the old testament spoke of Jesus coming,it happen,there has beens proven facts,that jesus walked the earth,point being,if you read it,and look at the world,you'll see how right it is,atheist think they have the answer,they believe in Science,but little do they know they are only proving Gods work lol,anyway,i don't expect you to take my word,all i can do it offer,if accept then good,if not dust the dirt of my shoes and walk away.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 12:27 pm
ShadowAlexis Obscurus ShadowAlexis jedinightwing ShadowAlexis Signing a contract,deals with satan,=o,oh how satan loves to give you everything you want in this world,but i am willing to bet,the contract,had to do with his life,and maybe even his soul. if i didn't know so much stuff now days,i would be a satanist,but im a christian,not the main stream -_-... but anyway spiritual normally leads to Devil demons satan. wiccans satanist,can tell you all about spirits. just be wise,for they may seem nice,but they can be back stabbers,like a snake,they can be loveble,but they can still turn on you. anyway i hope i was helpful o___o lol hate to break it to you, but Wicca has nothing to do with Satan. Satan, if you do enough research is a Jewish/Christian/Islamic diety. The only reason people tie it to paganism is because Christian Inquisitors would torture pagans until they confessed. for example, if you were tortured, you'd probably confess to something that wasn't true as well. Also, a large number of my friends happen to be Pagan, and I can tell you that absolutely none of them worship "the devil". Also don't tell me to do research lol,wiccans wicca's are witchs..which it says to stay away from =/,that goes for the jews islams christians,and others,not just the christians,and the christians at a certain time,had a bad point,and most christians don't realize,they are a neon pagan religion,which makes it a false religon,the real christians,aren't around as much anymore. but anyway,i know my history If you knew history you would know that the passage that denounces witches in the King James Version of the Bible is actually a mistranslation because King James happened to be afraid of witches. Where does it say that the Jews and Muslims should stay away from witches. A lot of Jewish mysticism borders on what might be considered witchcraft itself. Also, what about the Keys of Solomon? One i don't like the king james verison,and 2 its in the bible. and the keys of solomon were from God,not satan,only reason soloman got it,is because he earned it,for showing his love,and how wise he was..im sure God doubts ever doing it though,for solomon feel into such stupid things like mediums and psychics well let me put it in another way,we can do great things,like magic,we can move mountains,if we have the faith,and so on,but God gives us the power...we trust,fear love,and obey God. Now wiccans,or wicca's don't do that,its a pagan thing,they go to false gods,aka falllen angels,God does not like such things i guess what it leads to,as long as you obey love fear & trust in God,you will be fine. and its like a big thing in muslims lol,if you knew about it,you wouldn't have to bring them up simple answer -.- there is Magic,aka holy spirit,that comes from God. and then there is satans magic,that comes from him. weather most wiccans like it or not,they are worshipping false gods,or praying or chanting. -.- i use to be pagan,i worshiped the greek gods for awhile lol. anyway i don't like the king james,it has been messed with so bad,that its almost like a catholic bible -.- i hate people calling other gods false gods. its so rude and ignorant.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:57 pm
Arcane_Ninja24 ShadowAlexis Obscurus ShadowAlexis jedinightwing ShadowAlexis Signing a contract,deals with satan,=o,oh how satan loves to give you everything you want in this world,but i am willing to bet,the contract,had to do with his life,and maybe even his soul. if i didn't know so much stuff now days,i would be a satanist,but im a christian,not the main stream -_-... but anyway spiritual normally leads to Devil demons satan. wiccans satanist,can tell you all about spirits. just be wise,for they may seem nice,but they can be back stabbers,like a snake,they can be loveble,but they can still turn on you. anyway i hope i was helpful o___o lol hate to break it to you, but Wicca has nothing to do with Satan. Satan, if you do enough research is a Jewish/Christian/Islamic diety. The only reason people tie it to paganism is because Christian Inquisitors would torture pagans until they confessed. for example, if you were tortured, you'd probably confess to something that wasn't true as well. Also, a large number of my friends happen to be Pagan, and I can tell you that absolutely none of them worship "the devil". Also don't tell me to do research lol,wiccans wicca's are witchs..which it says to stay away from =/,that goes for the jews islams christians,and others,not just the christians,and the christians at a certain time,had a bad point,and most christians don't realize,they are a neon pagan religion,which makes it a false religon,the real christians,aren't around as much anymore. but anyway,i know my history If you knew history you would know that the passage that denounces witches in the King James Version of the Bible is actually a mistranslation because King James happened to be afraid of witches. Where does it say that the Jews and Muslims should stay away from witches. A lot of Jewish mysticism borders on what might be considered witchcraft itself. Also, what about the Keys of Solomon? One i don't like the king james verison,and 2 its in the bible. and the keys of solomon were from God,not satan,only reason soloman got it,is because he earned it,for showing his love,and how wise he was..im sure God doubts ever doing it though,for solomon feel into such stupid things like mediums and psychics well let me put it in another way,we can do great things,like magic,we can move mountains,if we have the faith,and so on,but God gives us the power...we trust,fear love,and obey God. Now wiccans,or wicca's don't do that,its a pagan thing,they go to false gods,aka falllen angels,God does not like such things i guess what it leads to,as long as you obey love fear & trust in God,you will be fine. and its like a big thing in muslims lol,if you knew about it,you wouldn't have to bring them up simple answer -.- there is Magic,aka holy spirit,that comes from God. and then there is satans magic,that comes from him. weather most wiccans like it or not,they are worshipping false gods,or praying or chanting. -.- i use to be pagan,i worshiped the greek gods for awhile lol. anyway i don't like the king james,it has been messed with so bad,that its almost like a catholic bible -.- i hate people calling other gods false gods. its so rude and ignorant. well pagan gods are false,due to they are fallen angels,i guess you could call them god,as plato says there is lesser gods,and a surpreme God,the angels would be lesser gods,Yahweh rules heaven. and its not really ignorant,and god,is a title,and title for respect,and how high you are,The angels,are servants,the fallen angels,are outlaws,i respect them yes,but they don't deserve the title god,for they can only do so much. and im sorry for coming on it so rudely lol. my point is,there not the surpreme being ya know? its the same for the greeks there is the gods,then there is the surpreme God Zeus
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:45 pm
ShadowAlexis Obscurus So as long as you do magic under the premise that it comes from God then it's okay, but if you use your own personal power then it's evil? That sounds kind of oppressive. Final Jeopardy: What makes your holy book and god any more valid than the countless other holy books and gods? there is a reason for that hun lol. presses button >_>,my answer will be clear as day,if one reads the Gods word,one will notice on how in the last book,everything it says will happen its happening =/,israel became a nation again,and so many other things it foretold,the old testament spoke of Jesus coming,it happen,there has beens proven facts,that jesus walked the earth,point being,if you read it,and look at the world,you'll see how right it is,atheist think they have the answer,they believe in Science,but little do they know they are only proving Gods work lol,anyway,i don't expect you to take my word,all i can do it offer,if accept then good,if not dust the dirt of my shoes and walk away. There's really nothing in Revelation that's happening aside from Israel, and that's happening because Christians want it to happen because it's written in Revelation. The Bible isn't any more convincing than any other holy text I've ever read. Again, what makes your holy book and god so much more valid than any other? Don't confuse me for an atheist because I'm not. It does get under my skin, however, when someone claims that there way is the one true way but cannot back that up with anything but books that read essentially the same as all the other books, just with different names and places.
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Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:24 pm
Obscurus ShadowAlexis Obscurus So as long as you do magic under the premise that it comes from God then it's okay, but if you use your own personal power then it's evil? That sounds kind of oppressive. Final Jeopardy: What makes your holy book and god any more valid than the countless other holy books and gods? there is a reason for that hun lol. presses button >_>,my answer will be clear as day,if one reads the Gods word,one will notice on how in the last book,everything it says will happen its happening =/,israel became a nation again,and so many other things it foretold,the old testament spoke of Jesus coming,it happen,there has beens proven facts,that jesus walked the earth,point being,if you read it,and look at the world,you'll see how right it is,atheist think they have the answer,they believe in Science,but little do they know they are only proving Gods work lol,anyway,i don't expect you to take my word,all i can do it offer,if accept then good,if not dust the dirt of my shoes and walk away. There's really nothing in Revelation that's happening aside from Israel, and that's happening because Christians want it to happen because it's written in Revelation. The Bible isn't any more convincing than any other holy text I've ever read. Again, what makes your holy book and god so much more valid than any other? Don't confuse me for an atheist because I'm not. It does get under my skin, however, when someone claims that there way is the one true way but cannot back that up with anything but books that read essentially the same as all the other books, just with different names and places. Lol Little fact,all the other religons have some truth in them,the 2nd most cloest one is the greek belief alot of what was told by them will come true,even the bible says it,history will repeat itself. anyway its your choice,=] im not gonna force it,i provide the bread,its up to you to decide to take it or not. i say no more =P okay? lol
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:45 pm
ShadowAlexis Arcane_Ninja24 ShadowAlexis Obscurus ShadowAlexis Also don't tell me to do research lol,wiccans wicca's are witchs..which it says to stay away from =/,that goes for the jews islams christians,and others,not just the christians,and the christians at a certain time,had a bad point,and most christians don't realize,they are a neon pagan religion,which makes it a false religon,the real christians,aren't around as much anymore. but anyway,i know my history If you knew history you would know that the passage that denounces witches in the King James Version of the Bible is actually a mistranslation because King James happened to be afraid of witches. Where does it say that the Jews and Muslims should stay away from witches. A lot of Jewish mysticism borders on what might be considered witchcraft itself. Also, what about the Keys of Solomon? One i don't like the king james verison,and 2 its in the bible. and the keys of solomon were from God,not satan,only reason soloman got it,is because he earned it,for showing his love,and how wise he was..im sure God doubts ever doing it though,for solomon feel into such stupid things like mediums and psychics well let me put it in another way,we can do great things,like magic,we can move mountains,if we have the faith,and so on,but God gives us the power...we trust,fear love,and obey God. Now wiccans,or wicca's don't do that,its a pagan thing,they go to false gods,aka falllen angels,God does not like such things i guess what it leads to,as long as you obey love fear & trust in God,you will be fine. and its like a big thing in muslims lol,if you knew about it,you wouldn't have to bring them up simple answer -.- there is Magic,aka holy spirit,that comes from God. and then there is satans magic,that comes from him. weather most wiccans like it or not,they are worshipping false gods,or praying or chanting. -.- i use to be pagan,i worshiped the greek gods for awhile lol. anyway i don't like the king james,it has been messed with so bad,that its almost like a catholic bible -.- i hate people calling other gods false gods. its so rude and ignorant. well pagan gods are false,due to they are fallen angels,i guess you could call them god,as plato says there is lesser gods,and a surpreme God,the angels would be lesser gods,Yahweh rules heaven. and its not really ignorant,and god,is a title,and title for respect,and how high you are,The angels,are servants,the fallen angels,are outlaws,i respect them yes,but they don't deserve the title god,for they can only do so much. and im sorry for coming on it so rudely lol. my point is,there not the surpreme being ya know? its the same for the greeks there is the gods,then there is the surpreme God Zeus Odin. biggrin
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